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Gold Price - Where is it heading?

No sell signal generated on this yet. Just to take partial profits and look for re entry. Been long since entry signal given @ $2018!
 

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People are talking the Israeli attacks on Iran, Iraq and Syria down. Hawks are back in their cages.

For now.

gg
 
POG up some $570 since January.
Record closing price ends the week.
Middle east tensions likely to keep POG elevated, delaying the pullback which we would normally expect given the recent spike kicked of some 7 weeks ago.


EVN's quarterly report during the week highlights what is to come for the producers. In EVN's case, for example, their large margin was based on an AUD price that is currently about AU$500/oz less than POG's average price trending into this June quarter. With EVN proposing to knock out over 200koz on this quarter, that's going to deliver a lot more upside than we got from its March quarter result.
 


So this article surmised that the 'Whale' buying gold was China. Highlight mine.

No.

Far more of a bombshell:



The US Treasury.

You will need to re-read this post: https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/gold-price-where-is-it-heading.2366/page-750#post-1275016

Yellen needs a weaker USD. Weaker against what? China already floating CNY against gold.

Float USD against gold and have a weaker USD against gold, same as the Chinese.

The ultimate aim is CHEAPER OIL. Energy is the bedrock of the economy.

Which means there is now a TREASURY PUT on gold at $2400. Only 1 direction this goes now. LOL.

jog on
duc
 
If it is true that the UST is buying gold surreptitiously then it is not unreasonable to assume the following:

1. It is buying through a proxy so as to not cause a panic and so it can soak up as much gold as possible for the best price.
2. The gold buying in itself is a tacit admission that the fiat system is broken and the gold being bought is insurance against a paradigm shift in our conception of currencies, value and the mechanics of economic exchange.
3. We could be on the cusp of the greatest precious metals boom in history.

Of course, i am biased so take what I say with a large grain of salt but I feel like the wheels are finally wobbling on the clown car and we may well be heading towards a serious economic crisis that will make the GFC look like a walk in the park.
 
Good evening
Meant to post this article earlier ... but got tied up ... enjoy

Commodity markets perplexed why gold keeps going up​

Alex GluyasMarkets reporter AFR
Apr 19, 2024 – 11.45am

Gold’s record-breaking rally is confounding the world’s top commodity analysts and fund managers as the precious metal defies traditional price drivers to make history this year. Prices have surged 20 per cent over the past two months to record highs above $US2400 ($3754) an ounce despite elevated real bond yields, which account for inflation, and a robust US dollar. Both of those have historically worked against gold’s favour.

Instead, analysts have attributed gold’s returns to accelerated central bank purchasing, particularly in emerging markets, and strong retail demand in China and the US. Rising geopolitical risks in Europe and the Middle East have only added to gold’s appeal. RBC Capital Markets acknowledged that while those are relevant factors for gold, they have rarely been overriding determinants of its price. The broker’s gold models rely more heavily on macroeconomic drivers such as rates and the US dollar.

“By most of those measures, gold is actually quite overvalued, especially when looking at single factors,” said Helima Croft, head of global commodity strategy at RBC. “Perhaps this is a signal to re-adjust our expectations? Or perhaps the gravity indicated by macro drivers is just not important right now?”

Goldman Sachs agreed that the breakdown in gold’s correlations means a new framework is needed. It suggested gold as a barometer for “fear and wealth”. The broker is far more bullish than RBC, which believes the market hasn’t fully recognised the metal’s vulnerabilities, and predicts prices will average $US2248 an ounce in 2024.


Oxford Economics thought it was already bullish on gold, but it too has seen its forecasts thumped. It warned that prices are now vulnerable to a short-term pullback, and subsequently closed its long position that it opened in October last year. Oxford believes the rally has been supported by an increase in investment managers taking long positions, which have spiked over the last month to the highest since the pandemic broke out in 2020.

“We think that the rally has run out of steam among speculators who won’t continue buying gold at the same pace,” said economist Diego Cacciapuoti.


In contrast, Goldman last week upgraded its year-end price forecast to $US2700 an ounce, from $US2300 an ounce previously. It believes that US Federal Reserve rate cuts arriving later this year will likely stem the outflows being suffered by exchange-traded funds that buy physical gold. Indeed, ETFs have shed around 900 tonnes of physical gold since holdings peaked in the fourth quarter of 2020, Citi noted. ETF providers buy and store gold to match demand for their securities.

But any outflows appear to have been absorbed by central banks, whose gold purchases hit their second-highest level in 2023, buying around 1037 tonnes collectively.

And Citi expects that trend to continue, projecting more than 1000 tonnes of central bank purchases this year, which would be the third-highest volume since the Nixon shock in 1971, the last time foreign governments could exchange their dollars for gold.

