wayneL
VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!
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Even in combination it's still not viable for baseload power.It's the combinations. No wind usually sunny. Tidal generation is now becoming economic also. The currents keep flowing.
And coal needs to be saved for future generations who will be smarter and the future belongs more to them than us hascoudabeens.
Even in combination it's still not viable for baseload power.
If we want to replace coal, and I do think it is a good idea for rreasons other than CO2,emissions, we're going to have to go nuclear or think of something different.
Battery storage is the weak link. If we can solve that conundrum, then it could work.I do not agree, nuclear is expensive to get going and years of work to be started. Solar, wind and battery storage science is advancing at a wonderful rate to meet all our needs soon and if the fkn guvnuts gave subsidies to renewables as they do to coal we'd be there now.
Many countries almost have it and we have much more sunshine here. Its been calculated that windmills and solar panels across the Great Australian Bight could supply eight times our needs. And we also have the desert country.
https://www.clickenergy.com.au/news-blog/12-countries-leading-the-way-in-renewable-energy/
Battery storage is the weak link. If we can solve that conundrum, then it could work.
Like I've said before I have a client with an interesting technology, but at this point, we don't have good enough *sustainable storage solutions.
Pumped hydro - there's a solution which works. All proven and very doable.Battery storage is the weak link. If we can solve that conundrum, then it could work.
Dear Wayne my benighted darling; Argue with the money, See how you go.
a simple cut and paste:
"0.4 euro
Nuclear energy averages 0.4 euro cents/kWh, much the same as hydro; coal is over 4.0 c/kWh (4.1-7.3), gas ranges 1.3-2.3 c/kWh and only wind shows up better than nuclear, at 0.1-0.2 c/kWh average. NB these are the external costs only."
When you've got that math to work shuffle off to Cannon-Brookes and save his bacon and his billion$$..
More difficult though may be an understanding of 4th generation fast reactor design's ((they involve science) real science)). and a knowledge of where they are under construction and their progress(over the decades)...Ahh Oak Ridge Thorium and the good old'e days, So much promise so little plutonium...
I'd love few things more than my tax going into any one of a number of these loss/leading concepts. Seriously something good may come of it.
But with the 'backwater boy's of the LNP'??? your hav'n a laugh...
I just find it sad, that there it has to be so black or white, a person is either an absolute believer and treats it as a religion, otherwise they are classed as a denier.An alarmist is what a denialist calls a realist.
A denialist is what an alarmist calls a skeptic.
Don't you love English.
Why not revert to what the science shows and stop your malarkey because it's folk like you that help perpetuate the myth that what is happening is somehow "religious."I just find it sad, that there it has to be so black or white, a person is either an absolute believer and treats it as a religion, otherwise they are classed as a denier.
I guess perception management companies, find that works best?
The church has been using the same ploy for centuries, you are a believer, or you go to hell.
Rob I know you are passionate about it and your self belief is unshakable, but it doesn't make you 100% correct in everything you quote.Why not revert to what the science shows and stop your malarkey because it's folk like you that help perpetuate the myth that what is happening is somehow "religious."
Nothing requires that you believe anything, but if you choose not to understand something and then claim that what you do not understand is something other than what it really is, then you are just adding another baseless opinion to the mix.
Who is denying warming? What is at issue is the attribution.The thread title really deserved to be
"Global Warming Denial is Unstoppable."
Lets not forget all those other threads where I was right and rob was oh so wrong.Rob I know you are passionate about it and your self belief is unshakable, but it doesn't make you 100% correct in everything you quote.
Just re read your posts in the Folau thread, to show that an absolute belief in an outcome, doesn't mean it will be so.
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