Food scarcity

[Smurf1976]

It’s a fact that not many people want to acknowledge, but we dedicate huge amounts of farmland, Water, fertiliser and surprisingly fish just to feed animals on factory farms.

It’s pretty wasteful, I think if we are ever going to feed 11 billion people we will have to be eating a lot less meat, or maybe switch a large portion of meat production to Lab grown meat where we just grow the bits humans want and not the whole animal.

Agree as such but I'll argue that to even contemplate a population of 11 billion is insanity.

 

[Value Collector]

Agree as such but I'll argue that to even contemplate a population of 11 billion is insanity.

I agree, but with current birth rates, and an improvement in life expectancy in the third world we are on track to hit that.

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Some of the stats on farming are crazy, for example.

70% of all the birds on the planet are farmed poultry. (By mass)

60% of all mammals are livestock, 36% are humans and only 4% are wild animals. (By mass)

We could actually easily feed 11 Billion people with existing farmland, but we can’t feed Billions of animals too.

 

[divs4ever]

I agree, but with current birth rates, and an improvement in life expectancy in the third world we are on track to hit that.

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Some of the stats on farming are crazy, for example.

70% of all the birds on the planet are farmed poultry. (By mass)

60% of all mammals are livestock, 36% are humans and only 4% are wild animals. (By mass)

We could actually easily feed 11 Billion people with existing farmland, but we can’t feed Billions of animals too.

so .. you haven't spent an hour or two in your backyard

there are plenty of uncaged birds ( a pair of bush turkeys , wild ducks , usually two , etc etc etc. , , not so many mammals ( a passing fox , the neighbour's cat , two species of possums at night , some rodents ), but quite a selection of reptiles in the backyard here water dragons, blue-tongues , skinks , at least 3 species of snakes , haven't seen any turtles but there is a creek nearby could be maybe , maybe the highway on the other-side of the creek takes out the turtles

i am guessing selective data collection again by the Green Collective

 

[Value Collector]

so .. you haven't spent an hour or two in your backyard

there are plenty of uncaged birds ( a pair of bush turkeys , wild ducks , usually two , etc etc etc. , , not so many mammals ( a passing fox , the neighbour's cat , two species of possums at night , some rodents ), but quite a selection of reptiles in the backyard here water dragons, blue-tongues , skinks , at least 3 species of snakes , haven't seen any turtles but there is a creek nearby could be maybe , maybe the highway on the other-side of the creek takes out the turtles

i am guessing selective data collection again by the Green Collective

No, it’s not selective data, it’s true and available from many sources. You can also see it in the stats of where our grain and soybean production go, for example humans only consume 6% of soybean directly the majority go to factory farms.

Think about it, sometimes in the wild you can see a huge flock of birds and it’s a bit of a spectacle, but that flock of birds is less than one shed of chickens on a factory farm and the farm probably has 12 sheds, and down the road is another 12 sheds etc.

As I said it’s hard for some people to believe because it’s mostly kept out of site of us, but dif a little deeper and you will find a lot of info.

70% of all birds on earth are farmed poultry • Food Security Center

Melancholic is definitely how you will feel after reading the study «The biomass distributions on Earth» by Yinon M. Bar-On, Rob

www.foodsecuritycenter.org

 

[divs4ever]

the local birds are regulars the crows are fourth or fifth generation , ( because the nest is in the front yard) , and the kookaburras are at least third generation the next i across the street , i suspect the ducks nest close by as well but not so close that the ducklings wander in the yard

modern agriculture looks impressive because they concentrate it , but nature has it's mass as well , it just moves to where the food is ( and trees help generate those food sources )

now sure i would prefer more local fauna than feral ( cats/foxes/toads, rabbits , etc etc ) but given a chance nature does balance things out

for example at a different property the crows learned to flip and eat cane toads ( thighs ) leaving room for some green frogs to exist

 

[Gringotts Bank]

So which Aussie food stocks? Other than ELD.

 

[divs4ever]

i added some extra GNC to the ones i bought yesterday

but most will be looking for quicker returns than i expect from GNC

crunch the figures on SHV and see if they appeal to you ( i have had a nice run with them in the past , but no longer hold )

i hold SGLLV but they are not liquid enough for most people

i was finding it tough to find attractive stocks in this sector , so bought RHL/Ruralco ( since taken over ) , RFF and D2O plus some fertilizer exposure via WES

this sector is liable to have wild swings , which can be good but scary

PS i have a bias against aquaculture ( fish and shellfish ) but maybe there will be something there that appeals

and don't forget grapes/wine and olives , a good entry price there can make or break a 'bottom drawer stock '

 

[mullokintyre]

CKF. When

So which Aussie food stocks? Other than ELD.

