Resisting Climate Hysteria

[Glen48]

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/great-global-warming-swindle/
Why temps dropped for 40 years.

 

[Logique]

Are you suggesting that there's been no bushfires until now, because of a trace gas? And humans contribute 3% of this trace gas and you claim as other extremists do that it causes fires?....

The Greens caused larger and hotter, more expensive and ecologically damaging bushfires, by opposing winter time broad area fuel reduction.

Land agencies, having prepared the requisite 50 page environmental study (green tape), conduct a few tiny management burns of a few acres each, all they're game to do. Then they can say, we support fuel management and have an ongoing program.

If this seems fantastic to readers, go and ask any rural fire brigade volunteer in the country, it's common knowledge.

 

[sails]

This is interesting. UN climate scientists pleading for immunity from criminal prosecution - do they know they haven't been truthful? Can't see why else they would be begging for immunity which surely should not be given?

Climate researchers working for the United Nations have issued an astonishing plea for immunity from prosecution. Government-funded personnel sought the ruling on the eve of the latest round of international climate talks scheduled for Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (June 20, 2012).

The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) issued it’s formal request for immunity from prosecution to “protect” researchers who have provided “evidence” supportive of the man-made global warming scare story. The perplexing plea will likely reverberate throughout the general scientific community as further affirmation that many climate scientists were not conducting honest research after all. John Bolton, a former U.S. Ambassador to the UN, questioned the motives, “The creeping expansion of claims for privileges and immunities protection for UN activities is symptomatic of a larger problem.”

Read more: UN Climate Scientists Plead for Immunity from Criminal Prosecution

 

[basilio]

Anyone noticed it's been a bit warm in the US in the past few weeks ? And they havn't reached the normal summer hot spots.

Temperatures records across the country are being broken and rebroken almost daily. And some very colourful maps.

NBC Meteorologist On Record Heat Wave: ‘If We Did Not Have Global Warming, We Wouldn’t See This’

By Joe Romm on Jun 30, 2012 at 11:43 am


It is friggin’ hot!

How hot is it? It’s so hot that all-time records are being set in June: “Nashville has reached its hottest temperature on record…109 degrees at 314 pm. The previous all time record was 107 from July 27th and 28th of 1952.”

UPDATE: Meteorologist Dr. Jeff Masters has more all-time heat records:

109 ° Columbia, SC (old record 107 ° on two previous occasions)
109 ° Cairo, IL (old record 106 ° on 8/9/1930)
108 ° Paducah, KY (ties same on 7/17/1942
106 ° Chattanooga, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952)
105 ° Raleigh, NC (ties same on 8/21/2007 and 8/18/1988)
105 ° Greenville, SC (old record 104 ° 8/10/2007 although 106 ° was recorded by the Signal Service in July 1887)
104 ° Charlotte, NC (ties same on 8/9 and 10/2007 and 9/6/1954)
102 ° Bristol, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952-this site now known as `Tri-State Airport’)
109 ° Athens, GA. This is just 1 ° shy of the Georgia state record for June of 110 ° set at Warrenton in 1959.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...idnt-have-global-warming-we-wouldnt-see-this/

 

[basilio]

And just in case you might think that todays weather in the US is out of the box cast your mind back to...

March 2012 . Like 4 months ago. This is what was happening then.

March Came In Like A Lamb, Went Out Like A Globally Warmed Lion On Steroids Who Smashed 15,000 Heat Records

By Joe Romm on Apr 10, 2012 at 11:49 am

March 2012 Statewide Temperature Ranks Map

It’s official. This was “the warmest March on record” since records began in 1895, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

How hot was it? It was so hot that NOAA reports “there were 15,272 warm temperature records broken (7,755 daytime records, 7,517 nighttime records).”

NOAA released some amazing charts and factoids yesterday:

Hundreds of locations across the country broke their all-time March records. There were 21 instances of the nighttime temperatures being as warm, or warmer, than the existing record daytime temperature for a given date.
A persistent weather pattern led to 25 states east of the Rockies having their warmest March on record. An additional 15 states had monthly temperatures ranking among their ten warmest.
NOAA’s U.S. Climate Extremes Index, an index that tracks the highest 10 percent and lowest 10 percent of extremes in temperature, precipitation, drought and tropical cyclones, was 39 percent, nearly twice the long-term average and the highest value on record for the January-March period [see figure]:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...n-on-steroids-who-smashed-15000-heat-records/

 

[mexican]

Anyone noticed it's been a bit warm in the US in the past few weeks ? And they havn't reached the normal summer hot spots.

