Is Global Warming becoming unstoppable?

[Knobby22]

It's bs. If we keep immigration up then we will never hit the target. It's next to impossible. We are one of the fast growing nations in terms of immigration.

I thought we could double our way out to lower per capita. But it's based on 26% below 2005 levels. Immigration is going to make it near iimpossible to meet that target.

Building new homes and everything that comes with that means emissions are going up. It's either going to mean super high electricity prices and other strict restrictions to meet targets. We are talking in the vicinity of 50% per person over the next decade years.

Better we start to engage with Asia. Screw Europe. I don't think it's possibly unless we see tech advances.

We are going to get a bit screwed upgrading the grid but seriously this will happen and faster than you think.
Just need a bit of infrastructure planning which is finally happening.

 

[Investoradam]

It's bs. If we keep immigration up then we will never hit the target. It's next to impossible. We are one of the fast growing nations in terms of immigration.

I thought we could double our way out to lower per capita. But it's based on 26% below 2005 levels. Immigration is going to make it near iimpossible to meet that target.

Building new homes and everything that comes with that means emissions are going up. It's either going to mean super high electricity prices and other strict restrictions to meet targets. We are talking in the vicinity of 50% per person over the next decade years.

Better we start to engage with Asia. Screw Europe. I don't think it's possibly unless we see tech advances.

If there was any truth to this crap fingers would be pointing at China, India etc that they are not! Period
Only countries like Australia

You cannot make this **** up and People are so gullible and stupid to the concept

they want to be rich and everyone else poor paying for it

Mean while

 

[rederob]

building new replacing old so still keeping coal as a main source of power yet Australia can’t!
Only a muppet can’t work out the hypocrisy of it all and how usless and a scam the green

The reason Australia is so high in per capita emissions compared to China is because Australia was industrialised many decades ago, while China remains a developing nation. I realise this is not an idea you can come to grips with.

Showing no signs of slowing down! Nearly 1/3 of the worlds total and keep climbing yet the west needy to stop eating beef as the cows farting is the problem!

As I have often said, the west has sent its manufacturing to China which equates to significant CO2 being offshored. Interestingly, however, is the fact that Chinese manufacturing is now state of the art and actually uses much less energy now to make the same products.

Learn some history of communism and Lenin he referred to you lot as “useful idiots” educated idiots who think they are intelligent it’s the simple of the most stupid!

I guarantee you have never read Das Kapital, and have no idea what Leninism involved, which makes you the perfect useful idiot in trying to deride those ideologies.

 

[wayneL]

I guarantee you have never read Das Kapital,

Perhaps your only credible post to date in a sort of backhand way.

IOW, it is almost certain that you *have read Das Kapital (inter alia)... In fact, probably studied it deeply.

 

[basilio]

More news about glaciers in East Antartica now. This is an area so far not recognised as a potential near term contributor to global warming.
That may be about to change.

Giant canyon discovered underneath Vanderford Glacier in Antarctica, revealing history behind rising sea levels​

By political reporter Henry Belot
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The canyon extends at least 3.5km underneath the glacier.(ABC News: Pete Harmsen)
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Australian Antarctic expeditioners have discovered an enormous, two-kilometre-deep canyon underneath a glacier that may make it more vulnerable to warming oceans.

Key points:​

• The voyage leader says the canyon may be allowing warming waters to get underneath the glacier
• The discovery also indicates the Vanderford Glacier once extended 60km further than it currently does
• Satellite data indicates the surface height of the Vanderford Glacier has shrunk by about two metres since 2008

The discovery also indicates the Vanderford Glacier in East Antarctica once extended 60km further than it currently does and had a significant role in rising sea levels.
Voyage leader Lloyd Symons said the canyon extended at least 3.5km underneath the glacier, which might be influencing how quickly the ice was melting.
"The fact that there is such a deep canyon beneath this glacier would perhaps allow the possibility for warming waters to get underneath the glacier," Mr Symons told the ABC.

"One of the issues for Antarctic glaciers at the moment is them being eaten away from underneath by warming waters coming down from the north."

The Southern Ocean circulates warming waters from around the world, pushing them deep towards Antarctica where they lap against the colder ice.

Giant canyon discovered underneath Antarctic glacier, adding to history of rising sea levels

Australian Antarctic expeditioners have discovered an enormous, 2-kilometre-deep canyon underneath a glacier that may make it more vulnerable to warming oceans.

www.abc.net.au

 

[basilio]

At the risk of learning something new . check out this story on how CC is rapidly regreening the Arctic. What are the implications of a rapidky warming Arctic region on the environment, the people, the ecosystems ?

Fascinating.

