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It has been 13 degrees most of the day today. That's winter weather, literally, in the middle of Summer.
Strange question OWG, seeing as the article itself doesn't claim that the signatories are climate scientists, traditional or otherwise. But out of curiosity I took a look. The short version is that 12 are unequivically not climate scientists, three might be under a generous definition, and just one definitely is.
Claude Allegre, former director of the Institute for the Study of the Earth, University of Paris;
Academic field was geochemistry where his work is highly regarded. For the last 20 years he's been at least a part-time politican, reaching the level of Minister for Education. I haven't found a list of his academic publications, but his popular book on climate change is such a muddle of basic factual errors that the kindest excuse is that he was writing outside his field. Climate scientist? Nope.
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Maybe I will, if you would be kind enough to provide the names of some of the "4000 scientists .... at the IPCC" you'd like to know more about. I'm sure you don't expect me to do all your research for you.Would you be kind enough to do the same for the "4000 'scientists' running around in white coats measuring things" at the IPCC?
Monthly December ice extent for 1979 to 2011 shows a decline of 3.5% per decade.
Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center
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December 2011 compared to past years
Arctic sea ice extent for December 2011 was the third lowest in the satellite record. The five lowest December extents in the satellite record have occurred in the past six years. Including the year 2011, the linear rate of decline ice December ice extent over the satellite record is -3.5% per decade.
Is this a localised weather event? or a Climatic trend?
Welcome your inputs.
Get us a graph of the last 2000 years and we will have a better idea.
Monthly December ice extent for 1979 to 2011 shows a decline of 3.5% per decade.
Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center
High Resolution Image
December 2011 compared to past years
Arctic sea ice extent for December 2011 was the third lowest in the satellite record. The five lowest December extents in the satellite record have occurred in the past six years. Including the year 2011, the linear rate of decline ice December ice extent over the satellite record is -3.5% per decade.
Is this a localised weather event? or a Climatic trend?
Welcome your inputs.
And so if 2000 years is the now prerequisite to comment, we'll hear no more piffle about whether it raining today or not.
If on the other hand you choose to look at small sections of the data you can find periods where temperatures are falling or not moving.
Hansen, Trenberth and Gore went to the Antarctic Peninsula to highlight melting ice. The ice there is close to 200% of normal. Will they tell the truth, be silent, or flat out lie about it? http://www.real-science.com/antarctic-peninsula-sea-ice-double-normal
NASA Mission Takes Stock of Earth's Melting Land Ice
PASADENA, Calif. - In the first comprehensive satellite study of its kind, a University of Colorado at Boulder-led team used NASA data to calculate how much Earth's melting land ice is adding to global sea level rise.
Using satellite measurements from the NASA/German Aerospace Center Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE), the researchers measured ice loss in all of Earth's land ice between 2003 and 2010, with particular emphasis on glaciers and ice caps outside of Greenland and Antarctica.
The total global ice mass lost from Greenland, Antarctica and Earth's glaciers and ice caps during the study period was about 4.3 trillion tons (1,000 cubic miles), adding about 0.5 inches (12 millimeters) to global sea level. That's enough ice to cover the United States 1.5 feet (0.5 meters) deep.
"Earth is losing a huge amount of ice to the ocean annually, and these new results will help us answer important questions in terms of both sea rise and how the planet's cold regions are responding to global change," said University of Colorado Boulder physics professor John Wahr, who helped lead the study. "The strength of GRACE is it sees all the mass in the system, even though its resolution is not high enough to allow us to determine separate contributions from each individual glacier."
About a quarter of the average annual ice loss came from glaciers and ice caps outside of Greenland and Antarctica (roughly 148 billion tons, or 39 cubic miles). Ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica and their peripheral ice caps and glaciers averaged 385 billion tons (100 cubic miles) a year. Results of the study will be published online Feb. 8 in the journal Nature.
Chicken Licken was right, the sky really is falling. NASA satellite data has shown that the Earth’s cloud tops have been lowering over the last decade.
Cloud-top height fell 1 percent on average between March 2000 and February 2010, according to measurements from the multi-angle imaging spectroradiometer mounted on NASA’s Terra satellite. That 1 percent means a reduction of 30 to 40 meters in the average maximum height of clouds, during the 00s.
While the short record means it’s difficult to draw any strong conclusions from the data, it does hint towards a longer-term trend. Roger Davies, the lead researcher on the project, warns that it’s something that should be monitored in the coming decades to determine how significant it is for global temperatures.
Thanks Ozzie for bringing the discussion back to the evidence regarding climate change.
With regard to what is happening to our climate in the past 120 years the most complete reference is produced by the American National Climatic Data centre. It pulls together land and sea surface temperatures. You can check out how they obtain their data in the background FAQ
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/anomalies.php
If you go to the url you can see just how much the overall temperature has increased and the very large increases since 1979
Going back to the period you have picked. There are a couple of ways of looking at temperature changes. When seen as a big picture it is clear global temperatures have been rising very quickly in terms of climate changes.
If on the other hand you choose to look at small sections of the data you can find periods where temperatures are falling or not moving.
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With regard to you questions on how the human produced CO2 affects climate and is identified as doing so I'll refer back to the same information we did at least 5 times previously.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-global-warming.html
http://www.skepticalscience.com/10-Indicators-of-a-Human-Fingerprint-on-Climate-Change.html
It is pissing rain here at the moment.
I do not know what the temperature is and care less.
My smalls on the line are soaked.
This has happened before, you jokers on the Climate Hysteria Bandwagon need to proffer proof that we are in for a change.
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