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But you are (and so am IOn a positive note, I've been sort or warm inside during the evenings thanks to a roaring fire. And since I'm burning wood that would otherwise be left to rot, it's not really adding much CO2 to the air.
Their use could be banned to force us on to super expensive over taxed electricity or as the Greens would prefer, to make us shiver in the dark.And best of all, Julia can't really put a tax on firewood when those who sell it aren't exactly known for paying existing taxes as it is...
Genuine moves to reduce chemical pollution and deforestation, and research solar and other forms of energy, that may well prove viable, and more efficient in the future than coal, have likely been seriously set back by the warmanistas time in power here.."
endofpostmodernscience (Reply)
Fri 08 Jul 11 (02:45pm)
A point consistently stated my myself on these boards.
That's what really worries me. We do need viable alternatives to fossil fuels certainly. It's just that we need to develop them before we stop using (or run out of) coal, oil and gas.Genuine moves to reduce chemical pollution and deforestation, and research solar and other forms of energy, that may well prove viable, and more efficient in the future than coal, have likely been seriously set back by the warmanistas time in power here.."
That's what really worries me. We do need viable alternatives to fossil fuels certainly. It's just that we need to develop them before we stop using (or run out of) coal, oil and gas.
I don't think we understand ocean and atmospheric dynamics well enough to use one lot of data in isolation with the rest of the data to completely repudiate all global warming. To do so is being hysterical.
Agree Smurf. I have no problem with using alternative energy, but it seems fool hardy to mess with our major power supply BEFORE reliable and affordable sources have been developed.
But it seems that would be way to sensible for Gillard and her merry men (greens and three indies) to consider.
Nobody repudiates global warming. It is axiomatic.The planet warms, the planet cools, and so it will go on in cycles into infinity. And there is nothing we can do to tweak these cycles.
"And friends you know we must lead because the science says we must and friends we've known that for an awfully long time," “Two decades of denial and delay will come to an end” and "Polluters will have to pay." she said.
"Reading out the figures in a shrill, rapid voice, he proved to them in detail that they had more oats, more hay, more turnips than they had had in Jones's day, that they worked shorter hours, that their drinking water was of better quality, that they lived longer, that a larger proportion of their young ones survived infancy, and that they had more straw in their stalls and suffered less from fleas."
Julia Gillard -
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...-carbon-tax-plan/story-e6frfku9-1226091231059
George Orwell –
Chapter 9 Animal Farm
Anyone but me see the similarity of this garbage we are being fed?
IF there are any undisclosed details left for tomorrow’s carbon tax announcement, taxpayers can be sure Australia’s dirtiest secret, that the government is one of Australia’s largest, growing greenhouse gas emitters, won’t be included.
And the Australian government is going to be exempt from carbon tax?
IMO, that gives a clear message that they don't believe in AGW or that Australia really needs to lead the way like an ant leading a herd of elephants...
Full story here by Tim Wilson: Government’ s carbon skeleton
As a result, the cost of running government will also go up as the carbon tax price increases annually. Considering taxpayers finance government, it doesn’t take sophisticated Treasury modelling to figure out who’ll pay for the federal government’s carbon emissions hypocrisy.
Anyone but me see the similarity of this garbage we are being fed?
+2.+1 !!!!
Originally by trainspotter:
Anyone but me see the similarity of this garbage we are being fed?
George Orwell – Chapter 9 Animal Farm:
"Reading out the figures in a shrill, rapid voice, he proved to them in detail that they had more oats, more hay, more turnips than they had had in Jones's day, that they worked shorter hours, that their drinking water was of better quality, that they lived longer, that a larger proportion of their young ones survived infancy, and that they had more straw in their stalls and suffered less from fleas."
"In any case he [Squealer] had no difficulty in proving to the other animals that they were not in reality short of food, whatever the appearances might be. For the time being, certainly, it had been found necessary to make a readjustment of rations (Squealer always spoke of it as a 'readjustment,' never as a 'reduction'), but in comparison with the days of Jones, the improvement was enormous."
I've been aware of the AGW theory my entire adult life. I've done my own experiments and concluded that it does seem plausible.And the more Gillard tries to ram this down our throats as an excuse for another tax is pushing me further and further the the sceptical side.
I once had an open mind, but all this political propaganda and apparent deceitfulness is enough to make anyone with half a brain believe the whole lot is lies - AGW and carbon tax/ets.
And when most of the cited AGW "scientists" appear to be on government pay rolls, it calls for further caution, imo.
I think Gillard is probably doing a great job at creating extreme cynacism to anything remotely linked to AGW. Too bad if there is some truth in middle ground - I think there is so much rising hostility that even Gillard's AGW excuse is going to get chucked out with the bath water as utter nonsense.
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