Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[Tisme]

Sadly, I think you are probably right. Just look at Britain. Even a Conservative government hasn't got the guts to do anything about it, and even appoints a Muslim Minister of the Interior who wants a "fairer and more compassionate" immigration system (ie, more of his religious mates).

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-fairer-more-compassionate-immigration-system

Apparently 40% of migrant crimes are carried out by the 1%, which means 60% of migrant crimes are carried by the other 99%?

 

[luutzu]

Apparently 40% of migrant crimes are carried out by the 1%, which means 60% of migrant crimes are carried by the other 99%?

Don't think you can interpret statistics like that McGee.

 

[Tisme]

The Muslims upset at people driving on Ramadan Holiday in Birmingham England.

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[SirRumpole]

The Muslims upset at people driving on Ramadan Holiday in Birmingham England.

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As a former NSW Premier said to a former US President, "run the bastards down !".

Self defense could legitimately be claimed if some where knocked down by a vehicle trying to escape.

 

[moXJO]

That story was a fake.

Football Fans Vandalism Video Being Shared As Muslims Rioting In Birmingham

 

[moXJO]

Google is censoring content and webpages. Double check with bing or duckduckgo

 

[wayneL]

Google is censoring content and webpages. Double check with bing or duckduckgo

Alarmingly so. Often innocuous content that just doesn't fit the narrative.

It's interesting that there are now serious efforts to find and support viable, less censorious platforms.

 

[Tisme]

That story was a fake.

Football Fans Vandalism Video Being Shared As Muslims Rioting In Birmingham

So what left hand drive city did they riot in?

 

[Tisme]

anyone know what sentence the grub, Mustafa Kayirici got?

 

[SirRumpole]

anyone know what sentence the grub, Mustafa Kayirici got?

Still on trial I believe.

 

[Tisme]

Argument includes women's right to wear whatever they want in public, but of course they isn't really true in reality because even Oz has minimum standards.

Denmark bans the burqa, Pauline Hanson renews bid to criminalise face-veil in Australia
Ellen Whinnett and Annabel Hennessy in Copenhagen, Denmark, News Corp Australia Network
July 7, 2018 10:00pm


DENMARK has become the latest country to ban the burqa, as a push to outlaw face-covering Islamic garments worn by women and teenage girls gathers pace across Europe.

At least 10 European countries have now introduced full or partial burqa bans, as Senator Pauline Hanson launches a new bid to have the face-covering garment banned in Australia.

Many of the countries are democracies similar to Australia with similar social policies, including Denmark, Belgium, France, the Netherlands and Norway.

One Nation’s Senator Hanson returned last month from a visit from France, where the burqa is

banned in public, and announced she would renew her bid to criminalise the wearing of a burqa in Australia.

Senator Pauline Hanson announced she would renew her bid to criminalise the wearing of a burqa in Australia. Picture: Gary Ramage
While Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has ruled it out, several Liberal and National MPs told News Corp they were privately supportive of the move. Some individual Australian magistrates have taken action against women who refuse to show their faces in court.

“This isn’t something that should be controversial. All over the world countries are taking action,” Senator Hanson said last week.

“This is about national security … also, many women are forced to wear the burqa by their male family members and this measure will help free those women from this oppression.”

In Denmark, Justice Minister Soren Pape Poulsen described burqas and face-covering niqabs as “incompatible with Danish society and disrespectful to the community,’’ as the parliament voted to introduce fines of around $213 for those wearing the garments in public.

“With a ban on covering the face we are drawing a line in the sand and underlining that in Denmark we show each other trust and respect by meeting face-to-face,’’ he told the media.

The move came despite estimates only around 30 women in the country completely cover their faces.

Critics of the burqa ban say governments should not be involved in telling women what to wear. Picture: Ella Pellegrini
The Scandinavian nation has followed France, Belgium, Austria and Bulgaria in banning the burqa. There are partial bans in the Netherlands, Norway and regional bans in parts of Spain and Italy. In Switzerland, the district of Ticino has introduced bans in public areas, and the country is preparing a referendum on a proposed national ban.

Even Germany, the European nation which most enthusiastically welcomed Muslim migration when it opened the doors to one million refugees in 2015, has expressed concern, with Chancellor Angela Merkel urging people to “show your face’’ and saying the burqa “should be banned.’’

Bill Shorten calls Pauline Hanson's Burqa stunt 'A dumb distraction'
German drivers have been banned from wearing the burqa, as have women working in the public service, judiciary or the military.

In Canada, the province of Quebec banned women wearing burqas from accessing services or

holding down government jobs, to the displeasure of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. It was the first western democracy outside Europe to implement such bans.

The move to outlaw the garment is usually justified by politicians on security grounds, and comes off the back of growing uneasy at the scale of migration from Muslim countries.

Supporters of bans say burqas oppress women and girls, limit normal human interaction, and pose a security threat.

