Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[newanimal]

Saudi Arabia will execute 'atheist for insulting the prophet'

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-will-execute-atheist-insulting-prophet-1619153

Forgiveness and the Golden Rule (do unto others...) doesn't seem to be part of their program. Essentially I'd call this satanism.

 

[Tisme]

Interesting how the trajectories of the Greens and militia Islam track each other.

 

[bellenuit]

Forgiveness and the Golden Rule (do unto others...) doesn't seem to be part of their program. Essentially I'd call this satanism.

No, that would be misleading. They are following the tenets laid down by their deity as espoused by the prophet Mohammed.

 

[newanimal]

No, that would be misleading. They are following the tenets laid down by their deity as espoused by the prophet Mohammed.

yes I know. I should clarify, the spirit behind these tenets is satanic in nature IMO.

 

[basilio]

Interesting how the trajectories of the Greens and militia Islam track each other.

Really ???

Why don't you tell us how you see this particular event having a similar trajectory for the Greens ?

 

[Tisme]

Really ???

Why don't you tell us how you see this particular event having a similar trajectory for the Greens ?

Mate, I think our tete a tetes are over, don't you? Sadly I will chalk it up as a win for blue-pencilling.

 

[luutzu]

Saudi Arabia will execute 'atheist for insulting the prophet'

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-will-execute-atheist-insulting-prophet-1619153

 

[cynic]

Forgiveness and the Golden Rule (do unto others...) doesn't seem to be part of their program. Essentially I'd call this satanism.

It looks, to me, more akin to a zealous expression of HolierThanThouism.

However, it could be argued that HolyThanThouists, are deceiving themselves , and as such, are (unwittingly) honouring the Prince of Lies and Darkness.

 

[newanimal]

Don't know much about Islamic doctrine per se, but there seem to be variations flavors and practice. Many adherents to Islam around the world and US seem to be living by a prescribed code of ethics and morality.
The radical brand (beheadings, oppression of women, etc.) would seem to come straight from the book of demons. Independent thinking and questioning one's inherited belief system doesn't seem to be their strong suit.
Unfortunately, the former group is getting a bad rap due to the latter group AND western propaganda
IMO.
Personally, I'm not much into doctrines and belief systems and go for enlightenment practices leading to awakening of consciousness and the heart. Keeping living codes simple, kindness, compassion, humility, etc. I wish more people on the planet would do the same, but I wouldn't want to behead anyone that didn't agree.

 

[bellenuit]

The radical brand (beheadings, oppression of women, etc.) would seem to come straight from the book of demons.

No, again this is misleading. These unsavoury aspects of Islam come straight from the Quran itself and are the prophet's interpreting the will of Allah, so it is wrong to ascribe them to Satan or demons.

The Quran contains both good and bad passages when it comes to morality. One of the many problems with Islam is that instead of confronting what is bad in Islam and making changes, many chose to simply deny what the Quran says.

 

[newanimal]

Bellenuit, respectfully, I don't think you're getting my meaning. I believe you that these unsavory aspects are straight from the Quran itself. Haven't read it but I'll take your word for it. No attempt to deny the bad passages or let the Quran off the hook here. I'm simply saying that I believe the "prophet" was demonically influenced in his interpretation. I do not believe that such horrific atrocities would be commanded or instructed from a high or ultimate spiritual source if you will. This is very barbaric **** here. If you don't personally believe in non physical dimensions or realities that may act upon or influence humanity, we'll have to disagree on that point. As far as I'm concerned, you can burn the damn book. Just don't tell any extremist morons I said so. Thank you

 

[SirRumpole]

No, again this is misleading. These unsavoury aspects of Islam come straight from the Quran itself and are the prophet's interpreting the will of Allah, so it is wrong to ascribe them to Satan or demons.

Muhammed claims the archangel Gabriel gave him his teachings. Anyone could claim that, even a demented person, so I don't know why millions choose to believe him.

 

[luutzu]

No, again this is misleading. These unsavoury aspects of Islam come straight from the Quran itself and are the prophet's interpreting the will of Allah, so it is wrong to ascribe them to Satan or demons.

