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Well as I said a while back, mining nickel will be getting marginal and it wont be long before mines go back on care and maintenance.
The real question will be, how long before BHP puts its Nickel West operations on care and maintenance, then the manure really hits the fan.
So much for the World going "clean and green" and paying us a premium for our 'clean' nickel over 'dirty' nickel, just another example in the long line of examples where ideology is being overtaken by reality.
The land of wokeopia, is starting to feel the effects of having a third world economy and a first world lifestyle, do we really think China cares whether they get "clean" product or dirty product.
I mean really?
Spare a thought for all the investors who bought recently into the Kambalda property market, when I was there at Christmas every for sale advert in the real estate window had sold on it, I hope they weren't eastern States investors buying into the dream.
https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/forrest-shuts-wa-mines-as-nickel-dominoes-tumble-20240121-p5eyvo#:~:text=The mines near Kambalda will,China-backed operations in Indonesia.
Billionaire Andrew Forrest is shutting the West Australian nickel mines his private company, Wyloo, bought for $760 million six months ago, bowing to the supply glut that has crashed nickel prices and triggered the loss of around 1000 jobs across WA.
The mines near Kambalda will go into care and maintenance from May 31 amid a steep decline in nickel prices that Australia’s producers have blamed on a glut from China-backed operations in Indonesia.
Yep, the "Market Bifurcation" crowd just got a reality check.So much for the World going "clean and green" and paying us a premium for our 'clean' nickel over 'dirty' nickel, just another example in the long line of examples where ideology is being overtaken by reality.
The land of wokeopia, is starting to feel the effects of having a third world economy and a first world lifestyle, do we really think China cares whether they get "clean" product or dirty product.
I mean really?
That's if the downturn stays limited to battery materials, it is all starting to look orchestrated to me, hopefully not.Yep, the "Market Bifurcation" crowd just got a reality check.
Tough times for nickel, AF must be thinking never again on the nickel front.
Industry downturns are brutal for most participants. With the Nickel and lithium disasters the WA labour shortages in mining may ease.
That's if the downturn stays limited to battery materials, it is all starting to look orchestrated to me, hopefully not.
Who knows, but it wouldn't be the first time, coal and wine spring to mind in recent history.China conspiracy?
So cheap coal power, ore you have to process domestically and whole supply chain..exactly what Australia does not have...What? You mean like this.
Indonesian government said on Tuesday there was a strong indication of a safety procedure violation that led to a fire at a nickel smelter on Sulawesi island that killed 21 workers.
A fire broke out on Dec. 24 at a furnace in a smelter operated by Tsingshan Stainless Steel Indonesia, located in the country’s largest nickel hub, the Indonesia Morowali Industrial Park (IMIP).
Indonesia Morowali Industrial Park (IMIP)
Commencing construction in 2013, Tsingshan has now established industry recognised infrastructure and operational facilities at the IMIP.nickelindustries.com
The development of the IMIP and its competitive operational cost structure is underpinned by several factors:
- The ability to source an abundance of higher grade (>1.8% nickel grade) nickel ore which is now restricted from export from Indonesia as a result of the Indonesian Government’s ban on the exportation of unprocessed nickel ore under a grade of 4% nickel.
- The generation of competitive electricity costs by the IMIP’s purpose-built 1.26GW power plant which is powered by domestically sourced thermal coal.
- The vertically integrated nature of operations within the IMIP to produce a stainless steel end product, utilising the key raw material inputs, including nickel ore and power.
Australia holds a unique position in the global supply chain for the critical minerals market
I can't hear you through all the noise of; cost of living crisis, housing crisis and anti semitic hoards. Can you please repeat that?It does not.
We simply dig it up, the country is not set up to exploit the downstream value chain.
Our near neighbour to the north is an example of what is possible, its not as if he had not made his ambition known to all and sundry for a couple of years now.....
It does not.
We simply dig it up, the country is not set up to exploit the downstream value chain.
Our near neighbour to the north is an example of what is possible, its not as if he had not made his ambition known to all and sundry for a couple of years now.....
I assumed it was always just a pun for that unfairly maligned band.Title of Thread : Nickel is Back
Could someone please let me know when the title of this thread is imminent and what stocks in which I should invest.
My plan is to make so much moolah from investing in nickel, dirty energy and mining that I can afford to appear at the top table with knuckleheads like King and Rudd, attend DAVOS and generally fart about giving other people advice on how they should live their life.
I repeat :
Could someone please let me know when the title of this thread is immenent and what stocks in which I should invest.
gg
Well it looks like we will be selling Bintang and T Shirts, when we get enough people to man the deck chairs.
So much for our 'green' battery materials eh, we really do need a reality check, before we kill ourselves with smugness.
Feb 2024
Indonesia’s Electric Battery Industrial Strategy
Indonesia's ambitious targets in the electric battery industry offer a prime opportunity for strategic investments and partnerships.www.aseanbriefing.com
Electric vehicle batteries supply chain
Global EV makers, which include US’s Tesla and China’s BYD, are said to be finalizing deals to invest in Indonesia. Moreover, to complement its nickel-based battery industry, the country is also developing lithium refineries and anode material production facilities.
2023
• Indonesian company Aneka Tambang and Hong Kong CBL Limited sign a conditional share purchase agreement for the partial ownership of Aneka’s nickel mine in North Maluku province.
• German company BASF, French mining group Eramet, and auto producer Volkswagen have stated that they will invest in Indonesia’s EV ecosystem.
• BASF plans to invest US$2.6 billion to develop a car battery plant in North Maluku province.
• Indonesia will grant incentives to EV makers that plan to open EV plants – based on their imports
of completely built-up EVs until 2025. As such, the new rules will remove import duties and luxury goods tax on EV vehicles brought into the country.
2024
• Chinese EV producer BYD plans to build a production facility in Indonesia in 2024. The company also launched three car models in the Indonesian market.
• BYD’s investment is expected to reach US$1.5 billion with a production capacity of 150,000 units per year.
• Hyundai and LG’s joint venture to build a lithium battery plant in Indonesia is expected to begin
production in 2024. The plant is expected to have a production capacity of 10 GWh of battery cells.
• Chinese EV producer Neta, will begin production of completely knocked-down (CKD) EV cars in Indonesia in 2024.
• Vietnamese EV maker, VinFast, announced that it would invest US$1.2 billion to build an EV manufacturing facility in Indonesia.
• Vale Indonesia and China’s Zhejiang Huayou Cobalt sign an agreement with Ford Motor to build a hydroxide precipitate (MHP) plant in Southeast Sulawesi province. The plant will have a capacity to produce 120,000 tons of hydroxide precipitate. Vale Indonesia and Zhejiang Huayou Cobalt have also agreed to build a second MHP plant with a 60,000-ton capacity.
Title of Thread : Nickel is Back
Could someone please let me know when the title of this thread is imminent and what stocks in which I should invest.
My plan is to make so much moolah from investing in nickel, dirty energy and mining that I can afford to appear at the top table with knuckleheads like King and Rudd, attend DAVOS and generally fart about giving other people advice on how they should live their life.
I repeat :
Could someone please let me know when the title of this thread is immenent and what stocks in which I should invest.
gg
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