Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

Most of the refuges seem to "keep the faith" once they escape from the nasty Muslims.

Maybe they are so brainwashed that they don't know any better, but we really don't need brainwashed potentially dangerous people here.

It is one gigantic planned invasion of the West..They know what they are doing/

 

[noco]

Iman Shaikh Mohammed Tawhidi has had to go into hiding with police protection to save him from being beheaded.....What sort of a country are we now living in?

Freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!!!!...forget it...we have lost our rights.

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[Tisme]

So these nonsense about one side is more superior than the other, more culturally superior... tell that to people who don't know history, or observe the world and its people.

So why do you always take a fractious contrary stance against Christianity, western roots, WayneL and Australia's endemic personality in favour of everything Chinese if it isn't you displaying your cultural superiority?

 

[luutzu]

So why do you always take a fractious contrary stance against Christianity, western roots, WayneL and Australia's endemic personality in favour of everything Chinese if it isn't you displaying your cultural superiority?

I'm not Chinese. My great great great grandfather was Chinese, married a Viet some time between the Second Opium War, ahem, and the fall of the Last Emperor.

But I didn't get into Chinese history and philosophy because of that small heritage. It's all because there weren't any English translation of VNese history and philosophical works for me to read. Something I'm sure to fix once those millions roll in though

And no, I didn't show you how the Chinese invented every useful thing long before the Europeans [] to show "our" or my cultural superiority. It's to show an example of another culture I know a fair bit about also contributing to human progress and civilisation.

That we all learn from, stole from, stands on the shoulders [or throats] of other cultures.

Saw an interview with former CIA-Analyst and peace activist, apparently such people do exist, telling how he often ask his students what's the anagram of "indispensable"... Dispensable.

The US [and the West] call itself the "indispensable" nation. What does that imply about other nation and civilisation? They're all dispensable?

Other nations and cultures wouldn't like to hear that too much if they weren't also busy patting themselves on the back about themselves too.

 

[noco]

Iman Shaikh Mohammed Tawhidi speaks his mind on Islam...He has no tolerance for radicalization and is very clear...If Muslims cannot abide by Australian laws and our way of life then they should return to their Muslim country of origin......

Is it any wonder he now fears for his life?

 

[Tisme]

Saw an interview with former CIA-Analyst and peace activist, apparently such people do exist, telling how he often ask his students what's the anagram of "indispensable"... Dispensable.

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I'm guessing you meant "antonym" ?

I still think you are a Chinaphobe, however you do display the great Oz trait of knocking fellow Australians.

 

[Tisme]

Iman Shaikh Mohammed Tawhidi speaks his mind on Islam...He has no tolerance for radicalization and is very clear...If Muslims cannot abide by Australian laws and our way of life then they should return to their Muslim country of origin......

Is it any wonder he now fears for his life?

Trouble is he still parades an Islamic uniform and his words may well be a trojan horse.

You don't see Chinese migrants wearing their silk PJs enmasse everywhere they go?

 

[luutzu]

I'm guessing you meant "antonym" ?

I still think you are a Chinaphobe, however you do display the great Oz trait of knocking fellow Australians.

Yes, that, antonym, or whatever is the reverse of.

It's Sinophile. Chinaphobe sounds like someone who fear China.

And no, I don't knock fellow Australians. I knock everyone equally. It's one of those traits you pick up growing up among the White barbarians and their intellectual tradition of laughing at stupid nonsense.

 

[Tisme]

Yes, that, antonym, or whatever is the reverse of.

It's Sinophile. Chinaphobe sounds like someone who fear China.

And no, I don't knock fellow Australians. I knock everyone equally. It's one of those traits you pick up growing up among the White barbarians and their intellectual tradition of laughing at stupid nonsense.

That's the spirit. You are definitely ockerfied.

 

[luutzu]

That's the spirit. You are definitely ockerfied.

Not completely there yet.

Isn't the test for that be where I'd have to laugh and poke fun at the Viets and Asians? Not for political office and financial gain, but just for kicks.

You know, like a true blue Aussie poking fun at the whinny poms.


Here's an Irish joke I heard from that same Ray McGovern.

His grandfather, who was Irish, once ask young Raymond if he know why the sun never set on the British empire.

Why granddad?

Because God don't trust the poms in the dark.

 

[Tisme]

Not completely there yet.

Isn't the test for that be where I'd have to laugh and poke fun at the Viets and Asians? Not for political office and financial gain, but just for kicks.

You know, like a true blue Aussie poking fun at the whinny poms.


Here's an Irish joke I heard from that same Ray McGovern.

His grandfather, who was Irish, once ask young Raymond if he know why the sun never set on the British empire.

