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I have had and still have ebikes and scooters and have done a lot of km's on them, the first scooters I bought were Segway ES2's and put range extender batteries on them, I have since moved them on.They probably don‘t plan on policing it, it just gives them an out if there is a fire related to an e-bike, and they get to stick the damage bill on the tenant / owner occupier.
Give a fool a reason to stuff something up and it will happen.I have had and still have ebikes and scooters and have done a lot of km's on them, the first scooters I bought were Segway ES2's and put range extender batteries on them, I have since moved them on.
One went to a friend in need and was stolen, the other went to one of my sons and is still going, it has done a lot of km's.
So the two scooters we have had for the last three years, we still use weekly.
We have five electric bikes, two are used nearly every day, the other three I will probably move on due to lack of use.
We have never had any issue with charging, I leave them on charge overnight, usually by accident, as I would normally take them off to er on safety.
Like I said most of the issues are from home baked half ar$ed setups IMO.
Give a fool a reason to stuff something up and it will happen.
Batteries are safe if they are constructed well, I think as long as you stick to quality equipment both batteries and chargers, and use common sense like not charging equipment that is damaged etc, you should be fine.I have had and still have ebikes and scooters and have done a lot of km's on them, the first scooters I bought were Segway ES2's and put range extender batteries on them, I have since moved them on.
One went to a friend in need and was stolen, the other went to one of my sons and is still going, it has done a lot of km's.
So the two scooters we have had for the last three years, we still use weekly.
We have five electric bikes, two are used nearly every day, the other three I will probably move on due to lack of use.
We have never had any issue with charging, I leave them on charge overnight, usually by accident, as I would normally take them off to er on safety.
Like I said most of the issues are from home baked half ar$ed setups IMO.
If its exercise and avoiding car use is what you recommend, why not just buy a regular bike that requires all pedal power?Batteries are safe if they are constructed well, I think as long as you stick to quality equipment both batteries and chargers, and use common sense like not charging equipment that is damaged etc, you should be fine.
I am in the market for an e-bike, I think they are great. anything that can get more people out exercising and exploring, not to mention avoiding some car use has to be great for both the environment and their physical and mental health.
A few reasons,If its exercise and avoiding car use is what you recommend, why not just buy a regular bike that requires all pedal power?
Fulfils all the above requirements, plus costs less, does not need charging, much simpler to recycle, hardly ever catches fire spontaneously, and has a smaller weight form factor on our poorly maintained roads!
Mick
My Dad is in his 70’s he has always been a cyclist, he rides about 30kms at a time about 3 days a week, but he is starting to feel his age.My two cents worth regarding purchasing an ebike:
Be brutally honest with yourself, do you want the ebike for exercise, or do you want the ebike because it makes riding a bike less work.
If it is because it is less work, buy a hub drive electric, they are cheap very simple and work very well in reducing the amount of time you need to pedal.
If you want it mainly for exercise and have a more natural riding experience, get a quality centre drive ebike with either Bosch, Shimano or Yamaha drive motor and battery.
The centre drive is just the same as riding a normal bike, no matter how much assist you have, you still have to pedal, but if you face a strong headwind or a major rise, increasing the assist is just like having stronger legs, but you still pedal and have to put in effort if you stop pedaling it stops.
The centre drive IMO is on the whole much nicer experience, but much dearer to purchase, IMO it is worth the extra money and is the reason I'm selling the hub drives.
I prefer to ride a normal bike, over the hub drive ebike, I just don't find them enjoyable.
They are o.k if you just want a non car, fast form of transport, but zero enjoyment for me.
You get what you pay for IMO.
Most definitely. Been a few over here in recent times.Some information from NSW Fire & Rescue. Given they are the people who are called to put out the blaze which was caused by effwittery, it would be nice if people took notice. The hint is don't use after-market chargers.
Pretty sure other the firies on other States have similar suggestions.