Reindeer pulling sleighs in Breivikeidet, Norway. Photograph: Morten Falch Sortland/Getty Images
The long read

‘The treeline is out of control’: how the climate crisis is turning the Arctic green​

In northern Norway, trees are rapidly taking over the tundra and threatening an ancient way of life that depends on snow and ice

‘The treeline is out of control’: how the climate crisis is turning the Arctic green

The long read: In northern Norway, trees are rapidly taking over the tundra and threatening an ancient way of life that depends on snow and ice

www.theguardian.com

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting article

Catch 2050: Demand for solar panels presents 'global warming risk' through raw material production

The global community will need almost 60 times more solar power to reach net zero emissions by 2050, but the emissions-intensive aluminium required to do so presents an environmental risk, a new study has found.

www.abc.net.au

From the article:
"Australia is actually the largest producer of bauxite, and one of the largest producers of alumina — so there's a real opportunity for Australia to play a big role in this growth of renewable energy."

The study revealed that for the global community to reach net zero by 2050, about 60 terawatts of solar power along with 480 megatons of aluminium would be required.

Currently, there is 0.8 terawatts, or 800 gigawatts of solar available globally.

 

[Investoradam]

The reason Australia is so high in per capita emissions compared to China is because Australia was industrialised many decades ago, while China remains a developing nation. I realise this is not an idea you can come to grips with.

As I have often said, the west has sent its manufacturing to China which equates to significant CO2 being offshored. Interestingly, however, is the fact that Chinese manufacturing is now state of the art and actually uses much less energy now to make the same products.

I guarantee you have never read Das Kapital, and have no idea what Leninism involved, which makes you the perfect useful idiot in trying to deride those ideologies.

But but but if we don’t act now the world will end says mr Schwab!

so you think that Mother Nature or climate change or (insert new name) cares if China is still an emerging economy?

yes I have read enough on Lenin and communism and know allabout how propaganda works! You clearly don’t!
I mean how many times do they want to change the narrative and shift the goal posts and the useful idiots keep believing it

 

[rederob]

so you think that Mother Nature or climate change or (insert new name) cares if China is still an emerging economy?

Most of the world's populations belong to developing or undeveloped nations and their shares of CO2 are all rising as they attempt to modernise. You conveniently neglect the fact that most G20 nations have offshored significant production to China and that this production is now much less carbon intensive than from where it originated.

yes I have read enough on Lenin and communism and know allabout how propaganda works! You clearly don’t!

Lenin had no interest in propaganda.

I mean how many times do they want to change the narrative and shift the goal posts and the useful idiots keep believing it

The narrative has not changed for 4 decades so what are you talking about?

 

[basilio]

Interesting article

Catch 2050: Demand for solar panels presents 'global warming risk' through raw material production

The global community will need almost 60 times more solar power to reach net zero emissions by 2050, but the emissions-intensive aluminium required to do so presents an environmental risk, a new study has found.

www.abc.net.au

From the article:
"Australia is actually the largest producer of bauxite, and one of the largest producers of alumina — so there's a real opportunity for Australia to play a big role in this growth of renewable energy."

The study revealed that for the global community to reach net zero by 2050, about 60 terawatts of solar power along with 480 megatons of aluminium would be required.

Currently, there is 0.8 terawatts, or 800 gigawatts of solar available globally.

It's an excellent story. I have to say the headline is misleading. All the way through the article the opportunities for using green energy as the source for aluminium smelting is spelt out. And finally the solar energy industry itself is a small part of the aluminium industry.

I reckon this story will be co-opted by the usual suspects to diss solar panels as causes of more global warming. Just use the headline

 

[Investoradam]

Most of the world's populations belong to developing or undeveloped nations and their shares of CO2 are all rising as they attempt to modernise. You conveniently neglect the fact that most G20 nations have offshored significant production to China and that this production is now much less carbon intensive than from where it originated.

what like building hundard's of new coal fired power stations that will have some 50/60 year life span?
but but but its autralian cows farting that are are causing climate change.
if renawables were so good they would be building them instead of hundard's of new coal fired power stations

so chinas omissions sky rocket but Australia who's omossions are dropping must act to save the world while the major omitters are ignored!
LMAO

Lenin had no interest in propaganda.

FFS! Lenin was Mr Propaganda. LMAO!
there was a reason why he referred to you leftists as useful idiots. so limited that you think your intelligent. yet so limited you dont realize how limited you lot are

The narrative has not changed for 4 decades so what are you talking about?

remember the green house effect, ozone layers, global warming, global cooling, climate change etc

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This week Myron Ebell (director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the Competitive Enterprise Institute) and Steven J. Milloy published a post on the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) blog titled “Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions:” Modern doomsayers have...

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the scaremongering is nothing more than a way to control government, industry globalization & control of the worlds wealth.
basicaly they want to be rich and you poor! do they care about you no

 

[rederob]

so chinas omissions sky rocket but Australia who's omossions are dropping must act to save the world while the major omitters are ignored!
LMAO

Australia's emissions are about twice China's per capita and still you claim the high ground!

the scaremongering is nothing more than a way to control government, industry globalization & control of the worlds wealth.
basicaly they want to be rich and you poor! do they care about you no

The evidence on climate change is available to everyone so what are you claiming?
Your posts are mostly nonsensical and there is nothing you have said in this thread that suggests you know anything about the topic.

