Fake news and its effect on the community

[basilio]

SP the question I raised was more direct than just wondering how many people might believe it.

Is it acceptable for the President (any..) and his supporters to repeatedly make totally unproven and discredited accusations of electoral fraud which undermine public confidence in the US voting system purely for perceived political advantage ?

Take away the current President. Should we accept the above behaviour ?
What if we extended the question a bit more broadly ?

Is it acceptable for a President to use his position as Head of the State to make repeated, unproven and discredited accusations of fraud/malpractice against

• A Court of Law
• A Tax system
• An entire profession of people - Doctors ?
• A nationwide electoral system ?
• Any media organisations that do not agree with him or attempt to questions his policies.

 

[sptrawler]

SP the question I raised was more direct than just wondering how many people might believe it.

Is it acceptable for the President (any..) and his supporters to repeatedly make totally unproven and discredited accusations of electoral fraud which undermine public confidence in the US voting system purely for perceived political advantage ?

Take away the current President. Should we accept the above behaviour ?
What if we extended the question a bit more broadly ?

Is it acceptable for a President to use his position as Head of the State to make repeated, unproven and discredited accusations of fraud/malpractice against

• A Court of Law
• A Tax system
• An entire profession of people - Doctors ?
• A nationwide electoral system ?
• Any media organisations that do not agree with him or attempt to questions his policies.

If it isn't against the law a person has every right, president or anybody else, they will be judged on that and as has happened thrown out.

Is it right that a duly elected president, prime minister, premier should be subjected to unfounded ridicule, baseless accusations etc, I don't think so, but they are constantly.
How many politicians have you seen take people to court for slander, yet they are slandered constantly, it appears that once in public life the rules of common decency disappear. Anyone from the other tribe, is fair game and both sides are guilty of it.
Take for example not long back Trump said a vaccine wasn't far away, he was shouted down, yet lo and behold a vaccine has arrived extremely quickly. I haven't heard anyone say, jeez he was right, everyone expected two years.

Just my opinion.

 

[satanoperca]

SP the question I raised was more direct than just wondering how many people might believe it.

Is it acceptable for the President (any..) and his supporters to repeatedly make totally unproven and discredited accusations of electoral fraud which undermine public confidence in the US voting system purely for perceived political advantage ?

Take away the current President. Should we accept the above behaviour ?
What if we extended the question a bit more broadly ?

Is it acceptable for a President to use his position as Head of the State to make repeated, unproven and discredited accusations of fraud/malpractice against

• A Court of Law
• A Tax system
• An entire profession of people - Doctors ?
• A nationwide electoral system ?
• Any media organisations that do not agree with him or attempt to questions his policies.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, if people believe that is acceptable, then society as a whole has broken down and disintegrated, we are just part of the swamp.

 

[moXJO]

SP the question I raised was more direct than just wondering how many people might believe it.

Is it acceptable for the President (any..) and his supporters to repeatedly make totally unproven and discredited accusations of electoral fraud which undermine public confidence in the US voting system purely for perceived political advantage ?

Take away the current President. Should we accept the above behaviour ?
What if we extended the question a bit more broadly ?

Is it acceptable for a President to use his position as Head of the State to make repeated, unproven and discredited accusations of fraud/malpractice against

• A Court of Law
• A Tax system
• An entire profession of people - Doctors ?
• A nationwide electoral system ?
• Any media organisations that do not agree with him or attempt to questions his policies.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, if people believe that is acceptable, then society as a whole has broken down and disintegrated, we are just part of the swamp.

We have had 4 years of not accepting the presidency and conspiracy theories galore. What the hell is the difference now?

You guys pushed every theory out there without batting an eyelid. And now all of a sudden you are the purveyors of "truth" and justice.


I'll say the same thing I have said the other hundred times. Let the process play out. Its not the end of the world.

 

[wayneL]

We have had 4 years of not accepting the presidency and conspiracy theories galore. What the hell is the difference now?

You guys pushed every theory out there without batting an eyelid. And now all of a sudden you are the purveyors of "truth" and justice.


I'll say the same thing I have said the other hundred times. Let the process play out. Its not the end of the world.

EXACTLY!!

Further, the electoral laws make provision for this, it IS part of the process.

Also in spite of the denial here and in the MSM, there is reason to go through this process. It is up to the courts to decide to dismiss or uphold.

Only then can the process continue. There is nothing in regular or fake news about it. don't forget the US has been through this all before most recently with Dubya and Al Bore

Be patient Komrades, in all likelihood you will get your man but just let it play out.

 

[satanoperca]

We have had 4 years of not accepting the presidency and conspiracy theories galore. What the hell is the difference now?

You guys pushed every theory out there without batting an eyelid. And now all of a sudden you are the purveyors of "truth" and justice.


I'll say the same thing I have said the other hundred times. Let the process play out. Its not the end of the world.

