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I'm not an advocate of organised religion myself and I've certainly had some fun over the years mocking skyfairies, skylords and wotnot, but what I have noticed about anti theists is that they all tend to carry a grudge about the persistence of religions.

Tink comes in for a fair amount of glib cheap shots from the usual suspects and I find that disengenous because if becoming an atheist means getting pleasure from trying to belittle good people's spirituality it's hardly a goal to aspire to. Of course if the religion is a bad one then they followers need their heads read :D
 
Tisme said:
I'm not an advocate of organised religion myself and I've certainly had some fun over the years mocking skyfairies, skylords and wotnot, but what I have noticed about anti theists is that they all tend to carry a grudge about the persistence of religions.

Tink comes in for a fair amount of glib cheap shots from the usual suspects and I find that disengenous because if becoming an atheist means getting pleasure from trying to belittle good people's spirituality it's hardly a goal to aspire to. Of course if the religion is a bad one then they followers need their heads read :D
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Mate, can you stick to the Trump threads please. Your posts in there are bringing me no end of laughter.
 
Darc Knight said:
Mate, can you stick to the Trump threads please. Your posts in there are bringing me no end of laughter.
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Now you're jumping threads! :D You an apprentice of bas or something? I bet your heart is racing at being owned and trying to wriggle out of it by feeble attempts at ridicule

I honestly thought you were smarter than this
 
Tisme said:
Now you're jumping threads! :D You an apprentice of bas or something? I bet your heart is racing at being owned and trying to wriggle out of it by feeble attempts at ridicule

I honestly thought you were smarter than this
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Making friends everywhere you go ey McGee.
 
Tisme said:
Yep. I'm like an itch people like to scratch.

But I still like you Lu, nothing will change my love for you and you oft misunderstood humour.
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Not sure if that's a compliment anymore :D

I'll just excuse you as having friends in the Southern united states and that... affects people. That or you have a very perverse sense of humour, kinda like myself, just less understood.
 
luutzu said:
Not sure if that's a compliment anymore :D

I'll just excuse you as having friends in the Southern united states and that... affects people. That or you have a very perverse sense of humour, kinda like myself, just less understood.
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We're not here to be popular Lu, we here to be right (in all things). ;)
 
Tisme said:
Tink comes in for a fair amount of glib cheap shots from the usual suspects and I find that disengenous because if becoming an atheist means getting pleasure from trying to belittle good people's spirituality it's hardly a goal to aspire to. Of course if the religion is a bad one then they followers need their heads read :D
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I am guilty of this.

My apologises to Tink.
 
Tink said:
Thanks, Tisme and DB.

We have all been contributing to what we see of our own country.

I have said about our Christian heritage, and how our country was established.

Faith, Family, Truth and Freedom.

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As Jordan Peterson says SPEAK.



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Just curious though, how was Australia established and what was Christian about it?

Unless you believe, as the Viets do, that your country was established by, say, a Dragon King and a beautiful Phoenix angel. Laid 100 eggs, each with a different surname (for some reason) who married each other... but then that'd reduced the surnames to 50, not 100... anyway... Unless all the surnames and races were miraculously birthed and love each other, as siblings do... you might not want to be too proud of the way Australia was "discovered" and settled.

I don't read the Bible but from the few quotes of Jesus I've heard over the years... the good man might not concur.

Not saying the current generation should be blamed and such. Just you know... might not be cool with Jesus to point to what happened and say Hell yea! That was awesome.

I mean, there are plenty of things you can point to and be proud of. Anyway...
 
luutzu said:
Just curious though, how was Australia established and what was Christian about it?
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Sending convicts half way around the world away from their families was hardly Christian I suppose.

And the good Christian free men who took those convicts as slaves and lashed them to within an inch of their lives or more were I'm sure doing the word of the Lord. :rolleyes:
 
SirRumpole said:
Sending convicts half way around the world away from their families was hardly Christian I suppose.

And the good Christian free men who took those convicts as slaves and lashed them to within an inch of their lives or more were I'm sure doing the word of the Lord. :rolleyes:
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preparing them for perdition and sending a message to those who would falter not to do so. From my travels it was the French who were the worst offenders of imperial punishment ... they still have the multistory stacked cages in New Orleans as landmarks and Vietnam has a view cell blocks on show.
 
