Fake news and its effect on the community

[dutchie]

MSM in the UK, Europe, USA and Australia is a misnomer. They should be correctly referred to as the MSBC (Main Stream Bias Commentators).
You can't be known as news purveyors when you make up your own version of any news.

 

[wayneL]

Fake news has endangered the lives of schoolboys... Class action coming right up.

WTF ever happened to fact checking?

 

[basilio]

Fake news has endangered the lives of schoolboys... Class action coming right up.

WTF ever happened to fact checking?

Yeah quite right Wayne. And exactly which evil piece of xxxx was it who spread toxic false stories on Facebook that caused his followers to waterboard a Syrian refugee ?

Syrian refugee, 16, who was filmed being 'waterboarded' by school bullies is suing Facebook 'for not stopping Tommy Robinson posting accusations he violently attacked three English girls'

• Syrian refugee Jamal, 16, is going to sue Facebook over claims made about him
• Refugee was allegedly 'waterboarded' by a school bully in a shocking incident
• EDL founder Tommy Robinson made claims on the social media site about Jamal
• In a series of videos, Robinson claimed that Jamal attacked three girls and a boy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ded-suing-Facebook-Tommy-Robinson-claims.html

 

[wayneL]

Yeah quite right Wayne. And exactly which evil piece of xxxx was it who spread toxic false stories on Facebook that caused his followers to waterboard a Syrian refugee ?

Syrian refugee, 16, who was filmed being 'waterboarded' by school bullies is suing Facebook 'for not stopping Tommy Robinson posting accusations he violently attacked three English girls'

• Syrian refugee Jamal, 16, is going to sue Facebook over claims made about him
• Refugee was allegedly 'waterboarded' by a school bully in a shocking incident
• EDL founder Tommy Robinson made claims on the social media site about Jamal
• In a series of videos, Robinson claimed that Jamal attacked three girls and a boy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ded-suing-Facebook-Tommy-Robinson-claims.html

Fake news luvvie, look deeper

 

[Ann]

I don't know about anyone else but any time I have known the inside story of something and then have seen a news article or TV report, they have never got all the facts right.
Not only do they not get it right but they verbal people! How do I know, because I was interviewed once about 30 years ago for a TV news report and they actually cut out a few of my words in a sentence and it changed my entire meaning. Prior to this, one evening I was watching the news when the reporter mid-sentence said "This isn't true, I am not going to read it" He got up and left the camera. I never saw him again. After both these incidents I try very hard to avoid watching the news on TV.

 

[basilio]

Wanna bet ?

There is a long back story to this Wayne.

Tommy Robinson threatened with legal action over 'bully' video
Far-right campaigner posted video identifying and interviewing boy accused of bullying Syrian refugee
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...threatened-with-legal-action-over-bully-video

Bullied Syrian schoolboy to sue Facebook over Tommy Robinson claims
Social network gave ‘special status’ to English Defence League founder, say solicitors
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...oy-to-sue-facebook-over-tommy-robinson-claims

 

[wayneL]

The Guardian basilio. There was actually some fake news from both side of the divide but the whole narrative was fake my friend.

 

[wayneL]

Anyway what has that got to do with the Covington boys getting threatened for doing absolutely nothing wrong

 

[wayneL]

A great article from the toxic The Atlantic no less.

Kudos to the author for admitting the own goal.

 

[basilio]

What happens to people who have been targeted by the current wave of Alt right/totally insane keyboard warriors ?
People who are fitted up for heinous crimes which they know nothing about ?
Parents who have had children murdered by gunman and then hounded from town to town by unspeakable xrseholes who call these massacres "stunts" and the grieving families "actors" ?


Trapped in a hoax: survivors of conspiracy theories speak out
According to a recent study, half of the American public endorses at least one conspiracy theory. Photograph: Ali Smith for the Guardian
What happens to those caught up in the toxic lies of conspiracy theorists? The Guardian spoke to five victims whose lives were wrecked by falsehoods

Conspiracy theories used to be seen as bizarre expressions of harmless eccentrics. Not any more. Gone are the days of outlandish theories about Roswell’s UFOs, the “hoax” moon landings or grassy knolls. Instead, today’s iterations have morphed into political weapons. Turbocharged by social media, they spread with astonishing speed, using death threats as currency.

Together with their first cousins, fake news, they are challenging society’s trust in facts. At its most toxic, this contagion poses a profound threat to democracy by damaging its bedrock: a shared commitment to truth.

Their growing reach and scale is astonishing. A University of Chicago study estimated in 2014 that half of the American public consistently endorses at least one conspiracy theory. When they repeated the survey last November, the proportion had risen to 61%. The startling finding was echoed by a recent study from the University of Cambridge that found 60% of Britons are wedded to a false narrative.

