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They can't bring back Kev.I don't think Slipper will be in the chair when Parliament resumes, Labors best option is to put Rudd back just before election to get some sympathy votes but not have him there long enough before the election so that people can remember they didn't like him either.
The Carbon Tax will be a disaster and Gillard will throw money out left and right in a vain effort to buy support but it won't work.
They can't bring back Kev.
Labor has handed the opposition more ammo on him than the all the super-powers nuclear arsenal combined.
It will be someone new, to best salvage what they can from the sinking ship.
Yes, you're right. Kev belongs in the past.They can't bring back Kev.
Labor has handed the opposition more ammo on him than the all the super-powers nuclear arsenal combined.
It will be someone new, to best salvage what they can from the sinking ship.
Yes, you're right. Kev belongs in the past.
Hard to know who they will use to replace Gillard if she continues to fall in the polls.
Eager, So Cynical et al: who do you think should lead your chosen party?
Yes, you're right. Kev belongs in the past.
Hard to know who they will use to replace Gillard if she continues to fall in the polls.
Eager, So Cynical et al: who do you think should lead your chosen party?
Eager and Sc's opinion will not count, as ALP members do not have much say in what happens.
I would put money on it that KR is sitting up all night tonight taking calls.
gg
Do ALP members or MPs have ANY say? It seems incredible that, in a democratic system, a party can deny their MPs a say.
How on earth do these members represent their electorates if they are forced to vote for the leader's personal agendas?
I think this has been an overlooked fact by many who have voted for labor, however, I suspect it has been the reason Gillard was so determined to be a labor PM so she could inflict whatever she wanted in to this country.
Doesn't the Coalition largely do likewise? i.e. they have a party line which all members are expected to promote. They may have adjusted their thinking recently but the last I heard was they were not even going to allow a conscience vote on gay marriage.Do ALP members or MPs have ANY say? It seems incredible that, in a democratic system, a party can deny their MPs a say.
How on earth do these members represent their electorates if they are forced to vote for the leader's personal agendas?
I think this has been an overlooked fact by many who have voted for labor, however, I suspect it has been the reason Gillard was so determined to be a labor PM so she could inflict whatever she wanted in to this country.
Doesn't the Coalition largely do likewise? i.e. they have a party line which all members are expected to promote. They may have adjusted their thinking recently but the last I heard was they were not even going to allow a conscience vote on gay marriage.
Is this one tongue in cheek (pun intended).
In Australia, one of the major parties (the Australian Labor Party) forbids its members from crossing the floor,[1] while amongst other parties it is rare.
Both major parties went to the last election opposing gay marriage.Doesn't the Coalition largely do likewise? i.e. they have a party line which all members are expected to promote. They may have adjusted their thinking recently but the last I heard was they were not even going to allow a conscience vote on gay marriage.
Doesn't the Coalition largely do likewise? i.e. they have a party line which all members are expected to promote. They may have adjusted their thinking recently but the last I heard was they were not even going to allow a conscience vote on gay marriage.
Senator Barnaby Joyce of the National Party of Australia however, crossed the floor 19 times under the Howard coalition government.[2] However, the record for crossing the floor in the Australian Parliament goes to Tasmanian Senator Sir Reg Wright, who voted against his own party (the Liberal Party of Australia) on 150 occasions.
I didn't suggest anyone was going to be expelled.Julia, this also from the same wiki page:
Barnaby Joyce has not been expelled.
J
(Apologies in advance for any spelling errors).
I am reliably informed from the palace of the Brissie King that the quest for leadership of what is left of the Australian Labor Federal Caucus, is, officially again, ON.
gg
Good, I'm no fan of Rudd but anything to see Gillard put in her place.
My contacts in Sussex St. assure me that the odds have SHORTENed on a dream team with the Brissie King.
gg
He will have to make a move dangerous as cunning, I hate what he personifiesMy contacts in Sussex St. assure me that the odds have SHORTENed on a dream team with the Brissie King.
gg
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