DMP and CKF. people will still go for pizzas and KFC even if world war 3 broke out.
And maybe the Beta shares FOOD etf
RFG is to be avoided at all costs as does CGF.
Mick

 

[divs4ever]

a trader buddy likes AAC , about $1.10 ( but doesn't hold ) , i could never get the numbers to crunch attractively on that one

 

[basilio]

A new idea to address growing food.

PRESS RELEASE 21st April 2022​

Consortium Plan To Build & Operate Scotland's First Low Carbon, Energy Efficient, Soil-Free Vertical Farms In The Central Belt​

A consortium of four British companies have earmarked a series of sites between Dumbarton and Dundee for the locations of Scotland’s next generation of hectare+ scale vertical farms, powered by 100% Scottish renewables. These farms would provide locally produced fresh foods (salads and fruits) to over 60% of the Scottish population.

The vertical farms will help meet the Scottish Government’s ambitions to produce more homegrown fruit and vegetables. Each vertical farm would be powered by locally produced renewable energy.

Next generation vertical farms use advanced soil-free growing techniques and stack crops in specially designed beds and trays. They minimise water, fertiliser and pesticide use which is highly beneficial to the environment and make use of artificial lighting and climate control to get the desired results.

The V-FAST consortium comprises UK Urban AgriTech (UKUAT), Vertegrow Ltd, Light Science Technologies Ltd and RheEnergise Limited, the UK energy storage company.

RheEnergise News

Our latest achievements

www.rheenergise.com

 

[eskys]

GNC ex dividend tomorrow.....30 cents, full franking, and Elders going on a trot this morning....had me tricked

 

[eskys]

Elders gone for a run again .....I timed it poorly today.........up another 10 cents since my exit............consumer staples were red last night, but our consumer staples sector is green...........this is a difficult market to gauge.

Collins Food and Elders were at their all time low this year a few weeks ago

 

[divs4ever]

i would rather hold this sector for the long haul but take-overs in Coca-Cola and Ruralco ruined those plans ( but crystallized a profit )

currently GNC , SGLLV and SHV are my main hopes but CLV has been the big winner for me ( i was buying during the powered milk scandals )

weather and FX fluctuations make this a tough game

 

[eskys]

I noticed in the past, punters turn defensive when volatility goes up but VIX is down, divs.

Went to Coles last week, red capsicum were 14.99.......so I bought one. Weather so cold, my capsicums are refusing to grow........food will probably stay this way for a while

 

[divs4ever]

i tilt ( new buying ) into consumer staples ( and 'safe-havens ') when the economy makes little sense ( to me )

it is a QLD summer here , the rain is a bit light on , but cool weather isn't a problem here currently

 

[qldfrog]

i tilt ( new buying ) into consumer staples ( and 'safe-havens ') when the economy makes little sense ( to me )

it is a QLD summer here , the rain is a bit light on , but cool weather isn't a problem here currently

It is cold,colder than usual here in the sunny coast but garden and weeds booming,and grass as well.
My herd very happy and live cattle price crazy at the salesyard..a sign of general good season for our local farmers

 

[divs4ever]

It is cold,colder than usual here in the sunny coast but garden and weeds booming,and grass as well.
My herd very happy and live cattle price crazy at the salesyard..a sign of general good season for our local farmers

nice to see some folks are looking forward to a relatively happy Christmas

maybe you need a few goats to tame the weeds ( maybe milkers so you get some milk along with the weed suppression )

 

[qldfrog]

nice to see some folks are looking forward to a relatively happy Christmas

maybe you need a few goats to tame the weeds ( maybe milkers so you get some milk along with the weed suppression )

Weeds 8n the garden, in the paddocks, it is food for my methane emitting, world destroying cattle.so unPC

 

[divs4ever]

PC translates to Pure C#@p to me

so i don't feel bad about unPC

last i heard weeds are plants that are unuseful , i would class cattle fodder as having some use

although Victoria seems to disagree with that and funded the removal of plants that cattle would eat in harsh times ( and not die from eating them )

 

[eskys]

divs, SHV at it's 12 month low today...had a sensitive announcement yesterday. I missed it, and Elders ran away from me today..........missed it by hair's breadth