The trend began on obscure online forums such as the alt-right playground 4chan. Soon, media entrepreneurs realized there was money to be made – most notoriously Alex Jones, whose site InfoWars feeds its millions of readers a potent diet of lurid lies (9/11 was a government hit job; the feds manipulate the weather.)
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/23/conspiracy-theories-internet-survivors-truth

 

[TikoMike]

Jesus ******* Christ quoting The Guardian. You might as well quote Buzzfeed for their hit piece on Cohen and Trump. But good work with the straw mans in response to the 16 year old MAGA hat wearing kid with a smirk.

 

[rederob]

I don't know about anyone else but any time I have known the inside story of something and then have seen a news article or TV report, they have never got all the facts right.

Reminds me about the children overboard affair back in 2001. Although in that case it was the media being fed a pack of lies by government. When I first saw the pictures there was no evidence that anyone had been thrown overboard. I was working for the Dep't of Defence at the time and made personal inquiries - common knowledge in Defence was seemingly only "common" in Defence. Despite everything you may have read the government of the day knowing lied (immediately prior to the federal election) and all the people involved in the cover up continued to be promoted in both the bureaucracy and military.
A good book to read about the incident is by Tony Kevin.
And here's the clincher. Despite a 576 page Senate inquiry into the incident, it was impossible to access the key players because the Senate was blocked by a cabinet decision. Cabinet decided to fence off ministerial and prime ministerial conduct from the reach of the inquiry by refusing access to ministerial and prime ministerial staff and to public servants serving in ministerial offices at the time.

 

[basilio]

Jesus ******* Christ quoting The Guardian. You might as well quote Buzzfeed for their hit piece on Cohen and Trump. But good work with the straw mans in response to the 16 year old MAGA hat wearing kid with a smirk.

Really TK ? So what do you reckon mate ? That those poor xuckers who were targeted by the insane right didn't exist ? That in fact the Alex Jones hit job on the massacre at Sandy Hook primary school was spot on and that all the grieving parents were paid actors ?

Is that what you truly believe ? Did you actually read the story or simply decided that because it was published in The Guardian you could summarily wave your hand and dismiss it as either lies or propaganda ?
Or are you just on another God almighty troll and doing a Trump act where dismissal and lies replace facts and reality. Honestly with that attitude I can see you front and centre hounding those poor xuckers on your keyboard.

 

[basilio]

Latest story coming out is the use of a fake grass roots organisations by the Glencore coal group to spread pro coal messages on Facebook. And of course George Christensen managed to spread their word even further.

George Christensen defends using pro-coal posts from covert Glencore campaign
Liberal National MP dismisses concerns about the secret nature of Project Caesar messaging

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George Christensen says ‘if a coal company is sharing information that is pro-coal – great’. Photograph: Mick Tsikas/AAP
The Liberal National party MP George Christensen has defended sharing pro-coal material from a supposedly grassroots group linked to Project Caesar, Glencore’s covert communications campaign.

Glencore has attracted significant criticism for operating a multimillion-dollar shadow campaign to bolster demand for coal, run by political operatives at the C|T Group.

Project Caesar spread sophisticated pro-coal messaging on social media using “grassroots” online Facebook groups and associated websites. The aim was to shift public sentiment toward coal using arguments personally relevant to its audience. No disclosure of the links between the content and Glencore was made.

One source with knowledge of Project Caesar said a site linked to Project Caesar was “Energy in Australia”, a Facebook group and associated website which pushed pro-coal, anti-renewable messaging to an audience of more than 20,000 people.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-pro-coal-posts-from-covert-glencore-campaign

 

[kahuna1]

I found this to be illuminating ...


all true of course !!

 

[dutchie]

No wonder the US Mass Media has absolutely no credibility around the world....

 

[qldfrog]

About fake new and gw, and the damage on bith real preservation work and the youth moral
This is actually criminal...
Interesting article:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...thing-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong/

 

[rederob]

Interesting article:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...thing-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong/

You know that is NOT science, and never yet have you had a credible comment on climate, making you a principal proponent of "fake news" at ASF.

 

[dutchie]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - “The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.”

Thunberg in her new book, “Around 2030 we will be in a position to set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will lead to the end of our civilization as we know it.”

Now, that's science!

 

[explod]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - “The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.”

Thunberg in her new book, “Around 2030 we will be in a position to set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will lead to the end of our civilization as we know it.”

Now, that's science!

I feel, and that is not science, that it's too late regardless of what we do.

However there will be some who can afford to set up self sustaining enclosed environments where they can survive. However where they place themselves will be critical as landmasses will also crumble IM very HO.

Time for a scotch.