Federal Labor Party discussion

[Calliope]

to add a different opinion...

...anyway, as long as TA is there, I 'sll have to live with a socialist government and pay the cost....

That's a very strange opinion...blaming Tony Abbott because we have a rotten socialist government. Unfortunately he can't do anything about it until Rudd has an election.

 

[sptrawler]

to add a different opinion:
watch a bit of Rudd speech at lunch time: Tony is left behind a big way and we have Kevin as next PM if nothing change liberal side:
TA banging with carbon tax and fair works/etc related matters is so 50's

Anyone who can add up and want to be informed (not the case i agree of a lot of the retirees behind the lnp)
knows that these are not the real problems
what is the % of the population working under a workplace agreement? minute vs the population
what is the real cost of the carbon tax in your power bill?
Next Tony will follow up the media CA style blaming the electricity bill on solar on the roof....
No real motivating aim, blue sky to reach, positive spin however rubbish it might be ultimately.
You need to motivate a nation, and that is definitively something Tony will not do
I have a small business and what i see is:
no decent infrastructure
endless flow of foreign workers imported to compete against me but who do not have either the same taxes nor the same cost of living I have: how can i ever be competitive when my council rates /insurance/you name it increase by 10% p a, my plumber charges over $100 an hour and we get an endless stream of illegals piling up on the already enormous number of p[eople on welfare (various style including pensions, yes...)
that is what Tony has to fight on with a chance.
What about super which every one knows is a rort but seems to be accepted as both side have their own lobbies

anyway, as long as TA is there, I 'sll have to live with a socialist government and pay the cost....

My guess is you need another three years of Labor.

 

[qldfrog]

My guess is you need another three years of Labor.

got already 3y too much thanks to Tony and inept opposition, there is no joy in seeing this country ruined and heading the way Europe went

 

[qldfrog]

The reality is that they have had an impact on electricity prices as a consequence of the subsidies offered.

without them you would be paying a couple of billions a pop for new power plants
6 billions I believe for NSW but it might have been for the whole of australia. if really looking, you can find the figures
I so pay 3k upfront for a system,may get a subsidies of what 25%? but the capex is paid from my pocket
you as my neighbour slowly pay part of the asset scheduled repayment, the difference is that the money goes to me, not energex or whoever...
And I do not mention the fact here in queensland we avoided a couple of wild cut during air cond surges.
You are too bright to swallow the propaganda...

 

[Calliope]

AS opposed to qldfrog, NT dog gives it's opinion of Mr Rudd's policies.



Kevin Rudd with Yirrkala indigenous leaders for the 50th anniversary of the Yirrkala Bark Petitions. Source: News Limited

 

[sptrawler]

without them you would be paying a couple of billions a pop for new power plants
6 billions I believe for NSW but it might have been for the whole of australia. if really looking, you can find the figures
I so pay 3k upfront for a system,may get a subsidies of what 25%? but the capex is paid from my pocket
you as my neighbour slowly pay part of the asset scheduled repayment, the difference is that the money goes to me, not energex or whoever...
And I do not mention the fact here in queensland we avoided a couple of wild cut during air cond surges.
You are too bright to swallow the propaganda...

Bit of a side issue frog, I read that it is going to be a requirement that all a/c and hws will be fitted with a frequency switch. This is to enable the power system control to turn them off remotely in periods of high load.

You are right about load growth, it is reducing. This is due to a multitude of reasons, solar, wind, more efficient appliances & lights etc. Also a drop in manufacturing, small business etc.

 

[drsmith]

without them you would be paying a couple of billions a pop for new power plants
6 billions I believe for NSW but it might have been for the whole of australia. if really looking, you can find the figures
I so pay 3k upfront for a system,may get a subsidies of what 25%? but the capex is paid from my pocket
you as my neighbour slowly pay part of the asset scheduled repayment, the difference is that the money goes to me, not energex or whoever...
And I do not mention the fact here in queensland we avoided a couple of wild cut during air cond surges.
You are too bright to swallow the propaganda...

Perhaps new power plants would have generated cheaper electricity.

Why otherwise did solar require such generous government subsidies ?

