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Despite this ....

Trump likely will get elected 2020 ..... America is run by the few ...




Even this ....

Awful footage at 500 per pit .... 2 pits ... 1000 being buried




Not much makes the news




Then again WE .... Australia is NO better in some ways ...

Media ....



Then with 10 times as many cases...

Same thing ...




Jones who is a Murdoch media stooge ,,,, at best.
Science denier ...

Despite some things ... that would make a guilty Catholic priest blanch ... even on his Wikipedia page
John Howard ... fellow climate denier and Morrison's closest confidant ... gave him an AO ... Order Of Australia.

Morrison who took coal into parliament has had his values and beliefs ... on climate issues shaken to the ground. Fellow denier Andrew Constance member for Bega who wanted to debate climate science, well his views changed as Bega electorate was torched.

Morrison listened to science with CV19, Boris in the UK like Trump denied and acted late or not at all for Trump till March,

Morrison has done a good job. Credit where its due. Not so good on bush fires .... he will of course change as he still denied ... or disputed the fires went from bad, to well shocking.

With CV19 .... no issues. Little BS and well Trump.

Far out. Expecting the USA to change ? They all drink the same cool aid and thump their chest about USA and how good it is when Canada next door with 105 of the population will have adjusted for size likely 10% the cases and deaths.

No Trump . USA political system will not change overnight. Choices for 2020 are the same and Biden is a leader of donation driven corporate party and so too Trump,

I do not doubt in the future anger will replace the shock and fear for many in the USA and radical change will occur not in 2020 but 2024/

Another 4 years of Trump ? A man who scored his actions at 10 out of 10 ? When USA had done 2,000 tests for 329 million by March 2nd or 1% of Canada or Australia adjusted for population ?

Sadly, my question is will the world make it to 2024 ? Not CV19 , but Trumps need to cover up an event that could have been reduced by a lot. He now plans for the peasants to go back to work May 1st when two republican states Florida and Texas did not even enforce stay inside till April 4th.

These states, with barely any testing and well .... they dont care about the peasants, have infection rates 5 times Australia and with 3 weeks inside, all is fine !!

This too will be needed to be covered up and USA people distracted from what is an appalling result.
CV19 is NOT anyone's fault. How nations have dealt with it and Germany and their efficiency tested and contact traced and isolated .... like they would be expected. Others with social norms of kissing on cheeks which, NOT their fault ... spread it twice as fast so Italy and France and Spain ... it is what it is.

Calling it the flu as right wing cretins do, and still do whilst claiming science or their version of it is whatever you like. Trump only likes the 1% mortality rate and when say Italy of the serious infected and tested is around 11% ... France not far behind and those two normally ranked 1 and 2 globally for healthcare systems, heaven help the USA.

That in NY alone instead of 20 deaths at home are now 200 at home, not tested a day .... well ... we will never know.

Lets go back to work with no health insurance in the USA for most, and at $9- an hour to deal with the public.

Bravo .... Time will change the USA I have no doubt, and likely I expect Ivanka to be on the back to work Peasants USA team and well ... they dont isolate and have much chance of it not spreading for a second wave for the simple reason their LEADER ... is a MORON.

His mixed messaging and downplaying the virus whilst claiming USA is at war and victory was achieved at 15 cases and then 100 and NOW at 500k its safe ?

USA as a global leader has ended. Tolerance and not laughing outright was in the past Trump reign concealed, will not be the case going forward.

Empire USA is well .... over ... in its dying days with a sociopath in charge it sadly is possibly its most dangerous for its people and the rest of the world. That 100,000 people died in Yemen in 2019 alone under USA actions, this is a mere 5% of those in the middle east killed post 2003.

Be afraid. Sociopaths have no remorse or even understanding of it.
 
Saw this on Tumblr this morning. From Carl Sagan in 1995 when the the term "world wide web" would have just started slipping into the minds of most Americans. As general as it is, still quite prescient.
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kahuna1 said:
Despite this ....

Trump likely will get elected 2020 ..... America is run by the few ...




Even this ....

Awful footage at 500 per pit .... 2 pits ... 1000 being buried




Not much makes the news




Then again WE .... Australia is NO better in some ways ...

Media ....



Then with 10 times as many cases...

Same thing ...




Jones who is a Murdoch media stooge ,,,, at best.
Science denier ...

Despite some things ... that would make a guilty Catholic priest blanch ... even on his Wikipedia page
John Howard ... fellow climate denier and Morrison's closest confidant ... gave him an AO ... Order Of Australia.

