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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.9%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.8%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.9%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 24 12.2%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    196
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farmerge said:
Makes one wonder aboutthe safety aspect of an overloaded vehicle.
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Just that while a Tesla advantage economically, environmentally or day to day living is minimal; except for the water exposure crossing creeks EV UTVs are perfect: range no issue,torque a real advantage..I am not talking about flooring it when light turns green...and can be left charging on the solar panels so negligible impact on grid while they consume quite a while.
Basically, they are a viable alternative and replacement option now, making sense in a free market ..a bit like electric scooters are in free market places..China SE Asia..
We are not a free market economy as EV scooters wide usage are not available here due to driving licence constraints and speed restrictions..
 
qldfrog said:
Just that while a Tesla advantage economically, environmentally or day to day living is minimal; except for the water exposure crossing creeks EV UTVs are perfect: range no issue,torque a real advantage..I am not talking about flooring it when light turns green...and can be left charging on the solar panels so negligible impact on grid while they consume quite a while.
Basically, they are a viable alternative and replacement option now, making sense in a free market ..a bit like electric scooters are in free market places..China SE Asia..
We are not a free market economy as EV scooters wide usage are not available here due to driving licence constraints and speed restrictions..
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I hope you realise that the UTV is no comparison whatsoever to a Tesla.

“applications in agriculture, hunting, recreation, other general off-road riding scenarios.”​
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Other than having 4 wheels and electric, but so is my neighbours disability scooter.
 
Good morning
Interesting article rcw1 read amongst other things this morning, snapshot being:

Salary packaging and novated lease specialist Smartgroup says Novated leasing leads rose 31 per cent in the first quarter to March 31, with new lease vehicle orders up 7 per cent and settlements increasing 12 per cent on the prior comparable period. Novated leasing yields are up 3 per cent versus pcp.

The group, noted electric vehicle quotes are now more than 20 per cent of total Smartgroup novated leasing quotes.

Smartgroup chief executive Tim Looi said operational momentum continued in 2023 with strong lease enquiries and order levels, including a significant uplift in electric vehicle interest.

Have a very nice week in paradise.

Kind regards
rcw1
 
farmerge said:
Makes one wonder aboutthe safety aspect of an overloaded vehicle.
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Safety doesn’t seem to be a concern here, because… you know “Freedom” etc etc… you don’t even need a Helmet on your motorcycle, and your passengers can ride in the back of the Ute.

It’s weird, you don’t need a helmet on a motorcycle, but you can’t swim in the river without a life vest.
 
Value Collector said:
Safety doesn’t seem to be a concern here, because… you know “Freedom” etc etc… you don’t even need a Helmet on your motorcycle, and your passengers can ride in the back of the Ute.
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Yes when you travel, you realise what a nanny state Australia is. :xyxthumbs
There are a lot of rules and regulations in Australia, that in other countries come under the heading of common sense.
A classic in W.A is at all the railway crossings in Perth, there is a zig zag entrance to the pedestrian crossing, with an accompanying clanging bell and added to that is a remote locking gate. It's nice but a little bit of overkill IMO, especially when people can just walk around and walk under the boom gate.
Whoever designed it probably was thinking about Tommy the deaf dumb and blind kid going to the pinball parlour.
 
sptrawler said:
Yes when you travel, you realise what a nanny state Australia is. :xyxthumbs
There are a lot of rules and regulations in Australia, that in other countries come under the heading of common sense.
A classic in W.A is at all the railway crossings in Perth, there is a zig zag entrance to the pedestrian crossing, with an accompanying clanging bell and added to that is a remote locking gate. It's nice but a little bit of overkill IMO, especially when people can just walk around and walk under the boom gate.
Whoever designed it probably was thinking about Tommy the deaf dumb and blind kid going to the pinball parlour.
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Yep, it is weird though to think you can ride a motorcycle at 130km/hr with no helmet, to the river but if you go waist deep in the river without a life vest you get an $86 fine hahaha
 
Keep your ICEV locked up.

Just spoke to a guy that lives a few streets from work, got in his car yesterday morning and his Mitsubishi Outlander sounded like a truck. Looked underneath and found that someone had stolen the catalytic converter, unbolted part of it, cut the rear and some wires for the O2 sensor. Parts are going to be over a thousand dollars. Police told him it is a common theft these days.
 

Australia’s National Electric Vehicle Strategy​


19 April 2023 3:39pm
The Australian Government has announced its National Electric Vehicle (EV) Strategy.
The strategy paves the way for greater EV affordability, access to charging stations, and a massive reduction in emissions. Initiatives also focus on expanded EV availability and options for buyers.
The strategy was informed by public consultation, with more than 1,500 individuals and over 200 organisations provided feedback.