Who are you guys? Pushing theories? Have some balls and name names, or you are exactly what you are projecting about others.

A liar is a liar and it is simple as that. Leaders should be held in high esteem, future generations look to them for guidance and direction. SIMPLE.

 

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[wayneL]

Who are you guys? Pushing theories? Have some balls and name names, or you are exactly what you are projecting about others.

A liar is a liar and it is simple as that. Leaders should be held in high esteem, future generations look to them for guidance and direction. SIMPLE.

And you support Biden/Harris over The God Emperor?

Liar A good
Liar B bad

.... seems to be a pretty feckin' asinine position to me, based on liarness (sic).

Have you ever thought that somebody might be planting thoughts in your head?

 

[moXJO]

Who are you guys? Pushing theories? Have some balls and name names, or you are exactly what you are projecting about others.

A liar is a liar and it is simple as that. Leaders should be held in high esteem, future generations look to them for guidance and direction. SIMPLE.

I put you two in quotes. That was naming names. Admittedly you have only recently jumped on board but still.

You have rubbery definitions of what makes a liar. I think Trump lies, exaggerates a lot. Biden also flat out lies we are talking decades worth in public office. Apparently that's ok because it wasn't Trump (according to your previous posts).

Nobody has looked at US presidents with high esteem except whatever fanclub following they have.

Leadership qualities ain't what they use to be.

Meh, small steps I suppose.

 

[satanoperca]

I put you two in quotes. That was naming names. Admittedly you have only recently jumped on board but still.

You have rubbery definitions of what makes a liar. I think Trump lies, exaggerates a lot. Biden also flat out lies we are talking decades worth in public office. Apparently that's ok because it wasn't Trump (according to your previous posts).

Nobody has looked at US presidents with high esteem except whatever fanclub following they have.

Leadership qualities ain't what they use to be.

Meh, small steps I suppose.

Last i checked Biden is not president, when and if he is, I will apply the same rules as I apply to Chump in Chief. SIMPLE

You don't like being called out, SHOW ME SOME CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF SYSTEMATIC FRAUD that will stand up in court.

"Which 2 Quotes"? You make/cast aspersions against other posters with gross generalizations.

 

[satanoperca]

ave you ever thought that somebody might be planting thoughts in your head?

You may be correct, but at least I am in my head. LOL

 

[satanoperca]

Oh please, this is getting boring.

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Even better for Robb himeself:

But being a Patriot and supporter of Chump himself, the virus will just disappear. Like shooting ducks in a pond

 

[wayneL]

, SHOW ME SOME CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF SYSTEMATIC FRAUD

It's really pretty simple mate, it's going to court and if it stands up, it stands up. If not, it falls over.

BOOM! Result, one way or the other

 

[satanoperca]

How many court cases have already been thrown out? >35 Surely one might stick!

Or how many men does it take to shoe a horse?

 

[wayneL]

How many court cases have already been thrown out? >35 Surely one might stick!

Or how many men does it take to shoe a horse?

1) like I said and I will repeat ad nauseam if necessary, once the court decides all the individual cases and all legal avenues exhausted, job done, result, all done, one way or the other. That's how the legal system works my friend.

2) Usually one, but it just depends. I am sometimes part of a team... Radiologist, vet surgeon, anaesthetist, vet nurses, farrier... And as a point of order women are often involved. I hope you see the analogy I'm trying to make in response to your quip.

... And as another point of trivia, although we are not at that point yet, in Europe and the US a approximately 10% of farriers are female.

 

[satanoperca]

And as another point of trivia, although we are not at that point yet, in Europe and the US a approximately 10% of farriers are female.

Would have thought women could do the job just as well as men.

 

[wayneL]

Would have thought women could do the job just as well as men.

Some of the women do amazing work, full kudos to them. Honestly, it's a tough job and I dips me lid.

 

[satanoperca]

1) like I said and I will repeat ad nauseam if necessary, once the court decides all the individual cases and all legal avenues exhausted, job done, result, all done, one way or the other. That's how the legal system works my friend.

I think you missed my point, so far 35> court cases have been thrown out.

Ie the latest
"Judge Parker said the suit seeking to overturn Mr Biden’s victory in Michigan was “stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach.”

“If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of the more than 5.5 million Michigan citizens who, with dignity, hope, and a promise of a voice, participated in the 2020 General Election,” she said.

The judge said the suit appeared to be mainly aimed at shaking “People’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government.”

Not the media, a judge, how simple is this, the world is waiting, SHOW US THE EVIDENCE.

 

[wayneL]

Oh Gawd!

That's how the court process works, people show the evidence and the court decides whether the evidence is valid or not.

Once again, decision made, all done, result.

But the process has to be gone through once it is initiated.

Have you never been involved in a civil suit?

 

[dutchie]

The hypocrisy is incredible.
The DTS is incredible.