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Glen48 said:
The Yanks are hell bent of supporting Israel right or wrong because the Jews run USA.
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What an absolutely stupid racist statement! It's one thing to be passionate about any given subject, but being blind with ignorance is not going to help anything.
 
gordon2007 said:
What an absolutely stupid racist statement! It's one thing to be passionate about any given subject, but being blind with ignorance is not going to help anything.
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Totally agree Gordon...and you could have used half a dozen other quotes from this thread to illustrate your point
 
gordon2007 said:
What an absolutely stupid racist statement! It's one thing to be passionate about any given subject, but being blind with ignorance is not going to help anything.
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Ah yes. There are only two subjects that get ASF members more turgid than that hoary old chestnut, SEX.

Lemme see - RACE comes to mind. Followed closely by RELIGION.

Nothing changes.

Nothing will change.

Nothing will ever change.

Ditto.
 
"absolutely stupid racist statement"

It is not a racist statement !
It is not a stupid statement !

The statement by G48 was fair and reasonable.

I have noticed that when all else fails, some people will pull the racist card as a last ditch play.

So lets keep things up and debate the matter without a 'bent' in one direction or the other.
PLEASE.

UB
 
Originally Posted by Glen48
The Yanks are hell bent of supporting Israel right or wrong because the Jews run USA.
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Jews dont run the USA but its obvious they run the federal reserve .....

The current members of the Board of Governors are:

Ben Bernanke, Chairman
Donald Kohn, Vice-Chairman
Kevin Warsh
Randall Kroszner*

Elizabeth A. Duke


and if you control a nations money it doesnt matter who makes the laws they say ?
 
Uncle Barry said:
"absolutely stupid racist statement"

It is not a racist statement !
It is not a stupid statement !

The statement by G48 was fair and reasonable.

UB
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Ah come on Uncle, you have to admit it was STUPID
Everyone knows that the Jews lost all thier money in the Sub Prime and now its the Saudis and the Chinese who bankroll the USA
 
This mess will only be fixed militarily.

The Israelis may need to push the Arabs right out of Palestine completely and close the borders to protect themselves.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
This mess will only be fixed militarily.

The Israelis may need to push the Arabs right out of Palestine completely and close the borders to protect themselves.

gg
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Naive and dumb (sorry again, but it's true) as if that will ever work.

Just the same as if the positions were reverse, whoever is on the **** side becomes adept at guerrilla fighting, hiding in the populace which supports them and makes up their base, and generally causing havoc for the other side.

Just look at this current action, Israels biggest since the Six Day War. Hamas firing rockets constantly, ONE Israeli citizen dead. ONE. Two days later, 270 Palestinians dead.

Who "wins"? The Israelis because they killed almost 300 of their "enemy" using soldiers pressed into conscripted service? Or Hamas because they managed to force an incumbent and beleaguered government to spend millions of dollars in military firepower and resources at a proportionally nil cost to their own military strategy? Not to mention bolstering their ranks by the families of all those firebrand -now dead- Arabs who will now willingly sign up to Hamas for life to get revenge?

For those millions they spent what did they get? A bunch of dead civilians who weren't even involved and a guaranteed influx of suicide bombings for at least the next six months.

Certainly they did not get an increase in security for their citizens, and frankly, it's pretty f'ing obvious that isn't even what they want, no matter what they say on the news!
 
N2F
"Ah come on Uncle, you have to admit it was STUPID"


Again,

It is not a racist statement !
It is not a stupid statement !

The statement by G48 was fair and reasonable.
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Without the money sent from the Govern, of the Unite States of America, Israel would not be able to afford these attacks on another country.

What do you call people ?
People who attack someone that cannot defend themself.

We have a situation where a group fire rockets etc from the ground in fact hundreds and only kill one person.

The other side uses advanced aircraft to kill 200 plus and wound 900 to 1000 humans or more, women and kids included.

Now in a common street fight you would call the crazy people who went mad with power, cowards, the ones who attacked and killed over 200 humans !

Would Israel attack another country if they had advanced aircraft also, AND the same help from America ? Maybe not.

They would work away around the problem/s by talking.

To look at the other side,
From the Palestine side

To be personal, as an Australian.

What would you do,
if the United Nations
decided to give from the Queensland border with NSW right across this country,
To China.
Because they had nowhere to place their people.

Would you just talk
Fight for your land, your country

Myself an a proud Australia would do my best to fight and remove these invaders, no matter what the UN decided.

Kind regards and all the Season's best wishes.
UB
 
by their works shall ye judge them
 

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Hey Uncle Just imagine you are in your appartment and rockets are being fired every day around your area. The fact that only one person has been killed would not make the situation any less fearful.

Cowards are the ones firing the rockets into civilian populations

American money is countered by Iranian/Soviet money

You cannot undo the past and Israel is not going anywhere, so they will fight and take action to defend thier citizens

And the only statment from you that makes any sense is that they should talk ... but they won't will they
 

Agree totally.

These godbotherers believe that they'll get to heaven by blowing themselves and innocents up. Look what happened in Mumbai a few weeks ago.

They don't listen to peace overtures.

They are tribal untrustworthy bastards living with a 7th Century AD mindset.

I'd support Israel in this one.

gg
 
"Cowards are the ones firing the rockets into civilian populations"

You are totally wrong.

The cowards are,
The pilots in the jet fighter/bombers that fly in without warning and drop their laser directed bombs from 1000 feet or less and the race away at 1000mph.

They drop their bombs on people who cannot defend themselves against an American make jet fighter/bombers.


UB
 

Israel had good intelligence as to where to inflict the most damage on combatants.

Thats why they win 98% of stouches with the Arabs.

Good weapons, and good intelligence from turncoats amongst the Arabs, won this round Uncle.

gg
 
nick2fish said:
American money is countered by Iranian/Soviet money
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Some strong currencies going toe-to-toe there. Wonder which one will be inflated into oblivion first to fund these biblical skirmishes?

Also Soviet?

So far the 21st century can be titled 'Empires devalue their currencies to win skirmishes over ancient dirt'.

Oh how we have evolved...
 

The Romans sorted the place out for a few hundred years.

gg
 
The thing about these threads that **** me off is that they just become an open forum to throw around insults. You have one person who is so anti american they will take anyones side if they are also against america, no matter how wrong they are. But to be fair, you also have some who are so closed to the idea that arabs do have some legit fears and claims yet they hate arabs so much they won't tolerate anything about them either.

It's good fun and mind opening to have a good debate with pros and cons. But unfortunately ignorance and intolerance seems to take over and these just turn into mud slinging affairs.
 
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