Morrison who took coal into parliament has had his values and beliefs ... on climate issues shaken to the ground. Fellow denier Andrew Constance member for Bega who wanted to debate climate science, well his views changed as Bega electorate was torched.

Morrison listened to science with CV19, Boris in the UK like Trump denied and acted late or not at all for Trump till March,

Morrison has done a good job. Credit where its due. Not so good on bush fires .... he will of course change as he still denied ... or disputed the fires went from bad, to well shocking.

With CV19 .... no issues. Little BS and well Trump.

Far out. Expecting the USA to change ? They all drink the same cool aid and thump their chest about USA and how good it is when Canada next door with 105 of the population will have adjusted for size likely 10% the cases and deaths.

No Trump . USA political system will not change overnight. Choices for 2020 are the same and Biden is a leader of donation driven corporate party and so too Trump,

I do not doubt in the future anger will replace the shock and fear for many in the USA and radical change will occur not in 2020 but 2024/

Another 4 years of Trump ? A man who scored his actions at 10 out of 10 ? When USA had done 2,000 tests for 329 million by March 2nd or 1% of Canada or Australia adjusted for population ?

Sadly, my question is will the world make it to 2024 ? Not CV19 , but Trumps need to cover up an event that could have been reduced by a lot. He now plans for the peasants to go back to work May 1st when two republican states Florida and Texas did not even enforce stay inside till April 4th.

These states, with barely any testing and well .... they dont care about the peasants, have infection rates 5 times Australia and with 3 weeks inside, all is fine !!

This too will be needed to be covered up and USA people distracted from what is an appalling result.
CV19 is NOT anyone's fault. How nations have dealt with it and Germany and their efficiency tested and contact traced and isolated .... like they would be expected. Others with social norms of kissing on cheeks which, NOT their fault ... spread it twice as fast so Italy and France and Spain ... it is what it is.

Calling it the flu as right wing cretins do, and still do whilst claiming science or their version of it is whatever you like. Trump only likes the 1% mortality rate and when say Italy of the serious infected and tested is around 11% ... France not far behind and those two normally ranked 1 and 2 globally for healthcare systems, heaven help the USA.

That in NY alone instead of 20 deaths at home are now 200 at home, not tested a day .... well ... we will never know.

Lets go back to work with no health insurance in the USA for most, and at $9- an hour to deal with the public.

Bravo .... Time will change the USA I have no doubt, and likely I expect Ivanka to be on the back to work Peasants USA team and well ... they dont isolate and have much chance of it not spreading for a second wave for the simple reason their LEADER ... is a MORON.

His mixed messaging and downplaying the virus whilst claiming USA is at war and victory was achieved at 15 cases and then 100 and NOW at 500k its safe ?

USA as a global leader has ended. Tolerance and not laughing outright was in the past Trump reign concealed, will not be the case going forward.

Empire USA is well .... over ... in its dying days with a sociopath in charge it sadly is possibly its most dangerous for its people and the rest of the world. That 100,000 people died in Yemen in 2019 alone under USA actions, this is a mere 5% of those in the middle east killed post 2003.

Be afraid. Sociopaths have no remorse or even understanding of it.
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Given your terminology science deniers & rants about the Howard government one will automatically assume your an ignorant idiot
 
Investoradam said:
Given your terminology science deniers & rants about the Howard government one will automatically assume your an ignorant idiot
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Mate, you are entitled to your opinion on the subject.
How about you voice it rather than go down the denigrating path, especially if it's hit a chord/dis-chord in your outlook?
Please don't look at this as an attack, I would like to have your opinion on the table.:xyxthumbs;)
 
This kind of explains the current situation in the USA pretty well.

 
Bill M said:
This kind of explains the current situation in the USA pretty well.

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But Bill, simple facts are:
Black communities are poorer,
Black citizens are more involved in crime than others, probably due to the first fact.
Sad but is anyone contesting this?
As a result randomly controlling people and NOT controlling blacks more often would then voluntarily not applying law.they do that in France....
Is it sad for law abiding black citizen, yes of course.
But not doing it would discriminate against non black by targeting them more and letting crime go.
Stats can tell what you want them to say.
Context is everything.after we can add the
wall street are the real crooks blabla bla
Same at home with aboriginal overrepresentation in criminal system, or drug users...
do we really want 20pc of prisoners to be retired grannies because that is their share in society?
 
