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Religion IS crazy!


But there are more Muslim theocracies now, and they are the problem today.
 
But there are more Muslim theocracies now, and they are the problem today.
I would say the Christian Theocracies are still a problem, because the problem is religion in general.

but what's Islamic theocracies in the ME got to do with the garden variety Aussie battler muslims?
 
but what's Islamic theocracies in the ME got to do with the garden variety Aussie battler muslims?

They follow the same ideology as Islamic theocracies it just happens to be tempered by secular law in Australia, but if the Muslim population gets too large they will try to introduce their own laws and turn us into a theocracy as some have tried already. We can't let that happen.
 
They follow the same ideology as Islamic theocracies

That's my whole point, they don't nessasarily have the same ideology.

Just as the Catholic Church has different ideologies to the prespitarians, and the prespitarians believe different stuff to to the Mormans, and the Mormans think the baptists are crazy, and the southern baptists think the northern baptists are going to hell, and the northern baptists disowned the westborrow baptist church, but the west borrow baptists think the johvah witnesses are going to hell while the pentacostals talk to snakes etc etc etc etc etc

There are over 10,000 different Christian religions and it's the same with Islam, perhaps even more so.
 
That's my whole point, they don't nessasarily have the same ideology.

Well my point is that in Islamic theocracies they follow the same practises of religious punishment to different degrees.

Malaysia might seem 'moderate' but they still cane people for homosexuality, same in Indonesia,and of course in Saudi Arabia women can't even drive a car without being arrested.

Some areas of Britain want to introduce Sharia law, so if you give Muslims an inch they will take a mile. It's best to keep them in a box from the start and not let too many in.
 

I guess where there's money, there's a way. Pretty freaking sad actually.

You reckon they will have the Afghan gov't agreeing to repay the US/Alliance for all military expenses from these copper and other minerals?

Saw a doco years ago, probably "Why we fight", where some historian said Bush Jr.'s admin had the Iraqi gov't agreeing to using its oil export fund to repay all the costs the US put into liberating them (the country, not the oil ).

There's this part in the new Brad Pitt starred War Machine (on Netflix) where the average Afghani farmer could only grow two crops in their region - cotton or poppies. Cotton would compete against US cotton farmers so they have to either grow drugs or die starving.

Yea, it's been a long time. I was practically a kid when 911 happened, then Bushes' march to wars. Was glued to the tv and news for a couple of weeks straight. Hard to believe it's almost 2 decades... and Mad Dog Mattis recently said the new 4000 additional troop deployment "is just the beginning".
 

No, the US didn't go into WWII to save the world from Nazism.

In fact, US planners had already drew up the world where the Nazis control all of Europe/UK and the Soviets. What changed their mind was England somehow managed to survived the initial attacks, got enough troops out of Dunkirk, and Hitler drawing the Soviets against him by attacking it.

Once it appear that England might be able to survive this thing, FDR increased their Lend/Lease programme to help the Brits survive and keep the Nazis occupied a bit.

Some conspiracy theory has it that Churchill knew of Japan's planned attack on Pearl Harbour... and here I am just guessing that the US planners also knew because the cracked all Japan's codes a long long time ago... but let Pearl Harbour happen to draw the US into the war. Without that, the American people wouldn't have wanted to enter the war.

It's this point that many warmongers points to to rationalise pre-emptive strikes. Problem with that theory is that not every warlord is a Hitler. I mean they might be just as nasty as the bastard was, but you need more than nastiness to conquer the world and slaughtering millions.

That and look at the bastards the US props up or befriends with. So wars were never fought for genuinely altruistic reasons. They're rarely fought for defensive reason either. Most are fought for commercial and strategic interests.

So on the world stage, the US went into WWII for dominance, not liberation of Europe or Asia.

Take a smaller example of a similar war that I know of... Communist Vietnam marched over into Cambodia. That ended the Pol Pot regime. But the VC didn't do it to free or liberate the Cambodians as they claimed. They did it because most of the capital was emptied and the comrades thought to finish their ancestors' annexation of all of Cambodia instead of only half.
 
Here is the thing though, in every conflict, both sides believe they are the good guys.

Both sides are willing to commit acts of extreme violence in the name of their cause, because they believe they are right.
I don't think so. Defending oneself or country from an attacker is the alternative to lay down and get killed or owned. It is only natural to defend against attack as all animals do. Not to be right.
 
