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Good to be pickled and the crapola is tangible. And human too, lost yer patience mon ami.
Anyway, my rough take
Weekly gold chart forming a large pennant, top is March 08 at US$1,000 and bottom Aug 06 at $640. Will have to break out within 20 weeks from here which is just about the time the new US admin takes the helm and causes one hell of a problem, or at lest the blame for it.
Dont' see much PPT or conspiracy in the possibilities here.
The US has said they will be selling gold reserves to pay for a lot of this.Do you or Refined Sliver / Uncle have a view as to its current position and why, not looking for an argument just wondering why.
The US has said they will be selling gold reserves to pay for a lot of this.
It's certainly one explanation.
Explode I don't understand the FA drivers of the gold price but have long read gold bugs talk about its ascendancy given the right conditions which correct me if I am wrong appear to be now.
Main St is fairly aware some thing is amiss, the market knows that the bail out really isn't going to change anything and the risks are frigging massive world wide, this information will arrive at main st any week / month now.
But gold is not at $2000 plus its plugging $800 odd.
I know its had a nice run up from $250 ish and the current up side to me looks stronger when viewing the chart but that is still to be confirmed and not a given.
Do you or Refined Sliver / Uncle have a view as to its current position and why, not looking for an argument just wondering why.
One thought I had is the wealth around the place is tied up in credit and cannot be transferred to gold easily, but the total gold market is very small in world terms..........
Yep, definately. Not just their sales, but other traders perceptions of the impact of this upon the POG. Anyways, I'm off to the lake for a feed. See you in a tick bud.
But gold is not at $2000 plus its plugging $800 odd.
Do you or Refined Sliver / Uncle have a view as to its current position and why, not looking for an argument just wondering why.
For me, the risks of not being in gold, and it making a big move, are potentially far more catastrophic than precious metals and related going to zero.Its up to each person to trade/invest according to their own preferred strategy.
For me, the risks of not being in gold, and it making a big move, are potentially far more catastrophic than precious metals and related going to zero.
“The Federal Reserve has just expanded its balance sheet more in one month than it has in almost all of its first 86 years of existence. I am not kidding. Its assets, which represent the cumulative reserves the Fed has ‘created,’ totaled less than $700 billion at the turn of the millennium, and continued to expand by about $50 billion per year after that, up until this month.
“In September alone, reserve bank credit inflated by almost $600 billion. It is a record, and has already affected the monetary base.
“Up until September, the Fed has been careful to sterilize its liquidity provisions by selling Treasuries or reverse repos or simply by lending its securities off balance sheet. So while it has extended credit since August 2007, it has not monetized much of the liquidity. But the NET factor of increase to reserve bank credit for the month of September was about $170 billion. That is money created out of thin air… unsterilized.
“This number is unprecedented. It is difficult to predict gold’s short-term response to this shock, but the market cannot ignore the fundamental effect of this crackup for long. With interventions like this, we should get a few more $100-up days soon enough.”
Neither can I.The fundamentals are just so absurd, I personally can't see a nice trending move happening, but rather a violent readjustment.
Neither can I.
It will be violent either way.
But like I say, being out of gold, or the events that would lead to a massive upward move, would be far more catastrophic for me than being in a large downward move.
Dow up minus 34 points right now ... wee iz all saved. Clearly the market is embracing current conditionsMy suggestion ... buy bank stocks
Do you or Refined Sliver / Uncle have a view as to its current position and why, not looking for an argument just wondering why.
Simply, the velocity of paper money is now a big fat zero! Meaning that the longer and deeper the credit contraction or miss-trust between the worlds fractional reserve administrators is, the longer & deeper the negative contagion will continue for the global economy, and it's inherent wealth destruction and/or transfer.
So in the meantime it's not why gold is a good investment or trade but rather what is a better investment or trade to gold - US dollars/bonds or equities. I think we are at a point of flux while the world holds it's collective breath waiting to see if 'the bailout' works. It won't because it does not address the cause(s) of the problem, rather it attempts to lessen the impacts of the inevitable?
Gold is useless in the sweet spot of inflationary economics ie the period we have just experienced over the last 20 years or so, but the ending has been accompanied by stagflationary forces. Gold has risen on the inflationary part of this? The transition to a deflationary environment is being heralded by massive repositioning, into and out of the latest asset flavour of the month, with massive daily price fluctuations as witnessed, but for gold at least still relatively at a higher level now when compared to the US DX over the period from the low.
In the final analysis, gold does well in inflationary times as the CB's try to re inflate their way out of the mess (as per usual custom), but in the deflationary spiral we are about to enter gold does/will do spectacularly well simply because nothing else is going up in 'value' ie deflating. Simplistic but logical to me at least? The final nail will be if the US DX does finally capitulate inferring one super stagflationary final blow off top for commodities, in a world that can't afford them anyway. And maybe why there is concerted intervention by the worlds central banks to prop the collar up because the alternative is much worse than what we have now?
Double top for the US DX, both gold & the Dow in 4 figures (Dow will finally price in a real economy recession that is well under way!) before the year is over?
I'm going to give this trade a go tomorrow night. GLD ETF - Bullish wedge.
Box of ale says it jumps over my limit order.
Cheers,
CanOz
Can thinking similar haven't decided the entry point yet may work on a couple of steps
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