Critics say governments should not be involved in telling women what to wear, and that forcing them to uncover could result in some women being socially isolated and unable to go out in public.

Copenhagen mother-of-three and student Sarah said the niqab gave her “empowerment”. Picture: Ella Pellegrini
Danish Muslims told News Corp the ban was an attack on their freedom and claimed it would incite more violence in the community against them.

Copenhagen mother-of-three and student Sarah, who asked for her last name to be withheld, has been wearing the niqab — the veil that covers the entire face except for the eyes — for more than 10 years and vowed to defy the ban.

“I won’t stop wearing it, because I feel like this is a very unjust ban and it’s a discriminatory ban and I feel like this is just the beginning of bans,” she said.

Danish-born to Muslim parents, Sarah said the niqab gave her “empowerment”.

“I feel very strong when I wear the niqab, I feel like a strong connection to God,” she said.

She said she thought the proposed ban was unconstitutional and contradictory to Danish values

which emphasise freedom and religious choice.

German drivers have been banned from wearing the burqa, as have women working in the public service, judiciary or the military. Picture: AFP
Sarah is one of a group of local Muslim women who have formed a group Kvinder I Dialog — Women in Dialogue — an organisation protesting the ban.

She estimated only about 30 women covered their face in Denmark.

“We’re really like a minority within a minority,” she said.

Annette Bellaoui, a 59-year-old chef in Copenhagen, converted to Islam 19 years ago, covers her hair but not her face, and said she too opposed the ban.

“Personally I’m vehemently opposed to face coverings, I absolutely hate it, I detest it. I think it’s a vile violation of Islam,” she said.

“There’s nothing in Islam that says anything about covering your face and I think it is a dismissal of your identity as a person.

“On the other hand if you want to wear it that’s alright by me, I’m very much in favour of personal freedom.

“I would rather die than wear it, but I should not prevent you from wearing it if that’s what you want.’’

Mother-of-two Line Kuhre said she thought the decision to wear a face-veil should be respected. Picture: Ella Pellegrini
Non-Muslim Danish people who spoke to News Corp were divided on the ban. While some said the veils made them personally uncomfortable, many said they were concerned about the government dictating what people wear.

Mother-of-two Line Kuhre said she thought the decision to wear a face-veil should be respected.

“I think a lot of people wear it because they want to wear it and I think that should be respected,” she said.

But Vadna Rasmussen, 63, said he thought the veil was a sign some women hadn’t assimilated into Danish society.

“I think ‘why do you not live like everyone else here’?,” he asked.

“It’s a pity for the women. Why do they have to cover their faces?”

“I think (the Danish people) support the decision. We don’t want women to hide their faces. That’s the official opinion.”

Vadna Rasmussen, 63, said he thought the veil was a sign some women hadn’t assimilated into Danish society. Picture: Ella Pellegrini
Algerian businessman Rasheed Nekkaz said he had created a $1.2 million fund to pay the fines for any women who were fined in Denmark.

Mr Nekkaz said he had already paid 1,538 fines for women in France, Belgium, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Austria, and Germany.

“It is very important for me to be able to give European governments the message on restricting freedom that they can’t just do whatever they want,” he said.

“If there is a veil ban in a country on those who want to wear them, I will be the one paying their fines.”

Terror-plagued France was the first western European country to outlaw the wearing of the burqa in public in 2010, as part of a ban on face-coverings including balaclavas and hoods. The government backed this up with fines of $240 for those caught wearing it, and $47,000 fines and one-year jail terms for anyone convicted of forcing a woman to cover up.

The ban was upheld by the European Court of Human Rights in 2014, which rejected claims by UK civil rights lawyers that it went against freedom of thought, conscience and religious freedom.

In Canada, the province of Quebec banned women wearing burqas from accessing services or holding down government jobs. Picture: AFP
Belgium, which like France has been hit by a string of terror attacks carried out by Muslim men, also banned the burqa in 2011. The European court once again upheld the ban after a legal challenge last year. Those caught in public wearing a burqa face fines of $2100 or a week in jail.

In the Catalonia district of Spain, including Barcelona, burqa bans were introduced in 2010, but overturned by the Spanish courts in 2013. Some local districts still apply bans in public place such as municipal buildings.

Italy also has regional bans in place, with the town of Novara, near Milan, restricting face-covering in public.

Some countries have partial bans, such as the Netherlands, which first moved in 2015 to ban women and girls covering their faces in public buildings such as schools, hospitals and on public transport.

This ban came into effect last month.

Turkey, with its 99 per cent Muslim population, has by comparison loosened restrictions on the wearing of face-covering, although some bans remained.

While Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has ruled it out, several Liberal and National MPs told News Corp they were privately supportive of the move. Picture: AFP
The secular nation and world’s largest Muslim democracy used to ban face-coverings in all public institutions, but as the country began to adopt a more Islamic operating structure, women were allowed to wear headscarves and face-coverings everywhere except when working in the military, as police officers, or in the judiciary.

