religion is involved in around 7% of conflicts out of 1763 surveyed cases.
Whiskers,
Palestine has never had that luxury from the Zionists, who continue to be oppressive. We can condemn the behaviour of Hamas etc, but at the same time, we must understand the motivations for it. Hamas is first and foremost a social movement, and second a guerrilla movement. We call them terrorists.
But if they are terrorists, then we must accept that the French/Dutch/Norwegian/etc resistance were also terrorists, as were the early Zionists (and can be argued still are).
No you're wrong. I'm under no illusion about Hamas. But I think that they probably would not exist if Israel had behaved differently.
The fact that Obama is a crook can be easily established by studying this man’s life, words and deeds. Most people did not do any research about him. Truth is not that difficult to find. Your argument is very much like Muslims saying, wait until we die and then we will know the truth. That is not rational. We can find the truth if we open our eyes. This man will be the worst president America has ever had. How can I be so sure? Because I made a lot of research into the life if this scumbag. The usurper will destroy America. If a president was picked by lottery, the chances are that that person would have been far better than (that) bum. Now you have my words in black and white on this site. I would not make such a claims if I was not 100% sure.
hi, this isn't about christianity, this is about islam.
so what? last i looked neither of them spawned a religion with 1 billion adherents that is responsible for 12,561 terror attacks since 9/11. do try to be relevant.
there is tons of media around with people yelling "allah ackbar" then i think maybe islam is relevant to the discussion.
look to you and rowie, i've made my points about the evils of islam perfectly clear, i have yet to see 1 argument from any of you refuting the charges that mohammed was a paedophile, a rapist, a mass murderer and general all round psychopath.
p.s. the points don't come from billy graham or the kkk, they come from arab ex-muslims. maybe they are racist??
Rubbish.
Phillips and Axelrod in the Encyclopedia of Wars shows that religion is involved in around 7% of conflicts out of 1763 surveyed cases. 50% of those religious conflicts involved Islam.
Further, the democide project shows that by far, secular states (particularly of the 20thC, where incidentally, religion was marginalised) are responsible for killing more people than any other ideology.
Historically, somewhere in the order of 2% or so of deaths by mass atrocity have a religious basis.
As an atheist I can at aleast recognise that what a minority do is not representative of the entire religion, just like all buddhists probably don't not eat meat. But on pedophelia I am sure there would be more non clergy pedophiles than clergy so let's not over dramatise.well you compared violent islam to peaceful christianity.
most german aircraft and tanks bombing other christians had crosses on them. heinrich himmler and other SS proudly wore their iron crosses whilst sending jews and others to the gas chambers.
SS officers celebrated christmas mass in auschwitz. many invoked the name of jesus whilst committing terrible atocities. not that different from hamas. except hamas does not have the same capabilities to inflict harm.
i am not mohammads lawyer. i am not here to defend a man that died 1000 years ago. i wil note that he was never convicted of any of the charges you accuse him of. i would say mohammed was no worse then any medieval pope.
as for paedophelia... lol... look at the church today if you are so worried abot that kind of stuff.
Why not comment on the religion thread or start a new one. Let's get back to the thread topic. Hamas attacks Israel.
Source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010702645.htmlIsrael launched an attack in Gaza to destroy a defensive tunnel being dug by Hamas inside the wall that encloses Gaza.
Let's get back to the thread topic. Hamas attacks Israel.
No that's the thread title.Actually the thread topic is "Israel in the Gaza Strip".
Well, I'll go out on a limb - what we are discussing in this thread is at bottom the Islamisation of the West and the rights and wrongs of Israel doing something about it.
anyone that feels they have had their land taken from them will hit back. and rightly so..
Interesting historical discussion on who was there first, and who has right to the land.Christians and jews had their laand taken from them by Islamofascists starting 1000+ years ago - are you supporting all out war to reclaim their oil rich birth rights then ?
Hamas rockets blew away Gaza opportunityHere is a good article on what Israel did in peace and as an act of goodwill.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/394573_murdockonline03.html
Christians and jews had their laand taken from them by Islamofascists starting 1000+ years ago - are you supporting all out war to reclaim their oil rich birth rights then ?
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