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Israel - Palestine

Did you know that a lot of Palestinians live in Israel peacefully
A couple have even been elected into Israel's House of Representatives

They can only live together in peace when Hamas is Killed off and all the bombs and rockets are removed
The problem of the Refugees lies totally on the Arm Suppliers
IMHO
If they could afford all the rockets They can afford the Resettlement
Just Imagine they might even give them Jobs and collect Taxes

They might even feel better Instead of living on UN handouts for Decades
 
Israel is doing the world’s heavy lifting. To deny that is to deny the truth and by extension to say that countries such as Australia, Britain, New Zealand, the US, liberal Western democracies, would willingly invite Hamas to our shores, into our schools, homes and parliaments.
If that is your view, then you are not my countryman. You have a different hope for Australia’s future than I do.

 
1. The vote wouldn't change anything. Israel would still have to destroy Hamas and they would not have got the hostages.
2. The UN security council hardly ever vote together. Russia definitely would not have in this case as they are allied to Iran. So a compromise has to be reached.

Pretty basic. You can't blame the UN.
 
@JohnDe and if they are here silently awaiting the call and then if caught well its just unfortunate that the death sentence is no longer carried out.
 
The question was rhetorical and serves as a contextualisation of the current UN politicking
 
With my thoughts previously posted I recall with horror at the time, when the POL leader Arafat was at the UN Security Council, I think it was, addressing the gathered, well paid cheering horde, brandishing a side firearm.
They didn't then have the balls to make him leave it at home.
Such is the power of the UN. Weak as ...s
 
The IDF is not wasting time or taking short steps in it's efforts to wipe out HAMAS.

They just pulverized the home of a veteran UN Aid worker and buried 70 members of his family and turned their home into a mass grave.

Israeli airstrike kills Gaza aid worker and 70 of his extended family, UN says

Call to protect civilians and humanitarian staff after UNDP’s Issam al-Mughrabi, his wife, children and scores of relatives killed


Emma Graham-Harrison
Sun 24 Dec 2023 12.33 AEDTFirst published on Sun 24 Dec 2023 01.02 AEDT


An Israeli military airstrike killed more than 70 members of an extended family, including a veteran UN aid worker, as the UN secretary general warned that the scale of death and destruction inside Gaza is blocking delivery of desperately needed aid.

Issam al-Mughrabi, 56, was killed with his wife, five children and dozens of other relatives in a bombing near Gaza City, said the head of the UN development programme (UNDP) in a statement that also called for an urgent ceasefire.

“The loss of Issam and his family has deeply affected us all,” UNDP administrator Achim Steiner said. “The UN and civilians in Gaza are not a target. This war must end. No more families should endure the pain and suffering that Issam’s family and countless others are experiencing.”

 

The war can end today, all by Hamas laying down arms and surrendering.
 
The war can end today, all by Hamas laying down arms and surrendering.
Or it can end when Israel has leveled Gaza and killed or dispersed 2 million people. And it seems Israel has made it clear it will demolish Gaza block by block . To date 60% of all buildings in Gazahave been damaged or destroyed.

There is nothing like having absolute military power to enable such a punitive approach . This isn't "war" as we know it.

Israeli military accused of targeting journalists and their families in Gaza

Committee to Protect Journalists says at least 68 journalists and media workers killed since 7 October


Chris McGreal in New York
Fri 22 Dec 2023 05.47 AEDTLast modified on Sat 23 Dec 2023 03.06 AEDT


The Committee to Protect Journalists has accused the Israeli military of targeting journalists and their families in Gaza amid the highest death toll of media workers in any recent conflict.

The New York-based CPJ said at least 68 journalists and other media workers had been killed in Gaza, Israel and southern Lebanon since the Hamas cross-border attack on 7 October and subsequent Israeli assault.

“More journalists have been killed in the first 10 weeks of the Israel-Gaza war than have ever been killed in a single country over an entire year,” it said.
“CPJ is particularly concerned about an apparent pattern of targeting of journalists and their families by the Israeli military. In at least one case, a journalist was killed while clearly wearing press insignia in a location where no fighting was taking place. In at least two other cases, journalists reported receiving threats from Israeli officials and Israel Defense Forces officers before their family members were killed.”
The CPJ called for Israel to “end the longstanding pattern of impunity in cases of journalists killed by the IDF”.

 

Analysis: Why Israel will continue its deadly push into Gaza city centres

A long, grinding urban war appears likely now, if Israel is to negate the effects of Hamas tunnels. But keeping public support intact won’t be easy.
 
Al Jazeera and The Guardian, combined with basilio's peculiarly toxic far left anti Jewish take.

Propaganda at its most purulent.
 

War is hell.

Protocol I was adopted as an amendment to the Geneva Conventions, prohibiting the deliberate or indiscriminate attack of civilians and civilian objects, even if the area contained military objectives, and the attacking force must take precautions and steps to spare the lives of civilians and civilian objects as possible. However, forces occupying near densely populated areas must avoid locating military objectives near or in densely populated areas and endeavor to remove civilians from the vicinity of military objectives. Failure to do so would cause a higher civilian death toll resulting from bombardment by the attacking force and the defenders would be held responsible, even criminally liable, for these deaths. This issue was addressed because drafters of Protocol I pointed out historical examples such as Japan in World War II who often dispersed legitimate military and industrial targets (almost two-thirds of production was from small factories of thirty or fewer persons or in wooden homes, which were clustered around the factories) throughout urban areas in many of its cities either with the sole purpose of preventing enemy forces from bombing these targets
 
I don't believe it is "punitive". I think that's the excuse we get. Feels like this has been planned a lot more comprehensively than they are letting on. Might be how we see these problems dealt with from now on. We saw it with the rohingya. Peace doesn't work with these hard religions.

In the long run its easier to eradicate problem groups altogether by shifting them out. No one in the West cares that much about radicalised Muslims getting screwed. Problem is where are they getting shifted to.

Just imagine if China did something similar to Australia off the back of propaganda (which they have used up until recently to attack Australia. Are other nations really willing to step in and help us while sacrificing lives of their own?

Hard to see strong alliances at the moment. Definitely makes one wonder about the future
 

The Israeli war against Hamas has shown in a very dramatic way how journalism has changed in recent times – and how many journalists have come to see their role as warriors for social justice. We have been here before. There was hardly a mention of what happened on October 7 inside Israel..Neither did any call out and condemn the rape and torture of women and girls by the Hamas terrorists and as a result the increasing and horrific evidence of these crimes against humanity have been downplayed .

 
You have made the same post 5 times. It is getting a bit repetitive.

Not every building in Gaza is a military objective. FFS
 
You have made the same post 5 times. It is getting a bit repetitive.

Not every building in Gaza is a military objective. FFS

Israel is doing the world’s heavy lifting. To deny that is to deny the truth and by extension to say that countries such as Australia, Britain, New Zealand, the US, liberal Western democracies, would willingly invite Hamas to our shores, into our schools, homes and parliaments.
If that is your view, then you are not my countryman. You have a different hope for Australia’s future than I do.

 
Sorry Basilio But You make me Sick!

The First CAUALTY in WAR is the TRUTH

The Second CASUALTY is those who develop the "Basilio Syndrome"
( Probably named after You)

You carry on about the UN and the 70 above but why did you and the UN not take on the same task on the 8th October after the infamous ~1500

You have had plenty of time IMHO to answer this question so I have elected to not hear from you in the future

Good Bye

 
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