Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

I tend not to judge and measure people base on their religion or skin tone. And I don't have issue with demographics threats to Australia's purity of blood and religion either.

So if we're to do the right thing by our international obligations and maybe human decency stuff and take in refugees... South American or Muslim refugees are all the same to me.

Not sure why people like or prefer people of the same race and religion as their own. I mean I know a lot more Asians and because I know many, I find that most Asians are pricks. But that's not because it's an Asian thing, just because I know more of them and hang around them often.

You don't see a lot of White Aussies like that? They're all nice and good?

Luu.....That does not answer my question which is do you favor bringing in more Muslims into Australia?

A simple YES or NO will do.

 

[luutzu]

Luu.....That does not answer my question which is do you favor bringing in more Muslims into Australia?

A simple YES or NO will do.

Yes it does answer it.

I favour migration, yes. Cultural background or religion I don't much care for. Main criteria ought to be whether our new citizens contribute or harm our commonwealth.

Some of us might believe that Islam and Muslims are harmful. I don't think that kind of simple measure are true. There are plenty of psychos and moochers from other races and other religions too... in fact, it's the mooching and terrorism that defines who's the moochers and who's the terrorists... not religion or ethnicity.

 

[noco]

Yes it does answer it.

I favour migration, yes. Cultural background or religion I don't much care for. Main criteria ought to be whether our new citizens contribute or harm our commonwealth.

Some of us might believe that Islam and Muslims are harmful. I don't think that kind of simple measure are true. There are plenty of psychos and moochers from other races and other religions too... in fact, it's the mooching and terrorism that defines who's the moochers and who's the terrorists... not religion or ethnicity.

You have hedged the question again...I just want a simple YES or NO...Do you favor more Muslim immigration into Australia?..Now please come clean with your answer otherwise I will take it that you are in favor of importing more Muslim terrorists.....

 

[luutzu]

You have hedged the question again...I just want a simple YES or NO...Do you favor more Muslim immigration into Australia?..Now please come clean with your answer otherwise I will take it that you are in favor of importing more Muslim terrorists.....

What?

You, and not me, we can't just ban Muslims noco. And we can't just let people in because they're Muslims either.

So it's a nonsensical question.

Take The Yellow Emperor's ban on Muslims. Do you seriously think that will keep America safe again?

Keeping American safe would be to not order a hit in Yemen. Not rattling sabres and nuclear annihilation against Iran or any other state.

The dude's been in power three weeks or less right? And already he'd pissed off all Muslims, most Mexicans, ratchet up war footing with China.. .and today, says he's going to bring peace to the Ukraine - that's going up against Russia, right?

Yup, take on the whole world why don't they ey. That'll keep the country safe and prosperous.

 

[noco]

What?

You, and not me, we can't just ban Muslims noco. And we can't just let people in because they're Muslims either.

So it's a nonsensical question.

Take The Yellow Emperor's ban on Muslims. Do you seriously think that will keep America safe again?

Keeping American safe would be to not order a hit in Yemen. Not rattling sabres and nuclear annihilation against Iran or any other state.

The dude's been in power three weeks or less right? And already he'd pissed off all Muslims, most Mexicans, ratchet up war footing with China.. .and today, says he's going to bring peace to the Ukraine - that's going up against Russia, right?

Yup, take on the whole world why don't they ey. That'll keep the country safe and prosperous.

Yes we can ban Muslims and we can stop further entry...This out country and they should live as we live...If the ones here can't assimilate, abide by our laws and send their kids to state owned schools, then they do not deserve to be here....They leave their own country because they are suppressed or for some other reason but then they want to live in the same manner from whence left....Grrrrr

 

[SirRumpole]

You, and not me, we can't just ban Muslims noco. And we can't just let people in because they're Muslims either.

We don't need any more people per se. Wages are stagnant which means there is an oversupply of labour. We have stacked the place to the rafters and people can't afford houses. Enough.

 

[noco]

Listen to this link.

 

[luutzu]

Yes we can ban Muslims and we can stop further entry...This out country and they should live as we live...If the ones here can't assimilate, abide by our laws and send their kids to state owned schools, then they do not deserve to be here....They leave their own country because they are suppressed or for some other reason but then they want to live in the same manner from whence left....Grrrrr

People can't just abandon their language and culture like they shed clothing. As long as they practises don't harm anyone... that's what freedom is right?

 

[luutzu]

We don't need any more people per se. Wages are stagnant which means there is an oversupply of labour. We have stacked the place to the rafters and people can't afford houses. Enough.

It's not overpoulation that causes that. It's economic policies.

 

[Tisme]

Some of us might believe that Islam and Muslims are harmful. I don't think that kind of simple measure are true. There are plenty of psychos and moochers from other races and other religions too... in fact, it's the mooching and terrorism that defines who's the moochers and who's the terrorists... not religion or ethnicity.

In fairness you are using a political method for argument there luutzu. Two wrongs do not make a right.

It's fairly obvious there is a lot of appeasement by whitey going on, for fear of harm from Muslims. I's further obvious that Muslims present a clear danger of radical human behaviour or susceptibility to the suggestion of righting perceived wrongs with murder.

That other arse4o1es exist doesn't forgive the base terrifying treatment of man, woman and child by card carrying Muslims doing their God's dirty work. If they aren't representative Muslims, I haven't heard of any repudiation from the true believers.

Any chance you are living your demons vicariously through any war scarred migrants that arrive here, instead of discriminating between compatible cultures?

 

[luutzu]

In fairness you are using a political method for argument there luutzu. Two wrongs do not make a right.