Why wouldn't you do the right thing...??? Crazy


Jehovah’s Witnesses refused to hand over evidence
in sexual abuse case
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Religious sect Jehovah’s Witnesses has refused to hand over documents to the public prosecutor in which an ex-member admits the abuse of a child, also member of the sect at the time, RTL Nieuws reports.

Samet G, now 31, was a minor himself when the abuse of his 4 year-old niece started. The abuse continued until she was 14 and was reported to the police in 2015 when the girl and her mother left the Christian sect.

A court in Breda last week sentenced G to a 9 months suspended sentence and a fine for the abuse but did not have access to the confession, which dates from 2011. G is appealing against his conviction.

Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own internal committees which sit in judgement in cases of sexual abuse and do not involve the police. A record of these proceedings is made and kept.

According to RTL, the public prosecutor’s request for a copy of the confession was refused on the grounds that it would compromise the man’s privacy and that, by law, clergymen, or in this case the elders, cannot be forced to reveal what has been told to them in confidence.

Although there is doubt among lawyers that the Jehovah’s Witnesses elders can claim this right, the public prosecutor accepted the refusal, RTL writes.

The sect also refuses to cooperate in an independent inquiry and, according to minister for legal protection Sander Dekker, it cannot be forced to do so.

Read more at DutchNews.nl:

 
Tink said:
Thanks, Tisme and DB.

We have all been contributing to what we see of our own country.

I have said about our Christian heritage, and how our country was established.

Faith, Family, Truth and Freedom.

----

As Jordan Peterson says SPEAK.



https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/jordan-peterson.33786/page-5
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I noticed you like Augustine from one of the other threads... After I came across some of his writings (City of God, Biblical commentaries), I thought he was quite a special person. Here is a little excerpt from one of his books. He recounts a great miracle in the time of the Roman persecution. A blind man is cured, which changes the dynamic for everyone(4th century, exhilarating stuff):

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Not long had the Church of Milan begun to use this kind of consolation and exhortation, the brethren zealously joining with harmony of voice and hearts. For it was a year, or not much more, that Justina, mother to the Emperor Valentinian, a child, persecuted Thy servant Ambrose, in favour of her heresy, to which she was seduced by the Arians. The devout people kept watch in the Church, ready to die with their Bishop Thy servant. There my mother Thy handmaid, bearing a chief part of those anxieties and watchings, lived for prayer. We, yet unwarmed by the heat of Thy Spirit, still were stirred up by the sight of the amazed and disquieted city. Then it was first instituted that after the manner of the Eastern Churches, Hymns and Psalms should be sung, lest the people should wax faint through the tediousness of sorrow: and from that day to this the custom is retained, divers (yea, almost all) Thy congregations, throughout other parts of the world following herein.

Then didst Thou by a vision discover to Thy forenamed Bishop (Ambrose) where the bodies of Gervasius and Protasius the martyrs lay hid (whom Thou hadst in Thy secret treasury stored uncorrupted so many years), whence Thou mightest seasonably produce them to repress the fury of a woman, but an Empress. For when they were discovered and dug up, and with due honour translated to the Ambrosian Basilica, not only they who were vexed with unclean spirits (the devils confessing themselves) were cured, but a certain man who had for many years been blind, a citizen, and well known to the city, asking and hearing the reason of the people's confused joy, sprang forth desiring his guide to lead him thither. Led thither, he begged to be allowed to touch with his handkerchief the bier of Thy saints, whose death is precious in Thy sight. Which when he had done, and put to his eyes, they were forthwith opened. Thence did the fame spread, thence Thy praises glowed, shone; thence the mind of that enemy, though not turned to the soundness of believing, was yet turned back from her fury of persecuting. Thanks to Thee, O my God. Whence and whither hast Thou thus led my remembrance, that I should confess these things also unto Thee? which great though they be, I had passed by in forgetfulness. And yet then, when the odour of Thy ointments was so fragrant, did we not run after Thee. Therefore did I more weep among the singing of Thy Hymns, formerly sighing after Thee, and at length breathing in Thee, as far as the breath may enter into this our house of grass.
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Pastor claims that you are robbing God if you are not donating 10%, even if you are in debt

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