wayneL
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So lets just go back a few steps to the post targeted.
The extremes of wild weather increasing droughts and millions starving is but a mere repeat of the past in your view.
Well it is not mine,.. and all the huff and puff you like is not going to change the fact that, "Houston we have a problem"
And steps such as the carbon tax, with its many problems will however usher in not only a change of mindset but new innovative ways of making the world a cleaner and better place for future generations.
Oh, right then. How silly of anyone to worry that - in the absence of similar global action - all it will do is render Australia non-competitive as a place to do business, and further stress already stretched households and individuals, many of whom are failing to make ends meet as it is.And steps such as the carbon tax, with its many problems will however usher in not only a change of mindset but new innovative ways of making the world a cleaner and better place for future generations.
Oh it will usher in changes, none of which will be positive for you, or your grandchildren.
Oh, right then. How silly of anyone to worry that - in the absence of similar global action - all it will do is render Australia non-competitive as a place to do business, and further stress already stretched households and individuals, many of whom are failing to make ends meet as it is.
Congratulations on your romantic idealism, explod. Would that you would exchange such nonsense for some realistic appreciation of the actual effect of the carbon tax, which was only legislated as a demonstration of Gillard's obedience to the extreme Greens which are keeping her in power. (Well, so far, probably not for much longer).
Your attitude typifies that of the Greens overall, i.e. a total lack of pragmatic understanding of what is realistically sensible for an economy and therefore the lives of the citizens.
You don't give a stuff for the difficulties in business and for individuals as long as your lofty, romantic nonsense is catered for.
All this in a global environment which is looking more threatened by the day.
And steps such as the carbon tax, with its many problems will however usher in not only a change of mindset but new innovative ways of making the world a cleaner and better place for future generations.
Explod, this is what the Carbon tax will NOT do. Furthermore, you seem to have failed to notice that people have been finding new and innovative ways of making the world a cleaner place for decades - without the benefit of a carbon tax.
I'll tell you something that I noticed, I noticed Dr Zhengrong Shi(Suntech)
http://am.suntech-power.com/about/people.html
Developments in solar technology at the university Of NSW being completely neglected by successive governments and industry in this country from the early 1980s, only to ultimately up sticks and take the whole cabooble to China to become one of the wealthiest people on the planet and is now able to sell his product out the factory gate at a price getting toward the holly grail of $1 /watt. Now you do the calculations on what that actually means, if your capable.
So a company structure, that in form could have resembled Apple or Nokia or Ikea, and could be returning to Australia royalties, Jobs, patients, kudos from advancements developed on our shores is lost to us forever.
If you and others can't connect the dots to a carbon price and something like Suntech, there is no helping you.
But we'll be all-right we can sell rocks.
I'll tell you something that I noticed, I noticed Dr Zhengrong Shi(Suntech)
http://am.suntech-power.com/about/people.html
Developments in solar technology at the university Of NSW being completely neglected by successive governments and industry in this country from the early 1980s, only to ultimately up sticks and take the whole cabooble to China to become one of the wealthiest people on the planet and is now able to sell his product out the factory gate at a price getting toward the holly grail of $1 /watt. Now you do the calculations on what that actually means, if your capable.
So a company structure, that in form could have resembled Apple or Nokia or Ikea, and could be returning to Australia royalties, Jobs, patients, kudos from advancements developed on our shores is lost to us forever.
If you and others can't connect the dots to a carbon price and something like Suntech, there is no helping you.
But we'll be all-right we can sell rocks.
That was more to do with Australia's expensive IR and manufacturing. You think the carbon tax is going to make us more competitive when compared to china then think again.
There was a proposal for a silicon production plant to be built in Tasmania a while ago. The attractions of this location being (1) cheap electricity (2) access to plenty of wood which is also required (3) access to other raw materials. (This proposal was completely separate to the silicon smelter that briefly operated at Electrona during the late 1980's and early 90's).
It never went ahead but I'll let you connect the dots between China's almost total dominance of solar manufacturing, their burning of 50% (and rising) of the world's coal production and why Australia couldn't successfully compete for such an industry even with all the raw materials on the doorstep of the plant. We're just too expensive, and the looming carbon tax and the resultant 60% or so increase in industrial bulk power prices is one of the big reasons why.
Worth a read - for those alarmists with their heads still firmly stuck in the sand....
"100 reasons why climate change is natural"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3-Xviw9PBk&feature=endscreen&NR=1
You don't give a stuff for the difficulties in business and for individuals as long as your lofty, romantic nonsense is catered for.
All this in a global environment which is looking more threatened by the day.
It's a race between laser and plasma induced fusion, with the US and South Korea making big strides. They can already create small scale fusions, now it's just a matter of perfecting repeat cycles.
This is the future, the real future, the real science.
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