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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.9%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.8%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.9%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 24 12.2%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    196
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Want to see an autonomous driving vehicle, check this out.:eek:



The problem is it will need trainer wheels at a stop sign. :roflmao:
Just imagine, Perth to Kalgoorlie, wind in your hair, kicked back reading a book, what a life that's what I call easyrider.
 
sptrawler said:
Want to see an autonomous driving vehicle, check this out.:eek:



The problem is it will need trainer wheels at a stop sign. :roflmao:
Just imagine, Perth to Kalgoorlie, wind in your hair, kicked back reading a book, what a life that's what I call easyrider.
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The motorbike courier riders must be worried.
 
Help me here!
There is only ONE electric car company that counts. ONE ....TSLA. And it's stock goes from $560US to $786US in the last 5 days....and from this thread?
I'm glad my information comes from elsewhere....

And under this government the opportunities re Australia ... are 'Elsewhere'...
 
orr said:
Help me here!
There is only ONE electric car company that counts. ONE ....TSLA. And it's stock goes from $560US to $786US in the last 5 days....and from this thread?
I'm glad my information comes from elsewhere....

And under this government the opportunities re Australia ... are 'Elsewhere'...
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Actually one of the biggest posters on this thread owns a Tesla model 3, so there is plenty of info and interest.
I'm not sure anyone has Tesla shares though, I know everyone wishes they did.
 
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orr said:
Help me here!
There is only ONE electric car company that counts. ONE ....TSLA. And it's stock goes from $560US to $786US in the last 5 days....and from this thread?
I'm glad my information comes from elsewhere....

And under this government the opportunities re Australia ... are 'Elsewhere'...
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Why don't you start a TSLA stock discussion thread if you want to discuss the specifics relating to TSLA stock.

This thread is more about electric cars and related technology in general.

I own a Tesla car, but I own Zero TSLA stock, and don't really follow it closely.
 
Value Collector said:
Why don't you start a TSLA stock discussion thread if you want to discuss the specifics relating to TSLA stock.

This thread is more about electric cars and related technology in general.

I own a Tesla car, but I own Zero TSLA stock, and don't really follow it closely.
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Sorry correction... $560US to $922US (as I post) in five days... It appears I may possibly have incorrectly made the assumption that this had some relevance to the thread..
 
One of those life changing opportunities right in front of all of us right now.
I know a few people who own enough Tesla Shares to change their life.

one bought under $100 and another at Just under $200.

me I don’t have any but am excited and happy for friends and family who do.

some valuations go as high as over $10000

which I’d see as fanciful until I see Berkshire Hathaways stock price.

if Space X is floated I’ll be on it in a flash!
 
Interesting point made by Angus Taylor regarding electric cars, it sounds as though a national strategy is being developed, which will be good especially if it legislates standard voltages and plugs for electric vehicle charging infrastructure.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...cores-untapped-potential-20200202-p53wx3.html
From the article:
Federal Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor said as part of a $3.5 billion climate solutions package, the government was developing a National Electric Vehicle Strategy, to be finalised by the middle of the year.

He said the strategy would ensure a "planned and managed transition" to the new vehicle technology so that Australians who "choose to adopt new technologies are supported in doing so".

IMO that is exactly what the Federal Government should be getting involved in, something that requires standard roll out across Australia.
 
sptrawler said:
IMO that is exactly what the Federal Government should be getting involved in, something that requires standard roll out across Australia.
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The Federal and State governments could get the ball rolling by converting their fleets to EV's to set an example.

They can't expect others to do what they don't can they ?
 
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SirRumpole said:
The Federal and State governments could get the ball rolling by converting their fleets to EV's to set an example.

The can't expect others to do what they don't can they ?
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That is a good idea Rumpy, if the infra structure is in place I can't see why they wouldn't do it, it isn't as though there is an Australian car industry to protect.
Who knows it may well encourage a small new industry, like the Bolwell brothers.:xyxthumbs

From the earlier article I posted:
Infrastructure Australia, the government's independent infrastructure adviser, has called for the fast-tracking of a national charging network to allow for a smooth transition to the electrification of the transport sector - particularly along highways, in regional Australia and in urban centres.

It appears there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than is immediately obvious, also it probably isn't as attention grabbing for the media, when it is quietly happening in the background.:D

My guess is there will be a big push later in the year, to roll out a standard charger network, it is better IMO to have the technical side organised before getting started.
At the moment the car makers haven't really agreed on a standard plug, let alone voltage, my guess is Australia will say any electric vehicle sold in Australia must be able to take "x" plug and 'Y' charging voltage.
Similar to what happened with mobile phones, Australia is too big and sparsely populated to have vehicles stuck half way across the Nullabor, because they have a different plug or the voltage isn't suitable.
The problem is picking a plug and voltage, that future proofs the infrastructure, there is no point in pulling it out of thin air, a lot of thought and planning will be required.
Especially on the voltage, from memory Tesla's have a 480v system, which isn't much good if the place where the charger is in the middle of nowhere, only has a 250v mains supplying it a step up transformers would be required.
Just an example.
It actually becomes a safety issue IMO.
 