Why granddad?

Because God don't trust the poms in the dark.

You don't do it for anything but that you can. Politics, race, religion, financial gain, political office are just props for the initiation.

 

[luutzu]

You don't do it for anything but that you can. Politics, race, religion, financial gain, political office are just props for the initiation.

It's great isn't it. To be able to crack wise and not get disappeared.

See, this is why the Chinese are more effective than the West... hehe... They just indoctrinate their masses into servile worshipping of the elders and their God Emperor. So the plebs do as they're told without ifs and buts.

Whereas Western civilisation, for some reason, have this individualistic attitude and democracy, questioning authority business. It led the masses astray in demanding more and more freedom and equality and rights. Then the state have to go to the trouble of paying off the likes of Murdoch and other consultants to whip hope and independence and rationality out of the great unwashed.

Say what you will about the Chinese, they know how to cut out the middle man.

 

[SirRumpole]

See, this is why the Chinese are more effective than the West... hehe... They just indoctrinate their masses into servile worshipping of the elders and their God Emperor. So the plebs do as they're told without ifs and buts.

Sounds like Islam doesn't it ?

 

[luutzu]

Sounds like Islam doesn't it ?

Yes. But with nukes and a proper military.

And that, to steal a phrase from Rob Frost, makes all the difference.

It differentiates between good and evil; "trading partner" or colony; it mean a token role in a Hollywood movie as a hero or a terrorist.

Saw Kong: Skull Island recently. I don't think that Chinese girl could fire that M16 and not hurt herself.

 

[wayneL]

It's great isn't it. To be able to crack wise and not get disappeared.

See, this is why the Chinese are more effective than the West... hehe... They just indoctrinate their masses into servile worshipping of the elders and their God Emperor. So the plebs do as they're told without ifs and buts.

Whereas Western civilisation, for some reason, have this individualistic attitude and democracy, questioning authority business. It led the masses astray in demanding more and more freedom and equality and rights. Then the state have to go to the trouble of paying off the likes of Murdoch and other consultants to whip hope and independence and rationality out of the great unwashed.

Say what you will about the Chinese, they know how to cut out the middle man.

Only those from the center and center right. The left (and the way the **** extreme right) curiously seems to yearn for the Chinese model.

 

[Tisme]

 

[luutzu]

Only those from the center and center right. The left (and the way the **** extreme right) curiously seems to yearn for the Chinese model.

There's no Left or Right really. There's just the ruling class and the rest.

In quite a few of his work, Chomsky references the Trilateral Commission - consisting of a bunch of future Carter Admin advisors, you know, "Lefties". btw, Murdoch was backing Carter with his papers when he first got to the US; and for that support he got quite a few favours.

Anyway, there was this Trilateral Commission consisting of the best and brightest of men trying to figure out what's wrong with the US in the late 50s and early 60s.

Their conclusion was that there's a "Crisis of Democracy". What is that? Not enough people turning in on politics? They're too lazy and too drunk to care about the country's politics?

Nope. There's just too much democracy. The stupid masses somehow think they own the place or something. With all the protests against the war; the civil rights movement; the push for clean air and water, protecting the environment... Houston, we got ourselves a crisis of democracy.

So what are we to do about it? Can't crack their skull because too much freedom and liberty have been won by them.

A clear example of what was planned to solve this crisis was in the Powell Memorandum - written by the eventual US High Court Justice Powell to the Business Council - when he was consulting to them.

One is too much freedom because the media and their cameras show too much truth.

Then there's just too many free stuff with good wages, leading to too many unburdened hippies. i.e. get rid of union; remove free education; get them into massive debt.

But most important, the institutions "responsible for the indoctrination of the young" are failing our business community. Too many hippies teaching the kids how to think and all that.

We know what was done since.


So there's just the masters up top; the masses at the bottom. And all these Left/Right, race, religion, us vs them nonsense... it's just divide to rule and conquer.

Same story in China, Russia, western "democracies"...

 

[wayneL]

There's no Left or Right really.

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Ignoring the verbose convolution, and recognising a substantive overlap, bullsh1t.

 

[luutzu]

Ignoring the verbose convolution, and recognising a substantive overlap, bullsh1t.

OK then.

Just ask any business executive, anywhere in the world, who they donate to.

Beside a handful of die hards, most donate to both sides of politic.

Why do you think Bill Clinton and Obama put Goldman Sachs people into high places? The same as Bush the Elder, the Younger, and Trump the Yellow Emperor.

 

[wayneL]

and recognising a substantive overlap, l.

Read up Grasshopper

But, as far as business is concerned, the motive is profit, they will support whomever satisfies that short term imperative.