Live trading rooms (PlanetWealth, 21st Century etc.)

[pustanio]

ok trainspotter, get your point.

to answer your question as to why futures - after my limited research it seemed to look like easier money than other markets. I intend to sticking to what I know, but the way my business runs any further cash injection wont really create any more profit for me, so wanted to diversify and futures (through the positive marketing material I had read) looked promising.

@ cartman - dont see how what I wrote would make you think I am with either of these companies. Thanks for the credit though on my intelligance. I can understand how many posts from spammers are here, I have read some of them and have seen the guys get flamed. My questions were genuine, and only asked after I used the search function.

@ doctorj - funnily enough, I was a mortgage broker for 5 years prior to what I do now. Thanks for the honest comments. I had looked at managed funds and the way the market has been in the last 8 months or so I am glad I didnt go down that track. Thought that futures had a lower risk of losing money, at least not in bulk amounts like managed funds.

The way I was looking at this venture really was like managed funds, only in futures market.

Anyway, not a single go for it from the people that replied, so looks like its not really as good as it may sound.

 

[mazzatelli]

just for the record, the 21st E mini boyz use a sophisticated blend of MACD and Stochastic combination with their own "special" parameters

It is just basic divergence they use. You could glean the same information from Alexander Elder's book.

Plus the real deal breaker is initially they provide hand holding, but after some access to a "live" trading room they charge further $$$ to access that room.

 

[Naked shorts]

The way I was looking at this venture really was like managed funds, only in futures market.

To me you sound like a fraud trying to generate interest in these companies.

But on the unlikely chance you are for real, I will try to help.

These companies are jokes and the people that run them know it.

If you want someone else to manage your money because you are too busy, then go to this website
http://www.barclayhedge.com/
Sign up and pay for the "fund of fund" database ($2k), find a few funds that meet your criteria and call them up and tell them you have money to invest.

(Im not affiliated with Barclay Hedge)

Learning to trade for yourself is a full time effort and unless you are willing to step down from your job and trade full time for one year+, do not bother.

 

[wayneL]

To me you sound like a fraud trying to generate interest in these companies.

But on the unlikely chance you are for real, I will try to help.

These companies are jokes and the people that run them know it.

If you want someone else to manage your money because you are too busy, then go to this website
http://www.barclayhedge.com/
Sign up and pay for the "fund of fund" database ($2k), find a few funds that meet your criteria and call them up and tell them you have money to invest.

(Im not affiliated with Barclay Hedge)

Learning to trade for yourself is a full time effort and unless you are willing to step down from your job and trade full time for one year+, do not bother.

Agreed 100%

Or develop some end of day method of trading.... either on your own or with the help of someone like Radge, who has already been mentioned.

Clowns like the others ones mentioned are no help to a busy business person... and doubtful to anyone for that matter.

 

[pustanio]

thanks, I will check out that site.

BTW if I could go back and edit the post with reference to the company names I would..

But cant find an edit function on the posts.

 

[Timmy]

I know people who signed up to E-minis. They didn't make any money and haven't met any fellow traders who made money.
All are on simulators.

You are wasting your time looking at them

Yes

Sorry to be harsh, but this is the fact I think of when I see all these Qs on forums:

Typical wannabe 'trader' out to make a quick buck, which just doesn't happen unless you take a punt and get lucky, but without the skill you will end up on the pile of wasteaways like so many before you and so many after you.

Thechartist.com.au way cheaper, far more reputable and valuable. You will have your periods of grinding away, going backwards, but in the end, you will see an edge. That is trading.

Yes

um ..........

its called discrete advertising

thankyou for listening

yours sincerely

marketing team at planet century

OH GOD YES!

RUN FOREST RUN!!

Yes

It is just basic divergence they use. You could glean the same information from Alexander Elder's book.

Plus the real deal breaker is initially they provide hand holding, but after some access to a "live" trading room they charge further $$$ to access that room.

Yes!

I'll have what she's having.

 

[jono1887]

Say no more. Go armed with a crucifix, a wooden stake, a mallet and silver bullets.

you forgot the garlic and holy water!!

 

[cutz]

I am a very busy company director, but have an interest in trading futures.

Hi pustanio,

I haven't got any personal experience on dodgy courses but in my most humble opinion you're pissing into the wind.

If you can't dedicate at least 4-6 hours per day, do a solo apprenticeship, ditch your commitment to directorship, you're destined to fail attempting to trade futures no matter how much you pay for any so called courses, most successful traders start at a young age and learn via real experience, simulators don't cut it, the real test is how you handle real cash.

On the other hand if you can afford to blow whatever it costs go ahead.


Adios.

 

[trainspotter]

thanks, I will check out that site.

BTW if I could go back and edit the post with reference to the company names I would..

But cant find an edit function on the posts.

The edit function has a time out limit so that refractory rapscallions who make inane posts can be flamed for months to come.

If you have the propensity to resemble a "chip" around here, then the fellow ASFers surely do a fantastic impersonation of "seagulls" .... to put it mildly.

I believe you have received our thoughts on the matter loud and clear on the aforementioned companies that originally caught your eye for trading matters.

But thank you for placing the carcass on the table for all of us to feast on.

 

[Broadway]

If these rooms had something that worked, you would have heard about it, and everybody would be doing it at any cost, kind of like viagra.

 

[wayneL]

If you have the propensity to resemble a "chip" around here, then the fellow ASFers surely do a fantastic impersonation of "seagulls" .... to put it mildly.

ROTFL.

Brilliant imagery.