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SirRumpole said:
The motorbike courier riders must be worried.
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VMT recently signed an agreement to supply eMoped with electric bikes for ridesharing, couriering makes sense in this space too.
Just need them to get autonomous as well.
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Regardless, I reckon legislation will require a rider/driver to be present in vehicles for quite some time yet.
 
sptrawler said:
That is a good idea Rumpy, if the infra structure is in place I can't see why they wouldn't do it, it isn't as though there is an Australian car industry to protect.
Who knows it may well encourage a small new industry, like the Bolwell brothers.:xyxthumbs

From the earlier article I posted:
Infrastructure Australia, the government's independent infrastructure adviser, has called for the fast-tracking of a national charging network to allow for a smooth transition to the electrification of the transport sector - particularly along highways, in regional Australia and in urban centres.

It appears there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than is immediately obvious, also it probably isn't as attention grabbing for the media, when it is quietly happening in the background.:D

My guess is there will be a big push later in the year, to roll out a standard charger network, it is better IMO to have the technical side organised before getting started.
At the moment the car makers haven't really agreed on a standard plug, let alone voltage, my guess is Australia will say any electric vehicle sold in Australia must be able to take "x" plug and 'Y' charging voltage.
Similar to what happened with mobile phones, Australia is too big and sparsely populated to have vehicles stuck half way across the Nullabor, because they have a different plug or the voltage isn't suitable.
The problem is picking a plug and voltage, that future proofs the infrastructure, there is no point in pulling it out of thin air, a lot of thought and planning will be required.
Especially on the voltage, from memory Tesla's have a 480v system, which isn't much good if the place where the charger is in the middle of nowhere, only has a 250v mains supplying it a step up transformers would be required.
Just an example.
It actually becomes a safety issue IMO.
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Yes indeed, which I why I think that a large scale commitment in the form of government car fleets will encourage standardisation. You can bet that the fleet managers and drivers will be up in arms if they can't get their cars charged reliably.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yes indeed, which I why I think that a large scale commitment in the form of government car fleets will encourage standardisation. You can bet that the fleet managers and drivers will be up in arms if they can't get their cars charged reliably.
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The obvious issue is that it does not make economic sense, nor environmental in many state inc looking at co2 emissions.
So it has to be taken as a subsidy , tax paid, for a technical choice.
Why not but as most of gov involvment deciding winners is usually ending in waste of resources
Not always: look at solar subsidies but often.
We are back to individual vs state, the usual socialism vs freedom of choice and decision debate
 
qldfrog said:
The obvious issue is that it does not make economic sense, nor environmental in many state inc looking at co2 emissions.
So it has to be taken as a subsidy , tax paid, for a technical choice.
Why not but as most of gov involvment deciding winners is usually ending in waste of resources
Not always: look at solar subsidies but often.
We are back to individual vs state, the usual socialism vs freedom of choice and decision debate
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The thing about electric cars, they are mobile, so can move anywhere in Australia, so it will require the Federal Government to intervene and make it an Australian standard that all the States have to comply with.
There is no point W.A going a different way to the rest of Australia, then a vehicle from the East wont function in W.A
 
Here is an interesting response to Boris Johnson's statement, the U.K will stop ICE vehicles by 2035 and to me the whole crux of the problem when the Government deems something. They end up wearing any financial problems associated with it, whether it is their fault or not, just my opinion.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/uk-au...son-s-car-ban-plan-123204.html?trackLink=SMH2
From the article:
A major automotive industry body in the UK has criticised British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's announcement that his government will ban the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars in the United Kingdom from 2035.
Johnson brought the timing forward after climate experts suggested a 2040 ban would be too late if the UK wanted to meet its target of zero carbon emissions by 2050.

The Prime Minister added that, ideally, the ban would be introduced even earlier than 2035.
The inclusion of hybrid vehicles in the ban is also an update on the original plans – which were first introduced in July 2017 – and will mean consumers can only purchase new electric or hydrogen vehicle.

"If the UK is to lead the global zero emissions agenda, we need a competitive marketplace and a competitive business environment to encourage manufacturers to sell and build here.

“A date without a plan will merely destroy value today.”

"Consumer confidence is not returning to the market and will not be helped by the government’s decision to add further confusion and instability by moving the goalposts on the end of sale of internal combustion engine cars,” Hawes said.

“While ambition is understandable, as we must address climate change and air quality concerns, blanket bans do not help short-term consumer confidence.”

Interesting times IMO.
 
sptrawler said:
Here is an interesting response to Boris Johnson's statement, the U.K will stop ICE vehicles by 2035 and to me the whole crux of the problem when the Government deems something. They end up wearing any financial problems associated with it, whether it is their fault or not, just my opinion.
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As I said before, let the government show the way instead of dictating to the plebs.
 
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