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SirRumpole said:
What we are both talking about surely is extremism. .
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Yes, but it takes something create extreme views, fear of a god based on scriptures you have read or had interpreted by preachers for you can lead to extremism, craving political power can lead to extremism as can many things, But a simple disbelief in god can't.

It's pretty obvious to me that extremism implies intolerance and its also apparent to me that either a religious person or an anti religious person is capable of it in fairly equal measure
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Offcourse, but all I am saying its not the atheism that causes it, you don't even have to be atheist to be antitheist, you can be a deist such as yourself and still want to get rid of organised religion.


for example, pretty much all my life I have been an atheist, but it wasn't until later in life that took on some anti religion opinions, it wasn't because of my atheism, it was because I saw the divisions religion makes in society and how it pulled us into the longest war in our history, looking deeper I saw negative effects of religion everywhere, these negative effects are why I am against religion.
 
SirRumpole said:
What we are both talking about surely is extremism. It's pretty obvious to me that extremism implies intolerance and its also apparent to me that either a religious person or an anti religious person is capable of it in fairly equal measure.
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Dawkins and his blind faith followers are reminiscent of school children when they discover they have a fundamental argumentative streak ... they like the sound of their own voice and want everyone to know it. He's that loud girl with tight pigtails who tries to organise the playground into a tessellated canvas of child activities.

Dawkins can't grasp the concept that the world is what it is because of what it is and he does not possess a third eye nor crystal ball to back his assumpton that we will all be better off without skyfairies.

Gets his mooche on telly though, which I suspect is his main aim in life; for fame and wealth
 
Tisme said:
Yeah but why did the low life have to pick now to vandalise civilisation? Did they think of my discomfort .... obviously not. the selfish bug9ers.;)

It would be brave person not to agree we (western democracies) really do enjoy the fruits of the past and there might have been 10k years leading up to the 17th century, but the exponential acceleration since England embraced/developed/invented large scale mechanisation, factories and commerce has been amazing .....when I think of those pointy heads who said we had stalled in the 1970's :eek:
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Yea me too. Just about to launch my life's work and there are signs of world war 3 starting. Some people only think of themselves.

Yea Western Civilisation is pretty good and getting better - just got a logistic and distribution problem.
 
Interesting interview on the Neo-Con and the religion of modern economic theories.

Killed more people and ruin more lives than probably all other heavenly religion combined.


 
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Moscow Court Bans Church of Scientology​


A court in Moscow has banned the local branch of the Church of Scientology, a RIA Novosti correspondent reported from the courtroom Monday.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – During the inspection the Russian Ministry of Justice found out that the word 'scientology' had been registered as a trade mark owned by the US Religious Technology Center.

The court backed the Russian Justice Ministry's claim that the organization's activity did not comply with the federal law on freedom of religion.

The Church was founded by American science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard in the 1950s, and has been the subject of controversy around the world.

The e-meter device used by the Church of Scientology purports to measure, among other things, the number of "body thetans" present in an individual, which are the souls of aliens brought to planet Earth 75 million years ago, according to Scientology doctrine.
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Autism: Potentially lethal bleach 'cure' feared to have spread to Britain​

Exclusive: Combination of sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid is being touted as a cure by US-based Genesis II Church.

Police have been urged to investigate the first suspected UK case of a parent giving their child industrial strength bleach as a “cure” for autism.

Thames Valley officers have received a complaint that a young mother was using doses of MMS or “Miracle Mineral Solution” on her young son who has autism.

MMS involves giving children two chemicals – sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid – which combine to form bleach. It is usually sold to be taken orally, but parents are also told to use it as an enema. The potentially lethal mixture is being touted as a cure for autism, cancer, HIV, malaria and Alzheimer’s by the US-based Genesis II Church.

The organisation, which describes itself as “non-religious church of health and healing”, claims MMS is no different from giving sacrament in church services. Medical experts have rubbished the healing claims made for the product.

The cure has already been linked to one death and there are several reported cases of those taking it suffering serious injuries. It was banned in Canada after it caused a life-threatening reaction in an elderly man. The US Food and Drug Administration warns that the product “used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health”.
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Is this the future? Non religious organisations with belief systems, now we have this one (Genesis II Church) along with the scientologists. Does this organisation beling in the Religion is Crazy thread or do we need to start a non-religious is crazy and put in this organisation?

We are unique because we were formed to serve mankind. We are non-religious in nature because we serve mankind, as opposed to worshiping a deity. Many people believe that the word, “Church” can only be associated with Christians. This is the secular definition the world has given it since the first century. However, in reality the word “church” came from the Greek word, “ekklesia”, which means, “a called out assembly” or “an assembly called out for a specific purpose.”


http://genesis2church.is/our-beliefs
 
Knobby22 said:
Is this the future? Non religious organisations with belief systems, now we have this one (Genesis II Church) along with the scientologists. Does this organisation beling in the Religion is Crazy thread or do we need to start a non-religious is crazy and put in this organisation?