 

[Investoradam]

Australia's emissions are about twice China's per capita and still you claim the high ground!

The evidence on climate change is available to everyone so what are you claiming?
Your posts are mostly nonsensical and there is nothing you have said in this thread that suggests you know anything about the topic.

No! You keep missing the point and attempting to take the higher ground and going around in circles!

China are building hundreds of brand new coal fired power stations and already omit nearly one 3rd of the worlds total! So when they are completed this will sky rocket! Yet yet cows farting in Australia are the issue

there was any truth to the climate change China would not be doing this. They would be using nuclear or going and pay more attention to nicola teslas idea of kinetic energy from magnets

No they aren’t they are digging endless more toxic materials from the ground polluting and destroying the land with these usless windmills and solar panels. Your on a stock market forum and clearly have nfi how any of the monotony flows works or about any politics


Climate change has nothing to do with the environment! It is to control a nation’s industry and wealth

 

[rederob]

there was any truth to the climate change China would not be doing this. They would be using nuclear or going and pay more attention to nicola teslas idea of kinetic energy from magnets

If you knew anything about this topic you would know that China building more new nuclear plants than any other country.

No they aren’t they are digging endless more toxic materials from the ground polluting and destroying the land with these usless windmills and solar panels. Your on a stock market forum and clearly have nfi how any of the monotony flows works or about any politics

You are in General Chat and you have shown no ability to make a valid point on climate.

 

[Investoradam]

If you knew anything about this topic you would know that China building more new nuclear plants than any other country.

You are in General Chat and you have shown no ability to make a valid point on climate.

well you clearly dont!
FFS you dont even know a thing abourt Lenin!

they even tell you them self its not about the environment! muppet
no names on any propaganda papers, defecters who leave the united nations speak out its a scam, the mob attemot to cancel them.
its nothing to do about the environment its abut power. they want to be rich at your expense! you think you are going to be joining them at the seat of this degenerate leftist utopia?
not a chance



IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer, speaking in November 2010, advised that: “…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth...”

In Their Own Words: Climate Alarmists Debunk Their 'Science'

It is way past time to realize that none of this is really about protecting the planet from man-made climate change. It never was.

www.forbes.com

As an estimated 400 private planes flew into Scotland this weekend for the COP26 UN Climate Summit in Glasgow, with Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, Prince Charles, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and US President Biden in the fleet, the world leaders are being slammed for the excessive use of private transportation while they tout efforts to lower carbon emissions.

World leaders slammed for taking private planes to UN climate summit

As an estimated 400 private planes flew into Scotland this weekend for the COP26 UN Climate Summit in Glasgow, with Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, Prince Charles, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and U…

nypost.com

 

[rederob]

IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer, speaking in November 2010, advised that: “…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth...”

In Their Own Words: Climate Alarmists Debunk Their 'Science'

It is way past time to realize that none of this is really about protecting the planet from man-made climate change. It never was.

www.forbes.com

Do you also belong with the idiot conspiracy theorists who also believe the moon landing was fake?
You will find your quote was debunked in an earlier post of mine to the forum years ago.
Is there anything you do know about climate?

 

[Investoradam]

Do you also belong with the idiot conspiracy theorists who also believe the moon landing was fake?
You will find your quote was debunked in an earlier post of mine to the forum years ago.
Is there anything you do know about climate?

Thank you for not addressing the post like usual!
How’s it a conspiracy when it’s coming straight from the mouth of the IPCC.

then you have this private conference of the worlds elite that all turn up in there private planes then only to lecture us about saving the environment!

keep the tin foil cap on dude

 

[Investoradam]

Mickey Mouse the climate scientist!
Really

‘Mickey Mouse’ scratched from 11,000 scientists declaring global climate crisis - National | Globalnews.ca

The scientists behind the letter say a few "invalid" names among the 11,000 signatures do not diminish their very real warning.

globalnews.ca

 

[rederob]

Thank you for not addressing the post like usual!
How’s it a conspiracy when it’s coming straight from the mouth of the IPCC.

Read the thread title and you might work out why your off topic remarks don't get answered.
As for your quote, it was a fabrication, but you don't seem to know anything about climate so I guess you were unable to work it out.

 

[Investoradam]

Read the thread title and you might work out why your off topic remarks don't get answered.
As for your quote, it was a fabrication, but you don't seem to know anything about climate so I guess you were unable to work it out.

lol
run Muppet run
found out wanting on every post and never anwer one direct question!
remember the worlds going to end if we dont act now and end out omissions?
but climate change is racist and only applies in white western countries?
its ok that an asian countries omits nearly 1/3 off the worlds total and amount is sky rocketing at an alarming rate. but Australian cows are the issue!

the IPCC even admit its a hoax and nothing to do with the environment!
but its all conspiracies