Garpal Gumnut
Ross Island Hotel
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I am not looking for recognition for a good call, it is about being forewarned of a potential outcome. If I see something early I can be looking out for a potential outcome earlier or delay investment until the coast is clear. I am currently avoiding buying any gold or silver stocks or ETFs until the rising wedge has resolved, either by a failed pattern or by resolving downwards out of the rising wedge. It comes down to capital protection, not kudos or otherwise for a chart call.Yes I look for developing patterns as well but I don't like to let myself give them too much weight in my mind at first, as they develop they become more significant for me. I've found that when I call them too early I'm too often wrong. From your writing above it would seem that you feel the same but don't care too much about calling them early anyway. Maybe some time in the future I'll be able to say to you 'good call'.
I'm looking for a gold/silver wipeout from extraneous events.I am not looking for recognition for a good call, it is about being forewarned of a potential outcome. If I see something early I can be looking out for a potential outcome earlier or delay investment until the coast is clear. I am currently avoiding buying any gold or silver stocks or ETFs until the rising wedge has resolved, either by a failed pattern or by resolving downwards out of the rising wedge. It comes down to capital protection, not kudos or otherwise for a chart call.
I think that your logic is sound, I'm just a bit different in that I like to run a bit closer to the market and trade in and out of shorter moves. So I'm watching to see when gold breaks out from the current sideways movement and I'll trade that move and still be watching as the bigger picture forms. The comment about 'good call' was just a bit of tongue and cheek, I know from your postings that you take your trading seriously.I am currently avoiding buying any gold or silver stocks or ETFs until the rising wedge has resolved
I think that your logic is sound, I'm just a bit different in that I like to run a bit closer to the market and trade in and out of shorter moves. So I'm watching to see when gold breaks out from the current sideways movement and I'll trade that move and still be watching as the bigger picture forms. The comment about 'good call' was just a bit of tongue and cheek, I know from your postings that you take your trading seriously.
I'm looking for a gold/silver wipeout from extraneous events.
In fact I'm looking for an everything wipeout from blow-up of the bond market.
Just dunno when.
What a crazy market we are in!Well it looks as if Gold will be going on a tear next week.
Deja vu, all over again, as we say at the hotel.
Onwards and upwards.
What a crazy market we are in!
Despite the fact that POG is trading above its post GFC peak of 2011, gold producers are still languishing. Based on POG's previous history Newcrest, as an example, should be trading above $45/share and rising strongly in a bull market.
Equally the case for POO, albeit POO is just trading at a comparatively high price but lower than its 2008 peak. Woodside as an example would have hit $50/share a while back and still be trading around $45/share despite recent weakness.
Neither NCM nor WPL are anywhere near the previous highs, and would need to add another 30% minimum to their present prices to be comparably placed.
Then I looked at base metals. Same story to a degree in that near record high prices are only marginally affecting share prices. S32 seems to be the exception but that's probably because it also has coking coal in its mix.
I get the impression that punters are exceptionally cautious with anything that has to come out of the ground, and prefer to risk more money on banks and typically less volatile market segments. What's silly, if that is the case, is that most segments are prone to cyclical trends. And its the minerals sector that typically goes through the roof when it takes off.
Gold can be a bit weirder though because, as @ducati916's 12 million charts show, there is often no rhyme nor reason to its sharp movements up or down when in a bull market trend. It's a case of knowing there is a trend, and "holding on." Active traders will have been in and out many times, but that's never been me as that way I don't worry about regrets in missing buying or selling opportunities during the journey.
Thanks for the detail you have been putting in duc, but can I make a request that you label what the charts are showing.I think that is fair comment. The market still hasn't come to a consensus on whether there is to be a secular inflation or a deflationary recession (depression).
The historical record demonstrates the flippe-floppe nature of gold vis-a-vis investors. Interest rates, nominal and real. Fed tightening cycles and effects thereof and war.
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In addition we have the Ruble backed by gold, which will play havoc with DXY valuations in gold
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Plenty for gold to digest.
Ultimately, gold wins in either scenario, inflation/deflation, it matters not.
jog on
duc
I would hope to see $USD1940 as the new floor for POG, as that is what Putin's Ruble/Oil play has fixed it at according to the Gold experts.Gold looks bullish now at US $1,960 equivalent to AUD Gold $2,633 as we speak.
Cheers tela
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