We are unique because we were formed to serve mankind. We are non-religious in nature because we serve mankind, as opposed to worshiping a deity. Many people believe that the word, “Church” can only be associated with Christians. This is the secular definition the world has given it since the first century. However, in reality the word “church” came from the Greek word, “ekklesia”, which means, “a called out assembly” or “an assembly called out for a specific purpose.”


http://genesis2church.is/our-beliefs
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Church = Ekklesia, it's so obvious when you think about it.:D


I'm guessing they are drawing a long straw with "ecclesiastical = church". Solomon might have something to say about that word
 
dutchie said:
Saudi Arabia sentences maid to death by stoning for adultery - but the man she slept with will escape with 100 lashes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-adultery-man-slept-escape-100-lashes.html


And this country is judging our human rights record.

What a joke. The UN is a joke.
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Saudi Arabia is a joke of a country. Their version of Islam (wahhabism) is extreme. They are insecure.

Ashraf Fayadh: Saudi Arabia to 'sue' Twitter user describing Palestinian poet's death sentence as 'Isis-like'​

Saudi Arabia will sue any Twitter user who compares the Kingdom’s recent decision to execute a poet to punishments handed down by Isis.

Ashraf Fayadh, a 35-year-old Palestinian poet, was sentenced to death for apostasy – renouncing one’s faith – by a court in Abha on 17 November, according to documents seen by Human Rights Watch.

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What a bunch of idiots. Can't wait for battery technology to get off the ground, oil price to drop like a lead anchor (or stay low), so we can leave these barbaric nutters back where they belong - 1000 B.C.

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DB008 said:
Saudi Arabia is a joke of a country. Their version of Islam (wahhabism) is extreme. They are insecure.



What a bunch of idiots. Can't wait for battery technology to get off the ground, oil price to drop like a lead anchor (or stay low), so we can leave these barbaric nutters back where they belong - 1000 B.C.
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I was agreeing with you there until the "...can't wait for battery..." so we can get away from them bit. :D Well, I do agree with that too but yea, it's funny.

Kinda like a guy going to a ***** house, getting on with his business but swearing at the prostitute while he's doing it. Dam *****, screwing every man that comes by; dirty filthy thing... oh yea... dam it, can't wait until I get married... scratch that, marriage mean no sex anyway... can't wait until I hit the jackpot then won't have to come here anymore.
 
luutzu said:
Yea I know. Was just echoing general public perception others experience or perceive to be the case :D
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Well, in my real world experience, there has been no difference in sex life before/after marriage. Others may disagree....
 
DB008 said:
Well, in my real world experience, there has been no difference in sex life before/after marriage. Others may disagree....
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So you were abstinent before marriage then? That or have yet to have kids and are trying very hard to have one. That or you could make a lot of money selling your secrets, to other people of course.
 
Islamic P.C. Brigade out in force.

Check out these idiots.....


Newspaper draws piggy bank to show ISIS funding, Muslim groups attack it as pig is “unislamic”​

Mumbai. Offices of the Marathi newspaper Lokmat witnessed angry protests on Sunday by outraged Muslims who claimed that the newspaper had insulted their faith by publishing a blasphemous picture.

Copies of the newspaper were burnt at various cities in Maharashtra and the protesting men demanded arrest of the editor and the artist who drew the illustration. A couple of offices are reported to have been attacked too, as the editor extended an immediate apology.

According to reports, such protests were held at various cities such as Malegaon, Dhule, Nandurbar, etc. in Maharashtra and a campaign – in various cities as well as on the social media – is on to boycott the newspaper.

To keep the situation in control, the police has registered cases against the editor and the writer of the article at Aurangabad, Jalna, Pune, Jalgaon, Parbhani and Yavatmal.

The Muslim groups were angry after they found an article published in the Sunday edition of the newspaper. The article explained how the ISIS – the terror group currently ruling parts of Syria and Iraq, and which claimed responsibility for the recent Paris attacks – was receiving money to fund their operations.

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I think there is confusion on where the line between peoples rights to practice their religion and other peoples rights to be free of religion.

Every one in Australia has the right to have and practice a religion, but everyone also has the right to be free of religion.

So people can go to church send their children to Sunday school, pray , read their texts etc etc. this is their right.

they can not however, in their position as a school teacher lead their class in prayor, as this is an infringement on the students rights to be free of religion.

Religious students can carryout whatever private observance they need to, but the other students should not be forced to do this.

there is plenty of time for the religious students to get religious teachings at home, at church etc

So it is not a contradiction for a liberal on one hand to resist Christian teachings in schools, while also defending an Islamic groups right to build a mosque or where a hijab.
 
Value Collector said:
So people can go to church send their children to Sunday school, pray , read their texts etc etc. this is their right.
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they can not however, in their position as a school teacher lead their class in prayor, as this is an infringement on the students rights to be free of religion.

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So what do you say about parents who send their children to religious schools knowing that their children will be subject to religious teachings ?

If freedom from religion should be a right, shouldn't that apply to children as well ?

Do we ban all religious schools (personally I would not object to this), but I doubt if that would get past the Constitution in regards to freedom of religion.
 
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