Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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I find that meme kind of confusing.
When you think back to our "ancestors", Crimes such as Blasphemy were punishable by death, they obviously were not immune to being offended by words or images, and were far more likely to ban books etc or punish people for the use of swear words and the like.
Excelleng posts. You obviously have had good experience in working with people sociological l.
Exactly Tisyou. Could not agree more.
Crims make a choice. Just like raising kids you give them the benefit of the doubt first time, apply some gravitas punishment the second time and third time WWIII erupts.
It's all well and good proposing we all take a equal share hit from the deliberate criminal behaviour of the few, but why should we stall our civilised pleasures because of the few ... that is what middle eastern, african and oriental peoples do and they are tragic examples of go nowhere cultures with the constant sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.
How many people need to be mugged, raped, permanently damaged and scarred before we are supposed to say that the tribe can no longer function and the poison must be removed? Of course you don't ask a social worker, that would require risking loss of job as the need dried up.
People are stunned to learn that the head of the U.S. CIA is a Muslim!
Do hope this wakes up some!
You mean until it hits you like a ton of bricks read it again, until you understand!
We now have a Muslim government.
John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia.
Obama's top adviser, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.
Hillary Clinton's top adviser, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim.
Homeland Security Adviser, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim.
Obama adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim.
Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim..
Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.
1/13/15:?? Nancy Pelosi announced she will appoint Rep Andre Carson, D-Ind, as the first Muslim lawmaker on the House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. It would make Carson the first Muslim to serve on the committee that receives intelligence on the threat of Islamic militants in the Middle East! He has suggested
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always pays to check snopes before getting on the fascist band wagon:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimgovernment.asp
Having said that I'm fairly sure the Labor Party will install a gay Muslim female disabled person to head up it's public service when elected.
this initial post did not sound that great indeed, but I really like bellenuit sharia polls input.always pays to check snopes before getting on the fascist band wagon:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimgovernment.asp
Having said that I'm fairly sure the Labor Party will install a gay Muslim female disabled person to head up it's public service when elected.
Sam Harris, spot on as usual
Sam Harris on CNN: "When cartoonists draw the wrong cartoon and embassies start burning,
we criticize the cartoonists and the newspapers that printed the cartoons, and we practice self-censorship...
this is the bigotry of low expectations."
“It’s gross! It’s racist!” exclaimed Ben Affleck on Bill Maher’s Real Time in October 2014, interrupting the neuroscientist “New Atheist” Sam Harris. Harris had been carefully explaining the linguistic bait-and-switch inherent in the word “Islamophobia” as “intellectually ridiculous,” in that “every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims as people.” The result: progressives duped by the word shy away from criticizing the ideology of Islam, the tenets of which (including second-class status for women and intolerance toward sexual minorities) would, in any other context, surely elicit their condemnation.
Unwittingly, Affleck had confirmed Harris’ point, conflating religion with race. In doing so, the actor was espousing a position that can lead to a de facto racist conclusion. If you discount Islamic doctrine as the motivation for domestic violence and intolerance of sexual minorities in the Muslim world, you’re left with at least one implicitly bigoted assumption: the people of the region must then be congenitally inclined to behave as they do.
There was a disturbing irony in Affleck’s outburst. Few public intellectuals have done as thorough a job as Harris at pointing out the fallacies and dangers of the supernatural dogmas of religion, for which far too many are willing to kill and die these days. An avowed liberal (who plans to vote for Hillary) Harris is the author of, among many books, the groundbreaking The End of Faith. Yet Affleck seemed predisposed to regard him with hostility, possibly because Harris, at least for some on the Left, has acquired a toxic reputation ”” one stemming from what amounts to a campaign of defamation involving, by all appearances, a willful misrepresentation of his work, plus no small measure of slipshod “identity politics” thinking.
Harris has been lambasted as, among other things, a “genocidal fascist maniac” advocating “scientific racism,” militarism, and the murder of innocents for their beliefs, as well as racial profiling at airports, a nuclear first strike on the Middle East, plus, of course, Islamophobia and a failure to understand the faiths he argues against. (This is just a partial list.) The result? Harris has had to take measures to ensure his personal security, with negative ramifications in almost every area of his life. “I can say that much of what I do,” he told me in a recent email exchange, “both personally and professionally, is now done under a shadow of defamatory lies.”
The attacks against Harris have emanated predominantly from a prominent yet persistent handful of supposed progressives (and their peons), among whom are the religion scholar and media personality Reza Aslan, and the journalists from The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald (famed for transmitting Edward Snowden’s NSA revelations to the world) and Murtaza Hussain. Lately, with Harris’ publication of Islam and the Future of Tolerance, they have even taken aim at his coauthor and friend, the onetime Islamist turned reformer Maajid Nawaz.
Nonetheless, Harris’ own words, conveyed through his books, podcasts, blog posts, interviews, and Twitter feed, bely the attacks, which can be as mean-spirited as they are groundless and muddled. They have tainted the debates we need to conduct about Islam and terrorism in particular, but, more generally, the danger religious fundamentalism poses to our constitutionally secular republic and to the largely post-Christian countries of Western Europe now confronting huge inflows of Muslim migrants. The sum effect is to leave us all less well-off, less safe. And certainly more confused.
The charge of insufficient religious expertise is the least substantial, but nonetheless worth dispensing with, given that it could potentially be leveled at any nonbeliever disagreeing with faith’s precepts. In a 2007 debate, for instance, Reza Aslan accused Harris of having a “profoundly unsophisticated” view of religion, and of relying on Fox News as his “research tools” – an assertion that can be disproved by just opening The End of Faith, a meticulously compiled treatise with 237 pages of text (in the paperback edition) followed by sixty-one pages of footnotes and twenty-eight pages of bibliography listing some six hundred sources. In this opus, Harris walks us through the many follies of faith (mostly Christianity and Islam), but one key message transpires: belief guides behavior. A self-evident proposition no reasonable person would argue with.
Which has not stopped Reza Aslan from doing just that. Writing in relation to Harris’ skirmish with Affleck, Aslan has stated that religion “is often far more a matter of identity than it is a matter of beliefs and practices” and that “people of faith insert their values into their Scriptures,” with other, often contingent factors causing them to act as they do. So when ISIS guerrillas behead their captives, justifying their bloodshed by proclaiming jihad and citing verses from the Quran, by Aslan’s definition we cannot blame the doctrine of jihad or the contents of Islamic scripture, but must seek out other motives. This is prima facie obfuscatory, because it involves discounting the testimony of the perpetrators themselves.
The “genocidal fascist maniac” moniker was born of a certain @dan_verg_ on Twitter (account since suspended), and retweeted by Reza Aslan and Glenn Greenwald. The tweet misquoted, without context, a line from Harris’s The End of Faith: “Some beliefs” ”” “propositions” in the original ”” “are so dangerous that it may be ethical to kill people for believing them.” Which suggests Harris might endorse the death penalty for thought crime.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/university-professor-hacked-to-death-in-bangladesh-by-islamist-militants-20160423-godoa9.html
a religion of peace being applied...
Free Speech and Islam ”” In Defense of Sam Harris
Wasn't Bangladesh that place that needed humanitarian relief, like forever? They took western dollars and used it to populate and propagate hate for their benefactors.
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