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A speech that will give our resident ASF Jew haters a bit of Christmas cheer.

 
Or just continue to turn Gaza into rubble, kill 50,000 women and children directly and then let disease take its course for another 200k.

Meanwhile create a legacy of hatred amongst the survivors that will burn for another 50 years.

There are no good options in this disaster.
No there are no good options now. The best option is off the table, courtesy of Hamas.

Still interested in the sound of crickets regarding other conflicts in the Middle East, and the concordant, but much higher death toll on civilians.

Could it be.....?

Could it be that those damned Jews are involved?
 
Israel controls pretty much all of Palestine, it's hard to see how weapons or ammunition could get in.
Israel has not controlled the Gaza strip since the Oslo Accord in 1993.
It was negotiated between Shimon Peres of Israel, and Mahommad Abbas of the PLO.
It was subsequently signed off by Yassar Arafat of the PLO, and Yitsac Rabin for Israel, which gave the Palestinians self government in Gaza and West Bank in return for an agreement of Israels right to exist, and the withdrawl of Israeli security forces.
Since then carious factions of the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah have ruled Gaza, and although there have been numerous attacks on Gaza since then by Israelis, they have not occupied Gaza since the the withdrawl of IDF as part of the Oslo Accord.
Weapons have been bought in from Egypt, via the Gaza port.
mick
 
Wayne I think you should just stop this Jew Hater shite. It is just vile abuse that adds nothing to any discussion and demeans ASF.
Bullsh1t. We live in a time with a language is replete with such words as islamophobe, transphobe, misogynist, white privilege etc etc etc.

You have, in not so many words, have accused members here, myself included, of Nazism.

So you can go straight to hell with your purulent double standards @basilio.... And when you've gone to hell you can come back and go straight to hell once again for the double helping you deserve because of this gross hypocrisy.

But fyi I would have been quite happy to stick with anti-semite if it were not for the pedantic post further up.
Which do you prefer to be applied to yourself as a matter of interest?
 
Bullsh1t. We live in a time with a language is replete with such words as islamophobe, transphobe, misogynist, white privilege etc etc etc.

You have, in not so many words, have accused members here, myself included, of Nazism.

So you can go straight to hell with your purulent double standards @basilio.... And when you've gone to hell you can come back and go straight to hell once again for the double helping you deserve because of this gross hypocrisy.

But fyi I would have been quite happy to stick with anti-semite if it were not for the pedantic post further up.
Which do you prefer to be applied to yourself as a matter of interest?
Pissed off, fed up to the back teeth and disgusted with your lying shite. But then what else would I expect ? I have seen what you produce for 15 years. As a w(h)ine goes your output has turned to the bitterest vinegar which taints far too many threads.

In this thread in particular you equate anything other than full throated support for Israel crushing all of Gaza into rubble ( to somehow destroy Hammas) as Jew hating.

That doesn't ask questions. It doesn't explore options. It doesn't recognise millions of men women and children as fellow human beings who don't deserve to be destroyed in the name of "self protection" or vengance.

It is just poison Wayne.
 
Pissed off, fed up to the back teeth and disgusted with your lying shite. But then what else would I expect ? I have seen what you produce for 15 years. As a w(h)ine goes your output has turned to the bitterest vinegar which taints far too many threads.

In this thread in particular you equate anything other than full throated support for Israel crushing all of Gaza into rubble ( to somehow destroy Hammas) as Jew hating.

That doesn't ask questions. It doesn't explore options. It doesn't recognise millions of men women and children as fellow human beings who don't deserve to be destroyed in the name of "self protection" or vengance.

It is just poison Wayne.

Don't feed the troll Bas :(
 
Pissed off, fed up to the back teeth and disgusted with your lying shite. But then what else would I expect ? I have seen what you produce for 15 years. As a w(h)ine goes your output has turned to the bitterest vinegar which taints far too many threads.

In this thread in particular you equate anything other than full throated support for Israel crushing all of Gaza into rubble ( to somehow destroy Hammas) as Jew hating.

That doesn't ask questions. It doesn't explore options. It doesn't recognise millions of men women and children as fellow human beings who don't deserve to be destroyed in the name of "self protection" or vengance.

It is just poison Wayne.
So block me then Bas.

The fact remains that you are only posting up propaganda here when Israel is involved.

Every war is tragic and the only reason there aren't 9,000,000 Jewish bodies in the area is because they have better toys. This is what history shows. Without the so-called iron dome, it would be Tel Aviv in ruins long ago.

Remember, it is your cohort chanting "from the river to the sea" (a call to genocide). Remember it is your cohort which is blind to 1400 murders in the most grisly circumstances which kicked this all off.

It is a fact that the far left are anti-semitic, and your posts here confirm this. Let the record show...
 
Another world leader who doesn't believe stopping Hamas allows Israel to destroy the lives of 2 million people.