It's fairly obvious there is a lot of appeasement by whitey going on, for fear of harm from Muslims. I's further obvious that Muslims present a clear danger of radical human behaviour or susceptibility to the suggestion of righting perceived wrongs with murder.

That other arse4o1es exist doesn't forgive the base terrifying treatment of man, woman and child by card carrying Muslims doing their God's dirty work. If they aren't representative Muslims, I haven't heard of any repudiation from the true believers.

Any chance you are living your demons vicariously through any war scarred migrants that arrive here, instead of discriminating between compatible cultures?

I thought that when the majority of Muslims in Australia and the West not committing terrorism or rape or marry multiple wives... maybe that's their way of repudiating whatever it is that those terrorists and rapists are doing right? No? They're just in the planning phase?

We're all human McGee. Cultures are somewhat over-rated. They're just habits and will slowly fade away, leaving each with that human traits of trying to advance their lot, find love and happiness or get married then put food on the table

Society are governed by rewards and punishment, says Han Fei Tzu (). You reward and people follow; you punish and people stop doing stuff. Hence, it is somewhat alright to bomb and wage wars in 8 Muslim countries, making the lives of poor Arab peasants a living hell, that's somewhat acceptable to the world... but when you outright ban the rights of the rich and more privileged Arabs from those countries to travel, that's just too much.

 

[SirRumpole]

it is somewhat alright to bomb and wage wars in 8 Muslim countries, making the lives of poor Arab peasants a living hell,

OK to condemn the West's involvement in the ME. I contend that the object of this involvement is to restore law and order and worry about the rights and wrongs later.

What about the Muslim v Muslim Iran - Iraq war ? 1.5 million dead poor Arab peasants, ok by you ?

 

[Tisme]

I thought that when the majority of Muslims in Australia and the West not committing terrorism or rape or marry multiple wives...

We're all human McGee..

Some are more human/humane than others.

20 years ago I would have scoffed at second gen Australians terrorising the world in the name of a sky fairy, but guess wot, a constant watch and vigil is now in place because of the real existential threat.

When a religion demands obedience in the face of physical and cohort harm, the vulgar reality of barbarity within believers will show it's hand. You may not be susceptible to control, but these people are in a constant state of subliminal readiness for instruction and mark my words they will turn on community and polite society if their oracles demand it.

 

[luutzu]

OK to condemn the West's involvement in the ME. I contend that the object of this involvement is to restore law and order and worry about the rights and wrongs later.

What about the Muslim v Muslim Iran - Iraq war ? 1.5 million dead poor Arab peasants, ok by you ?

The object is what? Law and order?

Come on SirR. Next you're going to tell me that we're there so that Arabs can all live well and be rich and have democracy.

I'm a Lefty, so why would any war be alright by me?

The only war that can be justified are defensive ones. And you cannot say that we go fight them there so we won't have to fight them here at home. Not when you're the mightiest military and economic power the world has ever known and they are some third rate power.

So when China is at our gates, you have my permission to go kick its azz. Just that me and my family and those who look Chinese would be behind some fence in the outback somewhere.

 

[luutzu]

Some are more human/humane than others.

20 years ago I would have scoffed at second gen Australians terrorising the world in the name of a sky fairy, but guess wot, a constant watch and vigil is now in place because of the real existential threat.

When a religion demands obedience in the face of physical and cohort harm, the vulgar reality of barbarity within believers will show it's hand. You may not be susceptible to control, but these people are in a constant state of subliminal readiness for instruction and mark my words they will turn on community and polite society if their oracles demand it.

I guess Tink and Australians of genuine faith are right to worry about the country going secular and forgetting God and religion.

I mean, if we're ever attacked or invaded, how could we ever be roused to anger and find the courage to go defend our country if God's no longer in our lives.

Nice trolling McGregor.

 

[SirRumpole]

The only war that can be justified are defensive ones.

Perhaps the Brits have a different view after being saved by the Yanks who were not being attacked by Germany ?

 

[noco]

People can't just abandon their language and culture like they shed clothing. As long as they practises don't harm anyone... that's what freedom is right?

That is where you are wrong Luu...The Muslim practices are harming our people and our society...Surely you can understand that?

 

[luutzu]

Perhaps the Brits have a different view after being saved by the Yanks who were not being attacked by Germany ?

The Third Reich is slightly more powerful than ISIS and a handful of Arabs on pickups. At least wait until they got a proper Airforce, Navy and I don't know... some sort of military industrial complex to build that arsenal of Jihad.

The Yank didn't come into WW2 to save Britain though. They were just lending the Poms this and that at very high interests, all to keep Hitler away for a while. Then when it look as though England is going to join France and most of Europe in the new 1,000 year Reich, the Yanks were fine with that too.

Then Pearl Harbour happen, then England managed to stave off the Luftwaffe while Hitler pick fights with Stalin and create enemies everywhere.

It was at that stage that China says, alright Chins, let's go get ourselves a couple of disputed seas... wait, i'm skipping ahead

It was at that stage that the Yanks thought to come on in and get all that war booties and remnants of the once great and mighty British and German and European empires.

That and for democracy and liberty, of course. And yes, to also save the Jews that they turned back from their shores.

 

[SirRumpole]

The Third Reich is slightly more powerful than ISIS and a handful of Arabs on pickups. At least wait until they got a proper Airforce, Navy and I don't know... some sort of military industrial complex to build that arsenal of Jihad.

I hope you are joking.

 

[luutzu]

That is where you are wrong Luu...The Muslim practices are harming our people and our society...Surely you can understand that?

All religious nuts are harmful to a civil society noco. That includes Muslim nutjobs as well as other religious fanatics.

When people break the law and commit crimes and act of terrorism, we have law to deal with that. No one says it's fine and good as long as your religion permit it.