 

[J.Baker]

I didnt read all the post, so I don't know where the convo is at. But for the record I'm trading eminis with traders int and making money... Its takes time to get into it tho... They say 6months but I'd alow upward of a year ( depending on how diligent you are i guess )..... Im trading one contract and on average take $250us per week.. But thats all I need, because eventually as my tradin acct does up, I can compound that 1 in 2 contract and make 500, two into three and make 750 etc etc... Really, the only hard part about it for me is the whole "mind set thing" everything else is easy.. If you take all their signals, you will definatly be in the money... But, 7500 sign up fee plus 299per mth is a little steep I must admit.. A plus is they are opening an forex room in about a months time which will be included in the sign up and monthly fee I think... PM me if you have any Q's...

 

[MRC & Co]

250 a week on a 1 lot is hardly an edge. That could turn on it's head very very quickly.

I'm still to hear of or meet anyone genuine who has made more than the costs out of these type of things.

Would be more than happy to be prooven otherwise, even by the guys who created it themselves.

 

[nunthewiser]

I didnt read all the post, so I don't know where the convo is at. But for the record I'm trading eminis with traders int and making money... Its takes time to get into it tho... They say 6months but I'd alow upward of a year ( depending on how diligent you are i guess )..... Im trading one contract and on average take $250us per week.. But thats all I need, because eventually as my tradin acct does up, I can compound that 1 in 2 contract and make 500, two into three and make 750 etc etc... Really, the only hard part about it for me is the whole "mind set thing" everything else is easy.. If you take all their signals, you will definatly be in the money... But, 7500 sign up fee plus 299per mth is a little steep I must admit.. A plus is they are opening an forex room in about a months time which will be included in the sign up and monthly fee I think... PM me if you have any Q's...

excuse me ???

not 2 posts ago on other threads you are asking newbie questions regarding basic stuff of which I REPLIED too

something suss around here champ , if i could be stuffed i would post your previous posts , but i will just say to any reading this to do a SEARCH on previous posts instead

avaniceday

 

[trainspotter]

ok trainspotter, get your point.

The way I was looking at this venture really was like managed funds, only in futures market.

Anyway, not a single go for it from the people that replied, so looks like its not really as good as it may sound.

If it is too good to be true then ........ it probably is ! Sort of like the Nigerian Banking email scam that was quite popular a while back and the "greedy/innocent" victims of this invidious crime called "Advanced Fee Fraud" sold their souls for the reward of promised millions on return of your bank account details. The best part was watching them on ACA and Today Tonight and other worthy journalistic programs as they cried over how they gave 200k into an undisclosed bank account of unsavoury origins. *mental note to self ... find these people before the Nigerians do* as they poured the crocodile tears for all and sundry to witness their folly. Ohhhh ... the horror !

The words written in response to your original neophytic post are like pearls of wisdom that will leave you truly without doubt as to what the quorum are thinking and or writing. And as they are very practiced and learned is such ways of explicating their pansophic opines it would appear that it would be wise to reconsider your obtuse rationale. (in light of the reaction)

Please be more practiced when it comes to providing us with so much glee to feast upon as it would be advisable to be very wary of the mood of the assembled masses when it arrives at this pinnacle of obfuscation.

I empathise with you that it is not easy being a high powered executive with cash to burn but may I suggest that you take an easier path to enlightenment such as requesting the company of fellow like minded, inner circle associates, good corporate citizens in the same position as yourself who have broken out and paved the way to the Nirvana you are currently seeking. (so much easier talking to someone on the same level)

Once again I wish you the best in your endeavours and would like to take the opportunity of apologising enmasse if you are the genuine article looking for some guidance. (I believe you have received the info) If on the other hand you are trying to publicise the aforementioned schemes (very crudely I must say) then I hope your balls get itchy and your fingernails turn into fish hooks.

And a very BIG bit of man loving goes out to the NUN on his exemplary bit of investigative piece of diligence on the fictitious poster. Amen.

 

[lindsayf]

If these rooms had something that worked, you would have heard about it, and everybody would be doing it at any cost, kind of like viagra.

so you like viagra hey?

 

[Cartman]

invidious
neophytic post
quorum are thinking
explicating their pansophic opines
obtuse rationale
pinnacle of obfuscation.

geez Trainer, --- i was starting to get confused having to look up my funk and wagnel so often, --- when ----

I hope your balls get itchy and your fingernails turn into fish hooks.

i finally understood what u were saying !! : lol ---

 

[CanOz]

There is another option

http://www.indextrader.com.au

I'm in the exact same boat as you pustanio, the day job just got a lot busier. If i am to balance work and life, i need to outsource my trading, not just the research anymore.

With Brent's system, i will receive the signal by email, put in a mail forward rule to my full service broker ($ouch i know$), and expect to have the orders executed by them.

Totally mechanical system, tested, and traded by Brent, trading many index futures, Asian, Eurpean, US.

Hands off trading.....but.....

You have got to be able to stomach the drawdowns.

Good luck.



CanOz

 

[Julia]

What a bunch of untrusting cynics you all are.

I'd not hesitate to part with $8000 in this instance, because I absolutely believe everyone who advertises they will make you instantly rich really means it and moreover has a foolproof plan that will ensure this.

By the time I have sent off similar amounts to all the spruikers on the web, I will be able to sit back and watch the riches roll in. Nothing to it.

 

[nunthewiser]

And a very BIG bit of man loving goes out to the NUN on his exemplary bit of investigative piece of diligence on the fictitious poster. Amen.

im not that kinds nun