Fighting terrorism did not mean Israel had to ‘flatten Gaza’, says Emmanuel Macron

French president calls on Israel ‘to stop this response because it is not appropriate’ as he repeats ceasefire demand


Staff and agencies in Paris
Thu 21 Dec 2023 09.40 AEDTLast modified on Thu 21 Dec 2023 09.48 AEDT


Emmanuel Macron has said that Israel’s goal of fighting terrorism did not mean it had to “flatten Gaza”, referring to its response to Hamas’s attack on 7 October.

“We cannot let the idea take root that an efficient fight against terrorism implies to flatten Gaza or attack civilian populations indiscriminately,” Macron told the France 5 broadcaster.

The French president called on Israel “to stop this response because it is not appropriate, because all lives are worth the same and we defend them”.

While acknowledging “Israel’s right to defend itself and fight terror”, Macron said France called for the protection of civilians and “a truce leading to a humanitarian ceasefire”.


Another world leader who doesn't believe stopping Hamas allows Israel to destroy the lives of 2 million people.

Fighting terrorism did not mean Israel had to ‘flatten Gaza’, says Emmanuel Macron

French president calls on Israel ‘to stop this response because it is not appropriate’ as he repeats ceasefire demand


Staff and agencies in Paris
Thu 21 Dec 2023 09.40 AEDTLast modified on Thu 21 Dec 2023 09.48 AEDT


Emmanuel Macron has said that Israel’s goal of fighting terrorism did not mean it had to “flatten Gaza”, referring to its response to Hamas’s attack on 7 October.

“We cannot let the idea take root that an efficient fight against terrorism implies to flatten Gaza or attack civilian populations indiscriminately,” Macron told the France 5 broadcaster.

The French president called on Israel “to stop this response because it is not appropriate, because all lives are worth the same and we defend them”.

While acknowledging “Israel’s right to defend itself and fight terror”, Macron said France called for the protection of civilians and “a truce leading to a humanitarian ceasefire”.

Says another Leader who does not let the Palestinian Refugees into his country

Why does not any other country want these displaced people?
The reason is obvious!
Why have not the 1.9 Million Palestinian displaced over-thrown their home grown terrorists?

Crikey! If nearly Half the population of Melbourne or Half the population of Sydney was displaced
I am sure there would be some Hell of an uprising amongst the displaced to Hand-over the Terrorists and Hostages to Stop the carnage

Alas, This is not the case Go Figure!

XYZ Yacht.GIF
All the Israelites want is their Hostages and their Terrorists
 
If the Israelis went in any softer into Gaza than they have
Then Hezbollah with probably 100 -1000 times the Size of Hamas and her weaponry would have moved in by now
Yep , that's what the Israelis are really up to . Sending out a clear message to all her enemies in the region .
Sending a message : both to the terrorists to the north ,but most importantly , to the mad mullahs in Iran.
Israel would only take so much pounding of its cities , before going nuclear . Iran may have held its fire in this brutal war , for that very reason .
 
Found this 12 min video explainer on the state of play in Gaza as Israel undertakes a piece by piece approach to making the area uninhabitable. Offers some excellent historical context as well.

Well how would you go into a city Hunting the Terrorists that have all their buildings booby trapped with explosives.-

Is it not a better plan of War to Blow up the building before it blows up one of your own

I don't know what your Plan of Action would be ?

Please tell us all
I am very interested into your Solution
XYZ Yacht.GIF
 
Don't feed the troll Bas :(
Indeed. I agree. But honestly I felt that the repeated egregious abuse of anyone who questioned Israel unrestrained destruction of Gaza as Jew haters needed to be called out.

It does destroy any thoughtful discussion. It certainly destroys the interest of any ASF member or visitor who isn't cast in the "All Muslims/Palestinians are murderous fanatics " mold. In that context I suggest it also undermines ASF .:(
 
Israel controls pretty much all of Palestine, it's hard to see how weapons or ammunition could get in.
Do you think the Israelites supplied the Rockets in order to Start this War or do you have a different idea?

In my mind , The Culprit Arm-Suppliers to Hamas MUST take the Palestinian refugees as their Prize

Nobody else will have them
XYZ Yacht.GIF
 
I don't know what was the more horrific
Bin Laden and his terrorists attack of 911 killing ~3000 innocents

or The Hamas Attack on Israel on October 9 Killing and taking hostage of ~ 1500 innocents
On percentage of population terms the Hamas attack is ~40x greater

Has Israel gone harder than the Americans to Get their Bin Laden and his company of terrorists
Not yet in my Opinion
I don't think we can do the figures until it is all over

XYZ Yacht.GIF
PS : It is not over 'til I start singing
 
Indeed. I agree. But honestly I felt that the repeated egregious abuse of anyone who questioned Israel unrestrained destruction of Gaza as Jew haters needed to be called out.

It does destroy any thoughtful discussion. It certainly destroys the interest of any ASF member or visitor who isn't cast in the "All Muslims/Palestinians are murderous fanatics " mold. In that context I suggest it also undermines ASF .:(

I advise people to just read the actual points made in this thread. This will expose the above post as total BS.

That is all.
 
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