The Quran contains both good and bad passages when it comes to morality. One of the many problems with Islam is that instead of confronting what is bad in Islam and making changes, many chose to simply deny what the Quran says.

So these idiots lopped of people's head "for Allah". That's bad, I mean that. It's screwed up.

But have you seen what else they, and our great protector, have also been doing in Yemen?

They've droned, bombed, destroy all infrastructure, blockade the entire country, starving its people, causing the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world right now - and that's really bad seeing what's goign on in the world. etc. etc.

And those aren't done for Allah. It's for money and grand strategy.

But I guess it's nice to see "Christian" bombs and technology working hand in hand with Islam extremism of the good kind.

 

[newanimal]

So these idiots lopped of people's head "for Allah". That's bad, I mean that. It's screwed up.

But have you seen what else they, and our great protector, have also been doing in Yemen?

They've droned, bombed, destroy all infrastructure, blockade the entire country, starving its people, causing the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world right now - and that's really bad seeing what's goign on in the world. etc. etc.

And those aren't done for Allah. It's for money and grand strategy.

But I guess it's nice to see "Christian" bombs and technology working hand in hand with Islam extremism of the good kind.

Right. Yemens a good point. Notice that it's being blacked out of MSM and our attention is being distracted by same old kabuki theater dramas i.e. Rusky influence on US politics while Yemens plundered as a rich oil source and poor farmers are being genocided.

 

[luutzu]

Muhammed claims the archangel Gabriel gave him his teachings. Anyone could claim that, even a demented person, so I don't know why millions choose to believe him.

Same reason they chose to believe the bastard son of a carpenter is the son of God.

In that old Hollywood-ish movie on Muhammed, I think they explained it that he must have spoken to Gabriel because what he wrote is so beautiful and profound.

That him being an almost illiterate merchant for most of his life; with no formal education... he could not possibly have written but transcribe from a god.

 

[newanimal]

No, again this is misleading. These unsavoury aspects of Islam come straight from the Quran itself and are the prophet's interpreting the will of Allah, so it is wrong to ascribe them to Satan or demons.

The Quran contains both good and bad passages when it comes to morality. One of the many problems with Islam is that instead of confronting what is bad in Islam and making changes, many chose to simply deny what the Quran says.

Bellenuit-- just reread that post (mine) and it suddenly morphed. I see how it could be interpreted the way you did. I feel duty bound to retract my being overly critical of your reply and to keep Zeus appeased. But the clarification of my intended meaning holds. just sayin

 

[cynic]

So these idiots lopped of people's head "for Allah".

That's just the excuse they gave themselves, but not the true reason why they acted so!
From what little I have seen of english translations from the Quran, they could have just as easily, justified a more amicable response.

That's bad, I mean that. It's screwed up.

I am tempted to agree, but as has been suggested by another, it may prove prudent not to tell them so.

 

[newanimal]

That's just the excuse they gave themselves, but not the true reason why they acted so!
From what little I have seen of english translations from the Quran, they could have just as easily, justified a more amicable response.

Probably true. What does that say about the individuals or groups who choose that response... very disturbing

 

[newanimal]

Moving from extremist fundamentalist morons practicing overt evil, to a psychopathic liar practicing a more deceptive covert form... Bibi cries wolf again and again and again. Hey, why not challenge one's conditioned beliefs-- give a de-propagandized version a fair hearing. This guy's best friend lost his life leaving wife and kids fatherless fighting not for the interests of the American people, but as an American attack dog for Bibi.

 

[luutzu]

That's just the excuse they gave themselves, but not the true reason why they acted so!
From what little I have seen of english translations from the Quran, they could have just as easily, justified a more amicable response.
I am tempted to agree, but as has been suggested by another, it may prove prudent not to tell them so.

We little people can tell them, they won't care. It's big titled politicians who can't tell them... it'd be rude. Can't chastise people and take their people's money at the same time, can we? Definitely can't do it and force them to buy your arms and hardware. Manners are very important.

That and you have to let them play their games so that one day in the future, God forbid, they don't listen... you add them to that Axis of Evil list and liberate the crap out of their oil.