ok your argument hammered me. But Im still going to believe in god.
But you have to admit that we don't know all the answers to life. We don't even know how the universe came to exist. Where did the matter even come from.
Well my dads friend offered me to take me to church on sunday. He wants to re kindle the relationship between me and god.
Ill go with an open mind and if nuthing else hopefully thete will be some babes there haha
Well my dads friend offered me to take me to church on sunday. He wants to re kindle the relationship between me and god.
Ill go with an open mind and if nuthing else hopefully thete will be some babes there haha
A large proportion of their strength and leadership quality comes from the fruitful supply of well qualified recruits from middle class backgrounds from entrenched Islamic positions in Europe , Australia and elsewhere, anxious to do battle and qualify to enter paradise by killing infidels.
Air attacks can't stop them, and Obama's and Abbott's blather about bolstering the Iraqi army to beat them is just pie in the sky. Aad now Obama is asking a compliant Abbott to increase our "boots on the ground" contribution
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PS: and if I'm right, please do take this as a lesson about the media wanting to scare you to sell papers...
The way I look at it is the substitution test:- pick your ancesteral allegiance and wonder how you would behave if it were under siege and at risk of cultural loss?
Who is under siege and who is at risk of cultural loss? Surely you can't mean the IS. Or do you mean the Islamists who have become entrenched in Western countries?
I think it would be an error to apply western ethics/morals/norms to a middle eastern culture. They are not the same and many do feel their faith and homelands are under attack by foreign aggression/influence. e.g. Saddam Hussein might have been a tyrant, but he was their tyrant, if you get my drift.
Thirteen Arrested as 500 Police Storm Mosques and Homes in Austria Counter-Terror Raids
Thirteen people suspected of recruiting fighters for radical Islamic groups in the Middle East have been arrested by police in Austria, who stormed mosques and homes in a cross-country dawn raid on Friday.
Around 500 officers were involved in the arrests in Vienna, the southern city of Graz and Upper Austria province, which follows two years of surveillance of the suspects.
The arrested individuals were also being investigated for helping to finance the Islamic State, according to local media.
Austrian privacy laws prevent suspects from being named; however, media reports pointed to a Vienna-based Bosnian preacher as the main suspect.
He was among those taken into custody following the raids which began at 4am.
https://news.vice.com/article/thirteen-arrested-as-500-police-storm-mosques-and-homes-in-austria-counter-terror-raids
MUHAMMAD has become the most popular name for newborn boys in the UK
Nah. The apologists for religion here will assure you that groups like ISIS are just using Islam as an excuse to become men in black, wave a black flag, blow themselves and others up , chop off some heads and gain fame on YouTube. You just can't believe what they say about their own motives and justifications (Islam and the Koran) because they are essentially lying about this and/or they should just be dismissed as extremists. This is really a faith position based on a clear denial of reality, there is no hard evidence provided for this viewpoint just the absurd notion that a religion like Islam in its various guises and with its various interpretations just can't be the prime causative or motivating factor behind the behavior of Muslims (not real Muslims anyway).It seems like wherever Islam goes, so do extremists and nutters. Religion of peace? No, it is not!
for this viewpoint just the absurd notion that a religion like Islam in its various guises and with its various interpretations just can't the prime causative or motivating factor behind the behavior of Muslims.
Once again you make this assertion without evidence. If you chose to actually believe what they say over and over again about their motives (something you simply refuse to do because it debunks your unsubstantiated theory) then you might have some real insight as to what motivates the vast majority of these people - their religion.It may well be a motive for some, but for others it's adventure, excitement, greed, lust and psychopathy.
This conclusion is simply a non-sequitur, we are talking about groups like ISIS not every "fricking" Muslim.We've been through all this before, if religion was the prime motivation for slaughter then every fricking Muslim would be in Syria fighting for the cause.
One must make one of two choices when confronted by ISIL, fight and possibly live or just be slaughtered. Negotiation about whose version of Islam is correct is not an option. Surely even you can appreciate this.Why are so many of them NOT there , and why are other Muslim states fighting ISIL ?
then you might have some real insight as to what motivates the vast majority of these people - their religion.
I would have though most people over the age of 12 would realise that what we get in the media is - at best - a tiny and very subjective piece of the picture.
True enough, we don't hear much of what is going on in Somalia, Nigeria, Kenya until it affects us, but that's a pretty normal human trait. We don't hear much about the poor of Estonia or drug abuse in Amsterdam either.
If we had all the ills of the world rammed down our throats every day people would start complaining that the press is Lefty biased, and why don't we get more stories about how Christopher Pyne wants to create a bold new tertiary education system, full of opportunity for low income earners.
Every country will have some poor people. Why have you picked out Estonia? It's one of the most forward thinking, flourishing European countries, particularly given its fraught history with Russian invasion etc.We don't hear much about the poor of Estonia
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