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Value Collector said:
Yeah as I said they are killed, just like beef cattle, so the dairy industry isn’t lower harm than he meat industry, it’s actually worse, because it had the same level of killing, but it has extra stress on the animals.
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The young males are still castrated into steers rather than killed. One of the old fellas (79) I socialise with keeps 800 head and is till handy with his knife.
 
Tisme said:
The young males are still castrated into steers rather than killed. One of the old fellas (79) I socialise with keeps 800 head and is till handy with his knife.
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Thats beef cattle, not dairy, male dairy calves do not grow fast enough or large enough to be worth while to be raised for meat, So as it shows in the video I posted, they are shot.

But, in the case of steers, I still don't think castrating an animal, then eventually sending it off to slaughter is a moral way of treating it, especially when its also bad for the environment and we have alternatives.


Take a look at how these "Waste products" are treated, they deserve better.

 
Value Collector said:
Last post Here,

But can you see why I see Milk and eggs as being just as bad, if not worse than eating the meat?
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What you have brought out here has got me thinking, I'll admit that.

Most of my dietary decisions concern my own health needs but certainly there is a lot of room for improvement in the food processing industry in regards to animal welfare.
 
explod said:
Many top athletes, particularly short distance runners and weight lifters are vegans. It does take a bit of research and sorting but a focus towards nuts and beans is a good start. Animals in the field of course love grain, hence flour and rice. I've also moved away from the strict three meals a day time lines and graze throughout the day. Often wake around 3am and have a herbal tea and dry biscuit. In antiquity (before lights) when we went to bed with the sun the nights were long so its in our makeup for this rise for awhile in the night.
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Can you name these athletes?
 
Value Collector said:
There is a new documentary about vegan athletes called "the game changers"

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So they are relying on the diet from before as the foundation for their change?

Do vegans have to use processed supplements and fortified foods to augment their diet?
 
Tisme said:
So they are relying on the diet from before as the foundation for their change?

Do vegans have to use processed supplements and fortified foods to augment their diet?
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No go over and watch that video of the vegan weight lifters in the other thread, one of them has been meat free since being a child.
 
Tisme said:
Do vegans have to use processed supplements and fortified foods to augment their diet?
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Actually the average meat eater is more deficient that the average vegan.

the only vitamin not available to vegans is B12, but that can be gained through fortified food or a supplement.
 
Is This an Angel? Pastor, Michigan Neighbors Say 'Yes'

https://www.christianpost.com/amp/i...ors-say-yes-223985/?__twitter_impression=true

"It was really clear to me the minute I looked at the photo, I just kind of freaked out a bit," Moes said. "I went like 'Whoa! That's an angel!' And I texted him back, 'That's an angel.' There wasn't any doubt in my mind that we were looking at something supernatural."

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"We have studied the photo from all possibilities. This 'Being' is behind the truck with translucent wings.



I suppose all possibilities does not include it being an out-of-focus moth attracted by the lights of the security camera.
 
B.C. couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as their lawyer
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A B.C. couple whose religious views are too extreme even for churches and pastors and put them at odds with family, doctors, social workers and anyone else trying to help them with their daughter, have lost their battle for custody of her.

The unusual child custody trial featured the couple speaking in tongues to a stuffed animal they said transmitted the word of God directly to them and refusing legal assistance because Jesus Christ — through the stuffed lion — was their lawyer, witness and judge.

In November, when the girl was one, the Provincial Court of British Columbia formally declared she was in need of protection and placed her in provincial custody, a decision the parents appealed to the B.C. Supreme Court. The parents claimed the judge violated their Charter rights, discriminated against them as Christians and made procedural errors.

Both parents were raised in Christian homes, she in Ontario and he in B.C., but strayed from their roots until reconnecting with their beliefs as adults. They met in 2014 and shared a mutual interest in their own emerging view of the Christian faith and were privately married a year later, court heard.


 
I think this Tweet sums it up....

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DB008 said:
I think this Tweet sums it up....



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Actually the stuff on giants doesn't come across like a fairy-tale. It's also in Jewish tradition and archaeology. And there's incredible structures around the planet that were supposed to have been built by them, something like that anyway. They were around the land of of Israel before the Israelite came 1000s of years ago. Devastating in war...
 
Ultra-Orthodox men again hold up plane, refusing to sit beside women
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Captain of Austrian Airlines flight to Vienna forced to intervene, asks women to move; plane arrives over an hour late; MK Lapid calls to remove such passengers immediately

A week after an El Al flight was delayed by ultra-Orthodox men’s refusal to sit beside women, another flight ran behind schedule Friday morning under similar circumstances.

The Austrian Airlines plane left Ben Gurion Airport 40 minutes late due to the refusal of 26 ultra-Orthodox men to be seated by women, passengers said. The flight eventually arrived in Vienna over an hour behind schedule, as its late arrival forced it to wait for landing clearance in the busy morning skies.

The plane’s late arrival reportedly caused multiple passengers to miss their connections in Vienna.


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If these idiots made me miss my connection, l'd have steam coming out of my ears. Muppets!
 
SirRumpole said:
Gentlemen, this thread is about religion, there is another for veganism et al.
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Actually the more I talk to people the more I have realised the "Meat eating cult" is very much a religion, With their own Myths and Comforting stories, and there are different branches within the religion, with different cultures, They all find different meats edible while finding others disgusting.

The reasoning about which meats are considered moral to eat and which aren't vary depending which meat eating culture you were raised in.

Meat eating religion explained.

 
Value Collector said:
Actually the more I talk to people the more I have realised the "Meat eating cult" is very much a religion, With their own Myths and Comforting stories, and there are different branches within the religion, with different cultures, They all find different meats edible while finding others disgusting.

The reasoning about which meats are considered moral to eat and which aren't vary depending which meat eating culture you were raised in.

Meat eating religion explained.

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Interesting.
 
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