I don't think so. Defending oneself or country from an attacker is the alternative to lay down and get killed or owned. It is only natural to defend against attack as all animals do. Not to be right.

Do the taliban believe they are the bad guys? Off course not, they believe they are the good guys, they set their Ieds and lay their ambushes believeing they are doing the right honorable thing.

Same with our boys, they conduct their raids and ambushes thinking they are doing the right honorable thing.

Which is correct, well you will get different answers from different people, depending on what that person believes.

The vast majority of people want to do the right thing, and be seen by their peers and community as good people.

However beliefs inform actions, and if your beliefs are flawed, your actions are flawed, religion and faith mess with your beliefs and therefore cause flawed actions.

This can lead a person to believe the right thing to do is to fly a plane into a building, I prefer people to avoid faith based thinking, and instead base their world view on rational thought and reality.
 
"The law also prohibits surgical masks, ski masks, clown make-up, as well as the balaclavas preferred by black block protestors"

So in other words virtually any form of face covering? Ski masks? In Austria?
That's a bit daft considering it'll rarely get above zero degrees there for the next few months.

How soon before we ban the cross because it can be used as a weapon? LOL
 
http://worldstory.co/archaeologists...is-may-prove-that-jesus-never-existed-photos/

 
Televangelist Jim Bakker threatens viewers’ grandkids with eternal damnation unless they buy his pancake mix
Disgraced televangelist Jim Bakker stoked fears of presidential assassination while claiming that their grandchildren of his audience could face eternal damnation unless they call a 1-888 phone number and send him $60 (plus shipping) for a bucket of pancake mix.

“You know, if they kill our president, or they destroy him or whatever,” Bakker worried. “If we elect the other side, I mean they’ve come out against God.”

“I think maybe Trump is here to give us time to get ready, because all hell is going to break loose,” Bakker suggested.

“We’re not going to have the anti-Christ to show up to get the sign of the mark of our beast on our forehead, it won’t happen without hunger,” he claimed.

“Hunger is going to be the main thing. You don’t get it, most people don’t want to get it, but that’s why I’m so obsessed with you all being prepared,” he claimed.

Bakker resigned from his Assemblies of God ministries after facing accusations of drugging and raping an employee. He was convicted of fraud and imprisoned.

 

Much as I can't stand religious charlatans such as Bakker, I certainly did not here him say what is claimed in the above post. He did talk about hunger while at the same time showing an ad for his pancake mix, but that is not quite the same thing.
 
Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse
Children who were sexually abused by Jehovah's Witnesses were allegedly told by the church not to report the crimes.

Victims from across the UK told the BBC they were routinely abused and that the religious organisation's own rules protected perpetrators.

One child abuse lawyer believes there could be thousands of victims across the country who have not come forward because of a "two witness" rule.

A statement from the church said it did not "shield" abusers.


'Bring reproach on Jehovah'
BBC Hereford and Worcester spoke to victims - men and women - from Birmingham, Cheltenham, Leicester, Worcestershire and Glasgow, one of whom waived her right to anonymity.

Louise Palmer, who now lives in Evesham, Worcestershire, was born into the organisation along with her brother Richard Davenport, who started raping her when she was four. He is serving a 10-year prison sentence for the abuse.

The 41-year-old, formerly of Halesowen, West Midlands, said when she told the church of the abuse she was told not to go to police.

"I asked [the organisation], 'what should I do? Do you report it to the police, [or] do I report it to the police'?

"And their words were that they strongly advised me not to go to the police because it would bring reproach on Jehovah."

Another woman, from Worcestershire, said she was sexually abused as a child by a friend of her brother.

She said she told her parents and elders in the congregation what happened and they advised her not to report it.

"It started off just being very cuddly and I was always a very tactile little girl, but it gradually got worse and worse.

"It escalated until... he started raping me."

 
YouTuber who claimed veganism cured her cancer
dies of cancer

Mari Lopez credited veganism and a faith in God as the cure for her breast cancer last year, just months before her breast cancer returned.

In a video posted to YouTube last January titled 'Cancer Transformation FAQ - SEE IMPORTANT UPDATE,' Lopez credited veganism and a faith in God as the cure for her breast cancer, adding, "The lemon-ginger blast helped me remove inflammation from my body." Additionally, Lopez went on a 90-day juice cleanse, which lead to "food withdrawals."

 
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