Temperatures records across the country are being broken and rebroken almost daily. And some very colourful maps.



http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...idnt-have-global-warming-we-wouldnt-see-this/

Give it up Bas...becoming very boring!!!!

 

[sails]

And record cold in Aus? Or don't you watch Aussie news, Basilio?

So globally temps would most likely be averaging normal!

 

[basilio]

Give it up Bas...becoming very boring!!!!

So it's okay for the rest of the troops to blather on about how nippy it is for a couple of days in Melb/Sydney/ wherever but looking at the US turn into a potato crisp is so boring ? How surprising..

I can't recall the last vaguely logical comment offered by the head in the sand crew on this forum.

 

[OzWaveGuy]

This is interesting. UN climate scientists pleading for immunity from criminal prosecution - do they know they haven't been truthful? Can't see why else they would be begging for immunity which surely should not be given?



Read more: UN Climate Scientists Plead for Immunity from Criminal Prosecution

Hmmm, you think they know about some upcoming legal action? They can beg for immunity all they like - it doesn't matter if the UN provide it or not (I suggest they will get it since the UN IPCC are just as corrupt and have actively falsified or used the very same falsified scientific data). Under international law they can't escape if fraud has been committed as any man/woman/enitiy can seek remedy privately. Although I doubt any such legal action would be undertaken in the private.

Thousands of government sponsored scientists and MPs have actively used the endless list of corrupt data and it's on the record We should soon start to see legal action being brought against many of these people who knowingly participated in the coordinated AGW scam.

I see Basilio is having a hot tantrum again, seems unusually cold everywhere else. Let me warm a bottle....

 

[mexican]

So it's okay for the rest of the troops to blather on about how nippy it is for a couple of days in Melb/Sydney/ wherever but looking at the US turn into a potato crisp is so boring ? How surprising..

I can't recall the last vaguely logical comment offered by the head in the sand crew on this forum.

Can't recall the last logical comment from you Bas.......BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JTLP]

Anyone noticed it's been a bit warm in the US in the past few weeks ? And they havn't reached the normal summer hot spots.

Temperatures records across the country are being broken and rebroken almost daily. And some very colourful maps.



http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...idnt-have-global-warming-we-wouldnt-see-this/

So what was happening in the 30's/40's/50's for these previous highs? The years inbetween experienced no hotter? Seems pretty cyclical to me

PS Isn't the Earth always moving? Maybe it's changing the season timings too...

 

[basilio]

Can't recall the last logical comment from you Bas.......BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then clearly you can't recognise logic can you mate ?

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No problems folks. This has become a totally fact free, feel good place where uncomfortable realities are flicked to the bin and replaced with a Pina Colada in the sun.

Lets talk footy !!

Cheers

 

[sails]

Give it up Bas...becoming very boring!!!!

I think Bas is trying to quickly move past this post of mine...

Climate researchers working for the United Nations have issued an astonishing plea for immunity from prosecution. Government-funded personnel sought the ruling on the eve of the latest round of international climate talks scheduled for Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (June 20, 2012).

The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) issued it’s formal request for immunity from prosecution to “protect” researchers who have provided “evidence” supportive of the man-made global warming scare story. The perplexing plea will likely reverberate throughout the general scientific community as further affirmation that many climate scientists were not conducting honest research after all. John Bolton, a former U.S. Ambassador to the UN, questioned the motives, “The creeping expansion of claims for privileges and immunities protection for UN activities is symptomatic of a larger problem.”

More here: UN Climate Scientists Plead for Immunity from Criminal Prosecution

 

[basilio]

Sails I read that story and a few more posts from that writer.