Shouldn't the President be looking for solutions? Instead he is making it worse.
Give them some hope. In reality he is working out ways to make it harder for them to vote and whipping up his sheep.
 
qldfrog said:
Is it sad for law abiding black citizen, yes of course.
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The problem is that the Police are so racist in the USA that it is beyond belief that it still goes on today. Each person should be treated the same but this is clearly not the case in the USA. This guy was just picking up rubbish outside his residence. Total unwarranted harassment and then when the white guy turned up he was not checked and everything was alright. When the government and their Police Forces **** on their own people then that's when the kind of riots we are seeing now happens. Enjoy the video.

 
qldfrog said:
But Bill, simple facts are:
Black communities are poorer,
Black citizens are more involved in crime than others, probably due to the first fact.
Sad but is anyone contesting this?
As a result randomly controlling people and NOT controlling blacks more often would then voluntarily not applying law.they do that in France....
Is it sad for law abiding black citizen, yes of course.
But not doing it would discriminate against non black by targeting them more and letting crime go.
Stats can tell what you want them to say.
Context is everything.after we can add the
wall street are the real crooks blabla bla
Same at home with aboriginal overrepresentation in criminal system, or drug users...
do we really want 20pc of prisoners to be retired grannies because that is their share in society?
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There is no logical equivalence between systemic inequality and morality.
Women doing the same work in Australia are paid less than men - that's a systemic issue.
Blacks being poorer in the USA is equally systemic.
Bleeding the air of another's life from their body without reasonable cause (given we are talking about what a police officer did) is morally reprehensible at every level.
What you have done is present a justification for immoral behaviours because you did not think through the meaning of your post.
 
Bill M said:
The problem is that the Police are so racist in the USA that it is beyond belief that it still goes on today. Each person should be treated the same but this is clearly not the case in the USA. This guy was just picking up rubbish outside his residence. Total unwarranted harassment and then when the white guy turned up he was not checked and everything was alright. When the government and their Police Forces **** on their own people then that's when the kind of riots we are seeing now happens. Enjoy the video.

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The riots are here because the left wants war with Trump, the cop involved there did a murder, i would not deny that, hundreds of people most of them not black are killed by police, often in imho not reasonable way.they were killed under Obama and the US was not in riots.
From memory, cops kill more than one person a day in the US, most of them once again, not black.
The problem is not black death, it is police death

Do you want to check how many people were killed in Australia by our police?
Police all over the world are turning into swat teams , and ours as well ,and are above the Law.
With technology now, if goverments want to, they can control this thru head cameras.but governments need to control the 99.9%, you me us
Police to control; hatred,races, left /right to divide and conquer.
The Bezos and Soros of the world , basically the Davos clique can be happy and sleep well while we fight Trump China or covid19,ourselves
Slaves and masters, and the puppets seem to be happy playing their roles.do not be fooled
 
Bill M said:
The problem is that the Police are so racist in the USA that it is beyond belief that it still goes on today. Each person should be treated the same but this is clearly not the case in the USA. This guy was just picking up rubbish outside his residence. Total unwarranted harassment and then when the white guy turned up he was not checked and everything was alright. When the government and their Police Forces **** on their own people then that's when the kind of riots we are seeing now happens. Enjoy the video.

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As much as I agree with you that police there are racists this video isn't a good example of it.

It was a random ID check which happens all the time where I live in Mt Druitt. It's compulsory to comply with it and if you've done nothing wrong you're on your way so who cares ?
That guy had his own reason to be obstructive and the aggro ensued. Most other people would've complied but this guy chose to be different and was therefore treated as such.

If anything, it's the video uploader who is using reverse racism because s/he is saying this only happened because the guy was black.

If you want to be like everybody else, then do it.
 
qldfrog said:
The riots are here because the left wants war with Trump
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George Floyd had nothing to do with any political movement, and the riots have occurred because of a continuing injustice which the President refuses to recognise after many days now.
It is a failure of leadership which did not occur under previous administrations.
qldfrog said:
The problem is not black death, it is police death
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Zero evidence, which is what you are good at!
qldfrog said:
Do you want to check how many people were killed in Australia by our police?
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How is that relevant?
qldfrog said:
Police all over the world are turning into swat teams , and ours as well ,and are above the Law.
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Sorry, policy are definitely NOT above the law: that thinking is what precipitated the US riots.
qldfrog said:
Police to control; hatred,races, left /right to divide and conquer.
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You have no idea what policing involves, do you. That's not the role of police at all!
 

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