Ann I capped my "Not Accurate" comment after some thought. In my mind it was least inflammatory way of responding to your suggestion that environmentalists wanted to destroy all coal fired power stations (immediately ?) and send us into the dark ages. As I said, it seems to be one of the grossly exaggerated "talking points" used by CC deniers to misinfirm people.
basilio, Coal fired power emits CO2. CO2 is being blamed for the "catastrophic" "global warming". Tell me why GW Environmentalists would not want coal fired power plants phased out as soon as possible?
With regard to the lies /misrepresentations on The Great Swindle. The issues I pointed out were recognised within days of the doco being broadcast. They were already understood. That is why some of the most dishonest statements were withdrawn or adjusted. The point about these lies is their reflection on the people who made the doco and the sources they used to try and say GW " wasn't happening, or wasn't serious and in any case it's The Sun".
So if the sun is not responsible for heating the earth where else do we get our heat from? Let's hypothetically say the sun shot off into space never to be seen again, how long would earth remain warm and alive?
Ann it was you who introduced the doco as a great example of true sceptical science. I wonder if you have reconsidered your views after considering the misrepresentions made in the doco ?
basilio, I do not accept that there were misreprentations. That implies intent to decieve, I will leave that up to the GW political parties in environmental clothing to do the deceiving, strong arm tactics and battering with explosive and dramatic behaviour is your department.
Science moving ahead ? Absolutely since 2007 world temperatures have increased by about .3C . That is HUGE in terms of its effect on cities, eco systems, Greenland/Antartica. I wonder climate change denial sources have to say about these events?
Do you want colder winters (in the Northern Hemispehere) Ann ? Well CC could certainly bring that about - while still cooking the rest of the globe. But that is one of the potential consequences of abrupt climate change.
Actually, you know basilio, I think you accidentally explained the whole question of climate change with that previous graph you linked to accidentally without taking the time to see what you were actually linking to, a graph of planetary orbits. It is lock step with low temperatures from the forties rising to the high temperature of 1999, then a quick dip and then a rapid rise back forming a double top and then a falling away until the temperature may rise to equal levels in 2059. Well done basilio, you have just sorted what causes climate change on earth......planet orbitalization.
...and for those who missed this great graph....
I have read the above, the skeptical science thread at the top is authored by an anonymous guest contributor which I will totally ignore for the anonymous junk it is. However below that in the same thread is a very eye catching piece of propaganda from Sarah Finnie Robinson, more on Ms Robinson later.
basilio, I see you posted on the Science thread yesterday. I feel it would have been better placed here, however I guess down the track if anyone found it you could say.....ah yes I already posted that! Just not where it really should be......
Quote from Science thread from yesterday posted by basilio
Scientists acknowledge key errors in study of how fast the oceans are warming
A major study claimed the oceans were warming much faster than previously thought. But researchers now say they can’t necessarily make that claim.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ener...st-oceans-are-warming/?utm_term=.8c0aeadc8bb8
It is post #540 from yesterday if the copied link doesn't work. I tried to cut and paste the link to the Washington Post but it is a locked link and only those with a subscription can copy the link. I guess you must have a subscription to the Washington Post basilio. It sort of feels a bit deceptive to put up a link here today about rising ocean water temperatures when you had already put a link elsewhere saying the opposite was true yesterday.
Finally folks, you just need to see this bit of massive, loud, bold, advertising agency style generated propaganda. Note the wording ...."97% of
published climate papers agree. (They won't publish too many papers that don't agree with their projected theory.) Global warming is happening - and we are the cause". This was brought out by the Consensus Project.com. A group from Boston University institute for Sustainable Energy. Which no doubt owes its existance from subsidies to the university.
This poster is not the behaviour of scientists but of political interest groups.
The lady who posted this advertising billboard on the skeptics site is Sarah Finnie Robinson. An academic? No. She is a journalist. Certainly a part of the propaganda machine.
Sarah Finnie Robinson is an investor in large-scale climate solutions and founding partner of WeSpire, a Boston tech firm that powers sustainability programs at F500 corporations. She is active on the Climate Task Force for Boston Harbor Now. She serves as a judge for MIT’s Climate CoLab “Shifting Behaviors & Attitudes” track; advises the Metcalf Institute for Environmental Reporting at the University of Rhode Island; and supports Ceres and the Environmental Defense Fund. She is a Climate Reality Leader and mentor, and she advises Kripalu Center for Yoga & Health. Robinson also serves on the board of the Princeton78 Foundation, whose endowment fuels undergraduate service projects in the United States and around the world. She holds a B.A. from Princeton, an M.A. from the Bread Loaf School of English at Middlebury College, and she graduated with the inaugural class of Seth Godin’s altMBA in 2015.
Robinson began her career at The New Yorker and continued at The Atlantic and at iVillage, where she was the launch content director. She blogs on HuffPost, Medium, and mindbodygreen. Her current project is a curated digital showcase to identify and share standout communications to engage and accelerate broad public support for the global clean-energy transition now underway.