Next steps​

The state and territory governments have agreed to 6 key areas of collaboration with the Australian Government to enable the transition to EVs:
  • National standards
  • Data sharing
  • EV affordability
  • Remote and regional EV charging infrastructure
  • Fleet procurement
  • Education and awareness.

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JohnDe said:
Keep your ICEV locked up.

Just spoke to a guy that lives a few streets from work, got in his car yesterday morning and his Mitsubishi Outlander sounded like a truck. Looked underneath and found that someone had stolen the catalytic converter, unbolted part of it, cut the rear and some wires for the O2 sensor. Parts are going to be over a thousand dollars. Police told him it is a common theft these days.
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He just got the quote from the Mitsi dealership, $2975, and the main part is not due in until August.
 
JohnDe said:
Is it Hydrogen or electric? Last I heard, Toyota was concentrating on hydrogen vehicles and saw no future in battery EVs.
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It's a Hydrogen fuel cell system. The hydrogen is passed through a fuel cell and produces electricity which then drives an electric motor.
It is one part of the trial systems electric buses.

I really wonder why engineers havn't looked at removing the current diesel motors from buses and replacing them with electric drives and a battery bank. It has already been done for trucks so a certain amount of the engineering is sorted.

The future has arrived – Hydrogen Buses​


www.transitsystems.com.au

The future has arrived – Hydrogen Buses — Transit Systems | Bus Network Public Transport Operator | NSW | SA | WA | NT | UK | Singapore

It is with great excitement Foton Mobility and Transit Systems announce an Australian first, the arrival of two hydrogen fuel cell buses - marking a new era in mass transport sustainability. The hydrogen buses are equipped with the fuel cell system jointly developed by SinoHytec and Toyota, after
www.transitsystems.com.au www.transitsystems.com.au
 
JohnDe said:
Is it Hydrogen or electric? Last I heard, Toyota was concentrating on hydrogen vehicles and saw no future in battery EVs.
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Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are Electric vehicles they just source the electricity from a fuel cell rather than a battery.

Everything about the bus will be electric, it just has a fuel cell and hydrogen tank instead of a battery.

It’s a way to keep the petrol station companies in business and make home charging more out of reach.
 
Boggo said:
Irony ?
Apparently on its way to the truck show in Brisbane to demonstrate electric advantages.

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Irony??? Wouldn’t most of the concept vehicles that go to truck and car shows be transported in similar ways? Especially those that operate using new fuels that don’t have refueling infrastructure yet?

Anyway, I personally think the hydrogen model is silly for buses, Battery EV makes a lot more sense, (and I am an FMG shareholder, which means I should be promoting hydrogen)

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I have seen this setup at least 10 times in the last week, multiple brand new trucks being towed in a chain, I have even seen some on the back of trains.

I don’t think it’s evidence that the trucks aren’t drivable themselves.

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Another one of my favourites I have seen regularly recently is entire trains loaded with truck trailers.

Can a truck drive across the USA? Of course it can, but it is sometimes more practical just to put 100 trailers on a train.

The point is some times what is practical seems odd, transporting a new concept vehicle to a trade show on a truck doesn’t seem that odd.

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Well it had to happen and the U.S has a lot more charging infrastructure than Australia.

www.drive.com.au

Tesla shooting at electric-car charging station in the US

Two Tesla drivers have been involved in a skirmish – with one driver shot after being sprayed with mace – during a dispute at a charging station near Denver, Colorado.
www.drive.com.au www.drive.com.au
Two Tesla drivers have been involved in a skirmish – with one driver shot after being sprayed with mace – during a dispute at a charging station near Denver, Colorado.
TV news in Denver reported the incident occurred about 10am yesterday local time and that "the shooting suspect called 911, reported what happened" and then handed themselves into police.
 
sptrawler said:
Well it had to happen and the U.S has a lot more charging infrastructure than Australia.

www.drive.com.au

Tesla shooting at electric-car charging station in the US

Two Tesla drivers have been involved in a skirmish – with one driver shot after being sprayed with mace – during a dispute at a charging station near Denver, Colorado.
www.drive.com.au www.drive.com.au
Two Tesla drivers have been involved in a skirmish – with one driver shot after being sprayed with mace – during a dispute at a charging station near Denver, Colorado.
TV news in Denver reported the incident occurred about 10am yesterday local time and that "the shooting suspect called 911, reported what happened" and then handed themselves into police.
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Why does this surprise you? Fights over fuel have been happening ever since humans needed fuel, and electricity is just another type of fuel.

people fighint over getting gas for their vehicles - Google Search

www.google.com

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