Citi this week upgraded its forecasts to its “bull case scenario”, triggering a 6.8 per cent increase to its 2024 projection to $US2350 an ounce, and an “admittedly massive” 40 per cent lift in 2025 to $US2875 an ounce.

Laggards​

The broker believes that an eventual interest rate cutting cycle by the Federal Reserve and a rally in Treasuries could be the kicker to boost gold to $US3000 an ounce in the next 12 months.

But while analysts scramble to retool their forecasts, investors are also wondering when the surging gold price will flow through to the valuations of gold producers. Indeed, the VanEck Gold Miners ETF has underperformed the gold price by around 30 per cent over the past three years. But UBS noted this week that the ETF has begun to close the gap.

The broker argued that if gold holds at current levels, it amounts to 20 per cent upside to 2024-25 earnings for gold miners under its coverage.

While UBS acknowledged that wet weather in Western Australia will keep pressure on FY24 guidance and costs, that wouldn’t be enough to take the shine off the surging gold price.

“While recent WA rainfall is the latest production challenge, making meeting the bottom end of guidance a beat, in this price environment there are few bad gold stocks to hold,” said UBS analyst Levi Spry.

Wilsons Advisory agreed that the sector’s leverage to the gold price will outweigh the impacts of cost inflation in the medium term – a dynamic which is not yet adequately reflected in consensus earnings.

Have a very nice Sunday.

Kind regards
rcw1
 

Perhaps its merely telling us that the experts and the gifted ones know no more than us mere mortals.
Mick
 
I'm always suspicious of analysts that change their predictions at the slightest headwind..
Most of them have ulterior motives, "most of them publish what they are told to publish"..
As a contrarian i just don't believe them, they get spooked way too easily IMO..
 
As a Contrarian, I just do not believe them, Do they just get spooked too easily ?, or do they really want to buy back in at lower prices ?.
Technically, there is no tested Resistance anywhere above the current SP, So, atm the magical 2400 suits their needs...
 
So from the above article:



CBs have been buying and they have been buying for a number of years. Physical. The leverage of paper to physical is breaking down.

The real issue is that their 'model' is no longer relevant. China et al have broken the USD monopoly.



Interesting that they chose $2400. That is the rumoured Treasury PUT price. LOL. GS are in the loop certainly.



These charts come from pg 274 of this thread:



JPM is now joint custodian along with the LBMA in London. JPM have been transferring physical from London to NY. JPM are definitely in the loop as they have always been the Treasury's agent.



Which is exactly right. Yellen NEEDS a LOWER USD. Buy gold (sell USD) and then revalue. FDR did this EXACT same thing in 1933.

Pay attention to history. When was the last SOVEREIGN DEBT crisis? Correct the 1930's and the hangover in debt from WWI.

jog on
duc
 
I am seeing early 70's style inflation ' fractal ' . I suggest the go look at '70's gold PA , I wouldn't be surprised to see gold at multiples of what it is today by end of decade . I am so time poor atm otherwise i'd do a deeper dive post on this .
 


Maybe the government here will follow a presumed lead from the U.S at some point of desperation and confiscate citizens' privately held gold? The Aust government might see it as a convenient way to restock some of what Monash Uni 'educated' treasurer Pete Costello threw away? Pete was such a modern thinker. Just a paranoid notion. The Australian government (especially a Labor one) might say, "The Australian people want their fair share of windfall super profits"

Australia Gold Confiscation—1959

"The Australian government similarly nationalized gold.
The law, part of the Banking Act in 1959, allowed gold seizures of private citizens if the Governor determined it was “expedient so to do, for the protection of the currency or of the public credit of the Commonwealth.” In other words, they made it legal to seize gold from private citizens and exchange it for paper currency.

The country’s Treasurer stated in a press release that followed, “All gold (other than wrought gold and coins to a limited extent) had to be delivered to the Reserve Bank of Australia within one month of its coming into a person's possession.”
The law also said you weren’t allowed to sell gold, except to the Reserve Bank of Australia (their central bank). Nor could you export any gold (send it outside the country) without the bank’s permission.

While it is unclear whether or not the country moved ahead with active seizures, or just how many citizens complied, the law still destroyed the local private gold market overnight.
Like the US ban, this rule wasn’t short lived either. Reports indicate it stayed on the books until 1976, a full 17 years, before being “suspended.” "

Article from the ABC!! dated Mar 2010

"In November 1997 the then Treasurer, Peter Costello, shocked some people when he announced he'd signed off on the sale of $2 billion worth of Australian bullion. On the day he announced the sale the price was around $US306.00 an ounce. At the time, according to Mr Costello, gold "no longer plays a significant role in the international financial system"."
 
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