 

[sptrawler]

WOW, even the ABC is realises he is taking the pi$$.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4814094.html


Why call on Abbott to supply policy, when Rudd can't supply answers to the problems he caused.

 

[Julia]

The reality is that they have had an impact on electricity prices as a consequence of the subsidies offered.

Exactly right. To suggest this is unrealistic is not valid, qldfrog.

 

[sails]

AS opposed to qldfrog, NT dog gives it's opinion of Mr Rudd's policies.

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Kevin Rudd with Yirrkala indigenous leaders for the 50th anniversary of the Yirrkala Bark Petitions. Source: News Limited

anyone notice how disinterested the people are...

 

[sptrawler]

Someones being getting tips.lol



I was going to put in a different clip, but it was a bit close to the bone.lol

 

[No Trust]

AS opposed to qldfrog, NT dog gives it's opinion of Mr Rudd's policies.

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Kevin Rudd with Yirrkala indigenous leaders for the 50th anniversary of the Yirrkala Bark Petitions. Source: News Limited

That dog could be a bad omen for Rudd as its ananalgous of what Australia thinks of him and his Bullsh#t...

Talk talk talk and the boats just keep on coming...

 

[noco]

That dog could be a bad omen for Rudd as its ananalgous of what Australia thinks of him and his Bullsh#t...

Talk talk talk and the boats just keep on coming...

And Singapore calls him the showman from down under.

 

[Calliope]

anyone notice how disinterested the people are...

Or how precarious his platform looks. Another omen?

 

[MrBurns]

That dog could be a bad omen for Rudd as its ananalgous of what Australia thinks of him and his Bullsh#t...

Talk talk talk and the boats just keep on coming...

Good subject for this thread...........

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24559&page=8

I have to run so I'll let someone else post it.........

 

[Calliope]

The world waits in line on a cold Canberra day to pay homage to King Kev.

 

[No Trust]

Rudd's honeymoon will be over within weeks...

He can talk all he wants but the boats just keep on coming in... Australian people are not stupid, even labour voters are sick of this country being taken over by people smugglers and asylum seekers. These people do not assimilate into this country and laugh at how stupid this government is... Things have to change and the man who destroyed our border protection is not the answer.

RUDD IS THE SAME DUDD...

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Or how precarious his platform looks. Another omen?

He looks like he is falling into a sink hole... Another bad omen...

 

[noco]

Even RICHO belives Rudd's Labor reform is a dream only.

Just 'PIE IN THE SkY' and it will never happen.




http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...him-hes-dreaming/story-fnfenwor-1226677873722

 

[db94]

The whole situation is being well played by Abbott. He is letting Rudd straw-man himself. Rudd talking about how he is going to revolutionise Australia with all these policies, and in turn he is building something up that he cannot be, too perfect of an image. People then reflect on all this talk and as humans do, look at the negatives and and realise what it was like when he last in, complete crap and all he did was show pony. This will result in people turning against him. People only liked him for getting rid of Gillard but after that becomes old what does he have?

Rudd is running into this election as if he is opposition leader (basically the same to how he did against howard). He already has the power to do all these miracles, why doesnt he do it now and show us that he is a capable pm?

The one thing that Rudd is doing, will be the thing that will destroy him. All the while Abbott sits back and lets Rudd do it

 

[bunyip]

The whole situation is being well played by Abbott. He is letting Rudd straw-man himself. Rudd talking about how he is going to revolutionise Australia with all these policies, and in turn he is building something up that he cannot be, too perfect of an image. People then reflect on all this talk and as humans do, look at the negatives and and realise what it was like when he last in, complete crap and all he did was show pony. This will result in people turning against him. People only liked him for getting rid of Gillard but after that becomes old what does he have?

Well I sure hope you’re right.
But will they wake up to him before the election, or after it once they’ve stupidly put him back into power for another term?
There are some pretty thick people out there who are easily swayed by words. Like the bloke on TV the other night who said ‘Rudd seems to be more genuine this time around – I think he’s worthy of another chance’.

Anybody with any intelligence or common sense at all can see that Rudd is the same slimy, hollow bastard he was last time - big on words and ideas but small on common sense and practical ability. I just hope enough people can see it to prevent him pulling off an election win. To be stuck with this slimy incompetent clown for another term of government would be almost too much to bear.