Freedom of speech and protest

[rederob]

All I'm saying is people should be treated equally regardless of what group they choose to place themselves in.

You are rather confused then, because they are not all equal- whatever that is supposed to mean - and they are not being treated equally as a result.
You seem unable to grasp that!
Moreover, you are blaming them!

 

[SirRumpole]

I think they amount of politicians currently taking money from China indicates a larger problem.
I think the amount of Chinese money, pro communist activists that mobilize quickly and chinese business influence is a huge indicator that Aus has already sold out.

Indeed. The revelations over Crown casino indicated that.

Funny how that issue has gone quiet isn't it ?

 

[SirRumpole]

You are rather confused then, because they are not all equal- whatever that is supposed to mean - and they are not being treated equally as a result.
You seem unable to grasp that!
Moreover, you are blaming them!

No point in arguing with you. You are incapable of anything more than vague insults.

 

[rederob]

No point in arguing with you. You are incapable of anything more than vague insults.

You need to re-read the thread posts because you clearly do not understand what "identity politics" is, and whatever concept you have of "equal" is not reflected in the hundreds of measures that governments of every level have in place to address iniquities and discrimination at individual and community levels.

 

[SirRumpole]

You need to re-read the thread posts because you clearly do not understand what "identity politics" is,

What's your definition ?

Whatever, it's just a quibble.

Once you treat certain groups differently, it only provokes the rest to say "what
about us".

So it just creates divisions in society.

 

[rederob]

Once you treat certain groups differently, it only provokes the rest to say "what about us".

Ok, who are you talking about?

 

[SirRumpole]

Ok, who are you talking about?

The fuss about Gladys Liu for a start. Trying to pander to a particular demographic in that electorate. Added to flying the communist flag from one of our public buildings. Again pandering to a particular demographic.

Treating religion as a protected species with "religious freedom" laws, as if religious views should have a greater protection than say political or social views.

 

[rederob]

The fuss about Gladys Liu for a start. Trying to pander to a particular demographic in that electorate. Added to flying the communist flag from one of our public buildings. Again pandering to a particular demographic.

Treating religion as a protected species with "religious freedom" laws, as if religious views should have a greater protection than say political or social views.

Yep, you are a true racist.
There are protocols for flying foreign flags and they were followed to the letter in the case of Box Hill Police Station's actions.
As to the "fuss" about Lui, it was mostly about alleged breaches of the Electoral Act until the ABC also uncovered ties linking her to a secretive international influence arm of the Chinese Government.
Apart from that nearly 45% of her electorate are overseas born with 20% having a Chinese background. So if you are claiming "identity politics" in respect of Liu, what does it entail?

 

[SirRumpole]

Yep, you are a true racist.
There are protocols for flying foreign flags and they were followed to the letter in the case of Box Hill Police Station's actions.
As to the "fuss" about Lui, it was mostly about alleged breaches of the Electoral Act until the ABC also uncovered ties linking her to a secretive international influence arm of the Chinese Government.
Apart from that nearly 45% of her electorate are overseas born with 20% having a Chinese background. So if you are claiming "identity politics" in respect of Liu, what does it entail?

Once again I'm not going to respond to insults, so take your opinions on racism (which I doubt you know the meaning of the word) and shove them.

 

[SirRumpole]

As to the "fuss" about Lui, it was mostly about alleged breaches of the Electoral Act until the ABC also uncovered ties linking her to a secretive international influence arm of the Chinese Government.

And you see nothing wrong with Glady's links to Chinese communist government ?

Cheeses.

 

[SirRumpole]

Apart from that nearly 45% of her electorate are overseas born with 20% having a Chinese background. So if you are claiming "identity politics" in respect of Liu, what does it entail?

80% of the electorate doesn't have a Chinese background.

 

[rederob]

Once again I'm not going to respond to insults you little turd, so take your opinions on racism (which I doubt you know the meaning of the word) and shove them.

You are not capable of substantiating your claims are you!
You claim "identity politics" and don't understand it.
You are asked to provide an example and cannot.
Then you repeating the Box Hill flag raising event without realising the Police actions were entirely appropriate.
You are the epitome of racist dog whistlers with a slew of comments specifying race and hoping others join your imagined dots.

 

[SirRumpole]

Then you repeating the Box Hill flag raising event without realising the Police actions were entirely appropriate.

Why were they appropriate ? (BTW that was the example you asked for in case you missed it).

The flag raising was celebrating 70 years of the Chinese Communist Party, rolling out the tanks and missiles to intimidate everyone around the world.

What a great achievement, keeping 1.4 billion people in slavery to one of the worst governments in the world.

You want to celebrate that comrade then maybe change your name to Red Rob.

Just in case you think I have something against the Chinese race I celebrate the achievements of Taiwan ( a democratic country) which is the 22nd richest country in the world but has been dumped by countries like ours in favour of the big dollars from the Red Chinese.

 

[rederob]

No flag of another country should be flown from any building in Australia, unless there is an official visit of some sort.

There are people trying to slice the country into little pieces and make us all fight each other.

We keep hearing about "the Muslim community" or the "Chinese community" or the "gay and lesbian community" etc as if each group have their own special needs that governments and the rest of society should pander to.
That's identity politics and it's rubbish.

However anyone flying the flag of another country on their proerty has to raise questions of "whose side are they on ?".

Once you treat certain groups differently, it only provokes the rest to say "what about us".

80% of the electorate doesn't have a Chinese background.

So there's a selection of your comments.
It's a lot of mud throwing without a shred of qualification or substantiation.

 

[rederob]

Why were they appropriate ? (BTW that was the example you asked for in case you missed it).
The flag raising was celebrating 70 years of the Chinese Communist Party, rolling out the tanks and missiles to intimidate everyone around the world.
What a great achievement, keeping 1.4 billion people in slavery to one of the worst governments in the world.

That pretty well says it all, so I will leave you on your merry rants.

 

[SirRumpole]

That pretty well says it all, so I will leave you on your merry rants.

Hahaha. I give you specifics and you have no reply.

You are a waste of space with empty arguments.

 

[cynic]

How can you tell if some one is Chinese or Australian just by walking past them in the street???

Tien tau!!!

 

[Value Collector]

Does he ever fly the Australian flag, as he happens to live here ?

Not that I have seen, but just because you move across the world, doesn’t mean you won’t want to still celebrate some of your culture from the previous home.

Heck, we have the Union Jack on our flag still hahahaha.

 

[SirRumpole]

Heck, we have the Union Jack on our flag still hahahaha.

Yes unfortunately.

A boomerang on a blue background with the southern cross would be better I reckon.

Every time we win an olympic medal the poms take half the credit.

 

[qldfrog]

I would not fly the french fren here at home, but that is up to the individual, i am opposed to flying any foreign flag on a public building except of course for a delegation visit or an 8nternational event world convention, sport etc