He has to be the most wilfully stupid, lying piece of rubbish I have seen on the net. (And there is plenty of competition for that spot)

With regard to the issue of lying Climate scientists. It's just ignorant, self serving rubbish. If some of these lying pieces of rubbish actually had any evidence of serious deliberate or systemic errors in the science they would have published it years ago. There is no deception - there is no hoax full stop.

Do you you want to find deliberate, systematic distortion of evidence Sails? I can fill this forum with the omissions and distortions served up by Monckton, Carter and co.

But whats the point ? You want to believe this drivel - go right ahead. It's a free country isn't it ?

 

[sails]

Sails I read that story and a few more posts from that writer.

He has to be the most wilfully stupid, lying piece of rubbish I have seen on the net. (And there is plenty of competition for that spot)

With regard to the issue of lying Climate scientists. It's just ignorant, self serving rubbish. If some of these lying pieces of rubbish actually had any evidence of serious deliberate or systemic errors in the science they would have published it years ago. There is no deception - there is no hoax full stop.

Do you you want to find deliberate, systematic distortion of evidence Sails? I can fill this forum with the omissions and distortions served up by Monckton, Carter and co.

But whats the point ? You want to believe this drivel - go right ahead. It's a free country isn't it ?

Basilio - I have not been given any valid reasons to believe your side of the story. You use words like "denier" against those with whom you do not agree. Insults like that are unnecessary if your science is strong and by using such insults it removes much of your credibility, imo.

And the failed AGW predictions have also weakened your argument. You quote scientists who are on government pay rolls. There can be strong motives for socialist governments to want certain endorsements from scientists. I have often posted links to scientists who have confirmed there is little funding unless you take the government line on AGW.

All these factors have given me doubts about the validity of AGW. It seems it is nothing more than an excuse to milk money from hard working people. And that is shameful, imo.

I hope we still live in a free country. Will be relieved when the libs are back in control even with their imperfections.

 

[basilio]

On reflection I was wrong to pass judgment on the writer of the comment Sails offered.

When I had a look on the web there were scores of mirror websites with just as much bile and dishonesty and it wouldn't be fair to pick out one particular miscreant as the worst. They all try so hard to plumb those depths.

Just thought I'd say that...

 

[basilio]

Sails I have written many, many posts offering the scientific explanations and evidence surrounding AGW. Anyone who cares to spend an hour on the topic can see why the overwhelming numbers of the scientific community are sure that :

1) The earths climate is warming rapidly
2) The main driver of this change in this case is human produced excessive greenhouse gases.

The term denier is now used when it becomes clear that no matter how strong the scientific evidence is the person will refuse to acknowledge it or attempt to distort it. In this forum for example many members will refuse to acknowledge the work of peer reviewed climate scientists full stop. When I put up links that offer clear explanations for the case of AGW they are summarily dismissed as "liars".

But if you have a spare hour or so check it out. The cleanest most accessible document I have found was put together by a group of scientists at the Skeptical science blog.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/docs/Guide_to_Skepticism.pdf

 

[bandicoot76]

The Greens caused larger and hotter, more expensive and ecologically damaging bushfires, by opposing winter time broad area fuel reduction.

Land agencies, having prepared the requisite 50 page environmental study (green tape), conduct a few tiny management burns of a few acres each, all they're game to do. Then they can say, we support fuel management and have an ongoing program.

If this seems fantastic to readers, go and ask any rural fire brigade volunteer in the country, it's common knowledge.

i am a RFS volunteer and i can confirm this post 100%

cheers...the bandicoot

 

[bandicoot76]

And just in case you might think that todays weather in the US is out of the box cast your mind back to...

March 2012 . Like 4 months ago. This is what was happening then.



http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...n-on-steroids-who-smashed-15000-heat-records/

you are a joke, you sneer at "deniers" for their ignorance for thinking that "cold weather" disproves climate change, then trot out exactly the same scenerio "hot weather" as being proof of climate change!

you are either brainwashed or a brainwasher imo.

 

[wayneL]

you are a joke, you sneer at "deniers" for their ignorance for thinking that "cold weather" disproves climate change, then trot out exactly the same scenerio "hot weather" as being proof of climate change!

you are either brainwashed or a brainwasher imo.

After her comments categorizing all except those who 'believe' in the worst case (modelled) scenario as 'deniers', I believe you are dead right.