Yes I'm 69 this year and in the same boat as your Dad, I've had both knees and a hip replaced, but have always been active. The wife and I do similar to your Dad 30km every second day, I use the assist same as your Dad on economy (low), while the wife doesn't use the battery at all she leaves it switched off, but it is there if she needs it. She is 67 but a fitness nut.My Dad is in his 70’s he has always been a cyclist, he rides about 30kms at a time about 3 days a week, but he is starting to feel his age.
So he recently got an electric bike, I think it’s a centre drive, he has to pedal to make it work, but has a few different assist settings, he loves it. Most of the time he has it on low assist, so is still getting good exercise, but his aging legs don’t have to stress going up hills, and he can make it home easier if he bites off more than he can chew.
So do you class yourself as an obese person?A few reasons,
1, an e-bike can encourage an obese person or some one with really low fitness to take up riding, where they would normally avoid it totally. It can get them out there enjoying activities with family without the worry of being embarrassed, by having push the bike up hill or lagging behind in a sweaty mess.
2. Even a fit person can benefit by having an e-bike as it is effectively a range extender, allowing them to travel further than they would normally be comfortable with while runnings errands or allow them to travel with greater ease in hot weather etc in situations they don't want to arrive a work or friends housing sweating.
Sorry, I thought you said you were inn the market for an ebike.3. They are great for working riders such as Uber eats or bicycle couriers, because again it’s a range extender, and in and around metropolitan areas can be faster than cars.
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Yeah I am in the market for an e-bike, mainly because I want to start riding with my dad, and although I am not obese, I am not as fit as I used to be and probably carrying about 8kg more than is ideal and he is on an e-bike, so I probably need one to keep up.I could have sworn you said in your post you were in the market for an ebike.
So do you class yourself as an obese person?
Sorry, I thought you said you were inn the market for an ebike.
How long have you been contemplating being an UBER eats person?
Mick
If your carrying 8kg's more than is ideal, leave your wallet at home when you go for a ride, that should do it.I am not as fit as I used to be and probably carrying about 8kg more than is ideal and he is on an e-bike, so I probably need one to keep up.
I did that by mistake yesterday actually, so glad Apple Pay existsIf your carrying 8kg's more than is ideal, leave your wallet at home when you go for a ride, that should do it.
After I got that email from Evie telling me of the price increases, I did some quick calcs on driving the BYD versus driving my ICE Ranger.Electric-car charging network Evie increases prices by up to 40 per cent
One of Australia's largest electric-vehicle charging networks – Evie – has increased prices for the second time in six months.www.drive.com.au
Also, you get to charge at home before you leave on your trip and when you return home at cheaper rates. so it’s only that middle section of your journey that you need to buy more expensive electricity.After I got that email from Evie telling me of the price increases, I did some quick calcs on driving the BYD versus driving my ICE Ranger.
The BYD at 100kmhr usually sucks up about 20 KWhr, so thats around $11.60 per 100km at the 50KW chargers, which is mostly what we use.
The ranger does about 12 litres diesel per 100km at the same speed, which at 1.80 per litre is $21.60.
So its still a lot cheaper to drive the EV.
Mick
Extreme cold is harsh on all cars, even petrol cars need to be hooked up to electricity to keep them warm, or set so their engine turns on automatically every hour or so in some places.Interesting article on the effect extremely cold weather has on E.V range, fortunately Australia generally isn't an extremely cold place.
EVs Lose 30% Of Their Range On Average In The Winter Vs. Ideal Conditions
Tesla models seem to be the worst offenders when comparing the observed winter range to the original EPA range.insideevs.com
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Interesting article on the effect extremely cold weather has on E.V range, fortunately Australia generally isn't an extremely cold place.
EVs Lose 30% Of Their Range On Average In The Winter Vs. Ideal Conditions
Tesla models seem to be the worst offenders when comparing the observed winter range to the original EPA range.insideevs.com
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