Most women do not cover their faces or hair in Turkey.

Austria introduced nationwide bans on burqas last year, as part of a suite of laws aimed as

“integrating’’ Muslim immigrants into the community.

Bulgaria in eastern Europe banned the burqa in 2016, and Norway, in Scandinavia, last year moved for a partial bans outlawing the face-covering in kindergartens, schools and universities.

Several African countries also outlawed the burqa, including Chad and Cameroon and the Republic of Congo, which all moved in 2015 for bans following deadly suicide attacks by terrorists.

Niger has banned it in the Diffa region, where the evil Islamist group Boko Haram operates, and often uses women and girls as suicide bombers.

UK Prime Minister Theresa May said she would not ban the burqa. Picture: Getty Images
UK Prime Minister Theresa May bucked the trend by saying she would not ban the burqa. Opinion polls were divided, showing 50 per cent support for such a move.

An academic who studies the impact of the bans said there was no evidence they reduced the terror threat level.

Nilufar Ahmad, a senior lecturer at Swansea University in the UK, said face-covering was a “legitimate concern’’ but the bans simply demonised Muslim communities, particularly Muslim women.

“We are social beings and rely on facial cues for communication. We are not used to not seeing faces,’’ Dr Amhad told News Corp.

“But just because it makes us feel uncomfortable, do we have a right to say that they cannot do it?

“Banning the burqa will do nothing to minimise terror threat… Muslim women have not been the perpetrators of violence, so a ban that affects them makes no sense.’’

Dr Ahmad said the increasing move to ban burqas across Europe was not aimed at Muslims, but rather politicians sending a message to Right-wing elements of society.

“It’s an easy win for policy makers,’’ she said.

“We are in the midst of a growing Right-wing presence across Europe and witnessing xenophobia and a dangerous nationalism that we haven’t seen since the Second World War.’’

Dr Ahmad said only a tiny number of women wore burqas or niqabs in places such as Denmark and the Netherlands, and “for this reason the cost, publicity and time required for legislation doesn’t make sense - surely there are other public priorities?’’

 

[noirua]

Is it Islam causing all this, a deeper thinking evil new branch of Islam or terrorists using the name of Islam? Whether using the name of Islam or not it becomes a branch of Islam and therefore Islam itself becomes evil, or maybe not?

 

[dutchie]

Equality according to the left

 

[Tisme]

Equality according to the left

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The imbecile "left" are being groomed into Islam ... get used to the idea....... Cassius Clay was the great breakthrough moment.

 

[Tisme]

 

[Tisme]

Interesting conversation with someone in the know who reckons African natives are sponsor migrating to Oz under the premise they are persecuted Christians, the children are enrolled in christian schools only to reveal, after a settling in period, they are Muslims. Clever sting if it's true.

 

[moXJO]

So here's a story:
Guy and his wife (both sjws) want to ride around the world on bicycles and show that "there is no such thing as evil in the world". Apparently the pair of dkheads were Obama worshippers.

So they decide its probably a good idea to peddle through Isis territory.
Anyone thats traveled to shtholes will tell you that life is cheap and education is minimal. This pair must have been living in a bubble.

As expected Isis runs them down in a car then jump out and stab them to death.
Their blog is here:

http://www.simplycycling.org/blog/2016/10/6/a-bike-ride-around-the-world

 

[Tisme]

So here's a story:
Guy and his wife (both sjws) want to ride around the world on bicycles and show that "there is no such thing as evil in the world". Apparently the pair of dkheads were Obama worshippers.

So they decide its probably a good idea to peddle through Isis territory.
Anyone thats traveled to shtholes will tell you that life is cheap and education is minimal. This pair must have been living in a bubble.

As expected Isis runs them down in a car then jump out and stab them to death.
Their blog is here:

http://www.simplycycling.org/blog/2016/10/6/a-bike-ride-around-the-world

Griswalds reality

 

[Tisme]

Wonder where your missing pet went?

"So yesterday 21/08/2018 marked the start of Eid Al-Adha or the Festival of Sacrifice as it is known in the English language. For four days countless amounts of animals across the world will now be slaughtered with no pre-stun and will suffer an horrendous death as they slowly bleed out from their sliced throats.

A little known fact for most westerners, those that take part in The Hajj (the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that must be carried out at least once in the lifetime of a muslim) will end their pilgrimage by carrying out the religious slaughter of an animal themselves. They will get to know the feeling of slicing the throat of a living animal and causing it to suffer.

Eid Mubarak to you all."

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[macca]

It is statements like this that cause concern

<<This dispute has lead Dr Kara-Ali to say “my religion comes before any governance>>

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...nvironment-court-tree-clearing-muslim-charity