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As you will have heard, Cheatle has resigned for health reasons after being sandblasted at the Capitol Hill hearings yesterday. Sources say she is booked in for facial reconstruction at a Swiss clinic.

 
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If this isn't a prank, it's an interesting development. Authorities are scrubbing history and blaming maga.

 
Here's what some of Donald's ex employee's had to say about their experience under Trump.

1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”
2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His first secretary of defense, James Mattis: “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people – does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”

4. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

5. His chairman of the joint chiefs, retired Gen. Mark Milley, seemed to invoke Trump: “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”

6. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this
7. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

8. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

9. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”
10. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

11. His second chief of staff, John Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

12. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”
13. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

14. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

15. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

16. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

17. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”
18. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

19. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

20. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

21. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

22. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part of this madness.”
23. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

24. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”
 
IFocus said:
Here's what some of Donald's ex employee's had to say about their experience under Trump.

1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”
2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His first secretary of defense, James Mattis: “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people – does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”

4. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

5. His chairman of the joint chiefs, retired Gen. Mark Milley, seemed to invoke Trump: “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”

6. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this
7. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

8. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

9. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”
10. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

11. His second chief of staff, John Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

12. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”
13. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

14. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

15. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

16. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

17. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”
18. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

19. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

20. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

21. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

22. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part of this madness.”
23. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

24. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”
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That's all very well I Focus. But where is the balance ? Surely there must be someone who served under Trump who can shine a light on his personal skills, political insight and strategic genius ? Surely...

After all it is impossible to believe that all the current Republicans in Congress and The Senate would support such a seriously unfit person to be given unlimited power as President of the United States.

And what is the source please ? I can't imagine you have kept a running tally of this people.

In any case that was then and in Trumps next administration one can be far more confident that no one will ever dispute anything the President says, does, thinks about saying or "would like to happen if someone could just do it NOW"
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Found the source. Clearly totally unreliable. :laugh:


There is a long list of one-time allies and aides who have either turned against former President Donald Trump or whom he has turned against.
No person in US politics – certainly no recent president – has such an expansive list of high-profile allies turned enemies.
His longest-serving White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, delivered an incredible rebuke of Trump’s personality and leadership in an on-the-record statement to CNN’s Jake Tapper.

Given that Trump is the front-runner for the GOP nomination in 2024 and simultaneously facing multiple criminal cases, both the campaign and the court proceedings could prompt additional people to speak out.

What’s below is not meant to be an exhaustive list, but rather a catalog of the most notable turns by former aides and top officials whom Trump at one point chose to work for him at the White House. Some are now actively working against him. Three are running against him in the presidential primary. Others have stayed relatively quiet after resigning in protest. The link at each name includes more context.
 
This story also goes into detail about Trumps attitude to men and women who fought for their country.

Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump ​


By Jake Tapper, Anchor and Chief Washington Correspondent

7 minute read

Updated 8:52 AM EDT, Tue October 3, 2023

John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”
 
basilio said:
That's all very well I Focus. But where is the balance ? Surely there must be someone who served under Trump who can shine a light on his personal skills, political insight and strategic genius ? Surely...
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You will struggle to find any ex staff of trump who will speak kindly of him.
Working for a narcissist will never be easy.
Almost as difficult as working for a dementia addled geriatric.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
You will struggle to find any ex staff of trump who will speak kindly of him.
Working for a narcissist will never be easy.
Almost as difficult as working for a dementia addled geriatric.
Mick
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The laughing hyena seems to have trouble keeping staff also
 
mullokintyre said:
You will struggle to find any ex staff of trump who will speak kindly of him.
Working for a narcissist will never be easy.
Almost as difficult as working for a dementia addled geriatric.
Mick
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Why not find me any ex Biden staff who will say anything a potent as the scores of ex Trump staff who swear he should never be allowed near the White House again for a whole range of hair raising reasons. And narcissist is almost certainly Trumps best quality.

Biden was the right person to beat Trump in 2020 and pull together an administration and policy platform that has re energised the USA.
Kamela Harris is the right person to beat Trump and the Republicians to a pulp in the 2024 election, consolidate the work of the Biden government and thwart the Trump led authoritarian extremists.
 
John Kelly? Loathe as I am to source the NYT it was the first thing to come up when looking for John Kelly. Trump stepped on quite a few toes. I'm fairly sure he would've fired me if I were White House janitor as I would've been a slacker. High functioning government needs a balance of ethical ruthlessness and loyalty I would venture to say. Otherwise you have an ossified arthritic government of Nancy, Chuck and Joe types. There aren't many humble souls operating at high levels of politics and John Kelly is probably a vengeful little man these days who places his ego before the national good.
And Jake Tapper, well you know that's going to be a CNN hit piece.
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finicky said:
John Kelly? Loathe as I am to source the NYT it was the first thing to come up when looking for John Kelly. Trump stepped on quite a few toes. I'm fairly sure he would've fired me if I were White House janitor as I would've been a slacker. High functioning government needs a balance of ethical ruthlessness and loyalty I would venture to say. Otherwise you have an ossified arthritic government of Nancy, Chuck and Joe types. There aren't many humble souls operating at high levels of politics and John Kelly is probably a vengeful little man these days who places his ego before the national good.
And Jake Tapper, well you know that's going to be a CNN hit piece.
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Did you read why Ex Marine Corporal General John Kelly thought Donald Trump should never be allowed in the White House ? I quoted the summary in post 667. If you go to the story it details exactly why Trump is no man for President.

If the source of General John Kelly's comments concerns you I suggest you check it out on a news source you would trust perhaps the Murdoch Press ?

Former general and White House chief of staff John Kelly speaks out against his former boss, Donald Trump​

An American general who served as Donald Trump’s chief of staff in the White House has issued an extraordinary statement.

Samuel Clench

 
NEW - Big tech giant Google omits Trump assassination attempt from the search engine’s “Autocomplete” feature.​


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The MSM media and plenty of their accolytes keep goi ng on about right wing conspiracy theorists being a danger to us all.
And yet these groups constantly provide a plethora of stupid censorship that allows these groups to bring up the conspiracy theories.
The fools just keep right on feeding the RWNJ then wonder why in the hell no one believes them any more.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
The MSM media and plenty of their accolytes keep goi ng on about right wing conspiracy theorists being a danger to us all.
And yet these groups constantly provide a plethora of stupid censorship that allows these groups to bring up the conspiracy theories.
The fools just keep right on feeding the RWNJ then wonder why in the hell no one believes them any more.
Mick
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Define RWNJ
 

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