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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.9%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.8%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.9%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 24 12.2%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    196
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You have done it again Smurf, thanks for taking the time.

Maybe some of the water resource drawbacks of hydro could be overcome by coastal plants using seawater ? The upper reservoir would still have to be built, but the lower one is already there. Pros and cons ?
 
luutzu said:
Alright. Deal. Five bucks and the best rum LiquorLand or Woolies can provide.

So in its first year, if your car incurred $100 or more from overstaying at any Tesla charge station, I win ya.
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I am not a fancy guy, just get me a bottle go bundy, lol.
 
SirRumpole said:
You have done it again Smurf, thanks for taking the time.

Maybe some of the water resource drawbacks of hydro could be overcome by coastal plants using seawater ? The upper reservoir would still have to be built, but the lower one is already there. Pros and cons ?
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I'll respond in the energy thread and leave this one to cars.
 
I saw the rear of a Tesla vehicle on a youtube video relatively unscathed after a rear end hit while the car doing the hit was written off. The commentator thought this was good for the Tesla vehicle. Wrong.
Crumple zones are designed into vehicles to absorb the impact and "control deformation". Otherwise the occupant will return the force of impact equally. Not good for the occupant. Also IIHS had an interesting view.

The IIHS said that, during the test, the Model S’s seat belt did not prevent the driver’s head from hitting the steering wheel hard through the deployed air bag.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...l-s-crash-test-findings-iihs-2017-7?r=US&IR=T
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Wysiwyg said:
I saw the rear of a Tesla vehicle on a youtube video relatively unscathed after a rear end hit while the car doing the hit was written off. The commentator thought this was good for the Tesla vehicle. Wrong.
Crumple zones are designed into vehicles to absorb the impact and "control deformation". Otherwise the occupant will return the force of impact equally. Not good for the occupant. Also IIHS had an interesting view.
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Tesla understands crumple zones, everyone in the auto industry does, but you don't want the car to crumple onto the passengers as the Volvo S60 did.

In fact, Tesla has the best crumple zones, because they don't have an engine in the front, the entire front of the vehicle is crumple space, but they have made sure the passenger compartment doesn't crumple.

 
One would think EV adoption would require a serious reduction in battery replacement costs and an extension of replacement time. 15k every 10 years is ridiculous.
Tesla Australia has never confirmed how much it will cost to replace a degrading battery pack. However, Tesla's global website estimates replacing a Model S 85's battery to be $US12,000 ($AU15,799). The company is banking on the cost depreciating within eight years, which is when the warranty provided for the batteries expires.
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Wysiwyg said:
One would think EV adoption would require a serious reduction in battery replacement costs and an extension of replacement time. 15k every 10 years is ridiculous.
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They battery will out live the car.

Do you take into consideration the replacement cost of a car engine when looking at buying a car? if not why not? is it because the cars engine normally lasts longer than the car? if so you can look at a battery the same.
 
Wysiwyg said:
Tesla banking on future increased battery efficiencies with their latest claims.
Tesla’s Newest Promises Break the Laws of Batteries
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-newest-promises-break-the-laws-of-batteries


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This is where the rubber hits the road;
I'll never be in the head of the young Rockefeller back in 1850 odd, pre the era of the internal combustion engine by a few decades and at a time where there was not much use for the oil oozing out of the ground except for kero for lamps and grease for wagon wheels. But i'll hazzad the guess it was his guess at energy density and at low cost plus societal need married to technological capacity for innovation( fundamental optimism) were drivers.
Your bog ordanry back block farrier of the 1870s couldn't possibly have seen the transportation future hurtling toward them then. That future was to constrain their skills to not much more than an historical novelty (note*... I have great respect for the craftsmanship of those who wish to carry forward skills that would otherwise be lost due to industrial triumphalism. For those with interest please see ;

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But the modern day metaphorical equivalents are just as blind.
Nobody here ( I hope) is going to suggest to their children or grand children to invest their superannuation in colonial gunsmithing associated manufacture as a path to an economic future, the same way as they should be laughing at clowns tossing up lumps of coal as baubles of progress in Australia's 2017 parliament.
The fundamental economic mathematic$ regard the future of electric motivated transportation are unavoidably compelling.
The financial opportunities; manifold ...??? ... well ...Rockfellers descendants, amongst others, are working their way to monetise exactly this.
 
orr said:
This is where the rubber hits the road;
I'll never be in the head of the young Rockefeller back in 1850 odd, pre the era of the internal combustion engine by a few decades and at a time where there was not much use for the oil oozing out of the ground except for kero for lamps and grease for wagon wheels. But i'll hazzad the guess it was his guess at energy density and at low cost plus societal need married to technological capacity for innovation( fundamental optimism) were drivers.
Your bog ordanry back block farrier of the 1870s couldn't possibly have seen the transportation future hurtling toward them then. That future was to constrain their skills to not much more than an historical novelty (note*... I have great respect for the craftsmanship of those who wish to carry forward skills that would otherwise be lost due to industrial triumphalism. For those with interest please see ;

)
But the modern day metaphorical equivalents are just as blind.
Nobody here ( I hope) is going to suggest to their children or grand children to invest their superannuation in colonial gunsmithing associated manufacture as a path to an economic future, the same way as they should be laughing at clowns tossing up lumps of coal as baubles of progress in Australia's 2017 parliament.
The fundamental economic mathematic$ regard the future of electric motivated transportation are unavoidably compelling.
The financial opportunities; manifold ...??? ... well ...Rockfellers descendants, amongst others, are working their way to monetise exactly this.
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Rockefeller nearly went broke due to the electric grid and light bulbs killing demand for kerosene.

But the combustion engine car saved him.

Now the electric grid looked to be under threat from solar and batteries.

But the grid will be saved by the electric car.

Its taken over 100 years, but the electric boys are finalling taking on Rockefeller in the car game.
 
Value Collector said:
Convincing Your wife to let you buy an electric car.

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Maths, logic, sweat talks... OR

Or do what a wiser man I know advises and just buy one. Come home with it to "surprise" her.

She gets upset, either pack the kids off to her parents or give you the silent treatment for a couple of weeks.

Imagine being left alone with your new toy for two straight weeks. Bloody. Paid for itself. :D
 
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