Scientists are receiving death threats over their stance on climate change and carbon tax policy
MEMBERS of the scientific community are receiving death threats as debate over Julia Gillard's carbon tax intensifies.
In the latest incident, Federation of Australian Science and Technological Societies executive director Anna-Maria Arabia received an email today saying she would be "strung-up by the neck" and killed for her promotion of mainstream climate science.
The threat was emailed to her this morning before a "Respect the Science" campaign at Parliament House in Canberra today.
It follows months of abusive phone calls and threats to several of Australia's top scientists at the Australian National University, forcing it to improve security and shift climate scientists to a more secure work location.
Talking about losing the plot makes me start to think climate change is real and man made 100%.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...arbon-tax-policy/story-fn59niix-1226078505195
Talking about losing the plot makes me start to think climate change is real and man made 100%.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...arbon-tax-policy/story-fn59niix-1226078505195
It's also possible that it could be from the same side with the other side being blamed for it.It's possible it's one angry person or a small group so no need to get your feathers ruffled...
It's also possible that it could be from the same side with the other side being blamed for it.
All is fair with love and politics, is it not ?
Ah, such machiavellian thinking, drsmith. Perhaps you've missed your calling as a political strategist?It's also possible that it could be from the same side with the other side being blamed for it.
All is fair with love and politics, is it not ?
Explod, if Australia shut down completely, the difference it would make to our climate is miniscule - that is well accepted. The change in our climate is within normal variation anyhow.
We can do all sorts of things to make the world a better place for everyone - no-one denies that. Trying to resist normal fluctuations in climate is not one of them.
Nope ....... that's not what I meant by it at all. I am suggesting in the scheme of things that Australia produces 1.3% of Global CO2 then we are the small fry of the world "polluting" economies.
I believe that as a country of a mere 22 million people we are putting the cart before the horse on this matter. I am not suggesting we wait for USA and China to clean up their act either.
So tell me why is it that all these people have placed solar generators on their roofs and not using the grid anymore PLUS the increase of wind turbine generators that suddenly we are using MORE electricity? (the most "polluting" sector) ALSO since the advent of 6 star enery efficient appliances as well as the EDUCATION of the populace to reduce their carbon footprint as well as a plethora of people who have gone "green" that we still need to puff up our chests and claim we are killing the planet? SURELY this would have had a decreasing effect on consumption??? HUH ????
Don't forget the Pink Batts and the energy efficient lightglobes we all have to have now. Building restrictions on new homes is now at 6 stars as well. Electric cars is another matter altogether. It all adds up !!!!
I am advocating that we continue down a path of a green change by increasing what I have listed above and not a TAX that will change the paradigm of the social system in this great country of ours.
Guess what: Richard Glover frequently uses comic exaggeration in his weekly column, as he did for the piece you refer to. You might not have seen his column the following week?IF, there are extremists on both sides. EG the idiotic Richard Glover suggesting in a newspaper that "deniers" (by his definition) should be forcibly tattooed... and he got to put it in print.
Equally, such extremism could make one think it's all BS.
Nutjobs have nothing to do with science.
You might not think Glover is funny - I don't particularly - but calling him an extremist on this issue is a joke.After 25 years writing this column, I've had my first experience of an internet hate campaign. So far, more than 2400 people, nearly all American, have emailed me. More emails come every time I hit the send/receive button. About 5 per cent contain threats of violence. Even stranger, quite a few threaten me with sexual violence. They say, in various forms, that they want to rape me.
The only good news: quite a few don't seem to know the precise location of Sydney. Or Sidney, as some call it. ''You are so out of touch with America, I cannot believe you are published by an American paper,'' writes one emailer, having read the story on The Sydney Morning Herald website. Quite a few tell me I should be nervous if I ever try to leave Britain.
Here's how it started. Last week, in this spot, I wrote a piece about climate change. It was critical of both the left and the right and contained some comic hyperbole about both: that environmental zealots wanted us all to live in caves and that climate-change deniers should tattoo their beliefs on their bodies so they couldn't later deny their role in preventing action on climate change.
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Then - sometime Sunday night - a link to the piece was put on a right-wing website in the US, offering me up as another communist trying to ruin the world through the ''hoax'' of climate change...
...Suddenly I was the toast of town: about 300,000 people read the piece on smh.com.au between Sunday night and Tuesday morning. I had more readers than anyone else in the Herald. Only problem was: many of them wanted to kill me.
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And, boy, were they upset. TTB, from Nevada, said he had ''a couple of 9mm hollowpoints with your name on them''. Jonathan, of Sag Harbor, NY, wanted to remove my testicles, while DB wanted to remove my penis. And M. Glasgow, in an email sunnily titled ''can't wait to meet you'', observed that: ''I will kill you so dead that your rotting body will do nothing but energise the worms and maggots that will do their part in saving the planet from morons like you.''
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Many use that phrase ''you f---ing commie bastard'', which seems charmingly retro. In others I'm a ''hardcore-Left ideologue and operative''. Stan, in Seattle, on the other hand, has me working for the British royal family: ''A ***** working for the Queen's yellow green paper money''.
And a huge proportion mention Al Gore, who they believe is paying me. So, boss, I need to tell you: they hate you even more than they hate me.
Apparently Gore has bought a beach property (in some emails he's bought two, in others four), thus proving Gore doesn't believe his own lies. Quite a few accuse me (and him) of working for what they call ''the Jews'', and mention several big companies as having financed the hoax.
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And maybe, in a world of international publishing, learn to be clearer. The thing about tattoos was not meant to be taken as a serious suggestion. For those who took it as such, my apologies.
Guess what: Richard Glover frequently uses comic exaggeration in his weekly column, as he did for the piece you refer to. You might not have seen his column the following week?
You might not think Glover is funny - I don't particularly - but calling him an extremist on this issue is a joke.
Guess what: Richard Glover frequently uses comic exaggeration in his weekly column, as he did for the piece you refer to. You might not have seen his column the following week?
You might not think Glover is funny - I don't particularly - but calling him an extremist on this issue is a joke.
The fluctuations are not normal at all.
Climate change does need attention, there are many countries, particularly in Europe getting in to it up to the elbows.
......as a developed nation we can punch above our weight with developing nations. It is about commitment and mindset.
No, we can't "punch above our weight" with developing nations. As I said before, Oz could shut down completely and the difference would be unnoticed. Furthemore, as much of our coal is going to China and India, and will continue to do so, we are contributing to the emissions of developing nations. Our government is very two-faced.
Don't think for a moment that it's beyond the rent-a-crowd professional protestors of the left, they are practised in the art. That guy on Q&A last week ('..why is climate science being taught in schools, it's just a theory like gravity..') - he looked very sus, and I think he was a plant to make out that sceptics don't believe in gravity.Ah, such machiavellian thinking, drsmith.
Don't think for a moment that it's beyond the rent-a-crowd professional protestors of the left, they are practised in the art. That guy on Q&A last week ('..why is climate science being taught in schools, it's just a theory like gravity..') - he looked very sus, and I think he was a plant to make out that sceptics don't believe in gravity.
Intellectually. Having been part of a Research and Development team in a previous life I can assure you Australia is not only the most innovative country in the world but most places recognise it too.
Intellectually. Having been part of a Research and Development team in a previous life I can assure you Australia is not only the most innovative country in the world but most places recognise it too. ...
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