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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198

Wouldn’t that be covered under warranty?

Teslas have an 8 years warranty on the battery.
Yes LG had an issue with the way they were building the battery packs and had to recall and change a lot of 2019/20 Hyundai, Kia and some Chevy Bolt cars to replace the traction batteries.
The Kia's that had the same battery pack manufactured by SK innovation didn't have the issue.
Apparently the issue( which was something to do with end tab insulation) has been resolved and it didn't deter me from purchasing a Hyundai Kona EV, there will always be some issues with new technology, especially when processes are being scaled up IMO.
From my understanding the recall is just about complete.
By the way @farmerge did your friend keep the car, or move it on?

 
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No it was a demo model but I think he may have left something on for an extended period of time, hence the DEAD battery.
 
No it was a demo model but I think he may have left something on for an extended period of time, hence the DEAD battery.

Demonstrator vehicles carry the remaining factory warranty.

I would hazard a guess that he’s not telling you all the facts. The only thing an owner of an EV can do to kill the battery pack is to drive it until the batteries are totally drained. Pretty hard in an hybrid, unless they ran it out of liquid fuel first.
 
No it was a demo model but I think he may have left something on for an extended period of time, hence the DEAD battery.
Was it a flat battery or a dead battery? Kinda of two different things.

I agree with Johnde, I think he is not giving you all the facts some how.
 
No it was a demo model but I think he may have left something on for an extended period of time, hence the DEAD battery.
Another issue that is happening with E.V's is, a lot use an auxilliary 12v car batteries to run the auxilliary equipment eg lights, stereo, cabin fan, standby electronics etc. This can be charged by the traction battery, but the way the user sets it up can be a bit problematic, from what I understand.
I recently went away for 4 weeks, I put a 12v trickle charger on, before I left. I'm not confident in my tech knowledge of setting up the car to look after the 12v battery when I'm not using it.
 
Jogn De I'm probably not aware of all the facts surrounding this saga, but I do know he was totally brassed off coming out of a medical facility after a big shoulder op check-up to find this vehicle he was really impressed with to not being able to even open the door let alone start it.
 

Aah, that explains a lot. All car types still use a 12V acid battery (12V lithium is slowly being introduce) to operate regular functions like the central locking, radio, engine starter motor, headlights, and so on.

For your mate to be unable to open the doors, he had a dead flat 12V battery. And as you mentioned before, he probably left something on.

Mystery solved. Your mates hybrid did not have a dead lithium battery pack, he had a dead 12V battery. And like any type of ICEV, without the 12V battery it is not going to start.

I'm surprised that he didn't use the key and barrel to open the door, though I have come across some brands that hide the barrel very well. A VW Passat I came across had a dead battery, central locking could not work without power, couldn't get into the car to open the bonnet, and had to Google search how to get in - pop the plastic cover off the door handle and there was the lock barrel.
 
So a third battery in backup..hum..there is a design fault here.hopefully sorted soon..not that EV are that new
 
So a third battery in backup..hum..there is a design fault here.hopefully sorted soon..not that EV are that new

Third battery? No one I know of with an ICEV have a backup battery, other than my brothers Nissan Patrol.

The 12V battery in EVs because -

If an electric vehicle’s 12-volt battery dies, what happens? Just like in a gas-powered vehicle, the power supply to many critical systems is compromised.​
But you aren’t exactly dead in the water. It’s a typical 12-volt system, which means you’re able to jump-start the system either with a booster pack or with jumper cables connected to another vehicle.​
 
So a third battery in backup..hum..there is a design fault here.hopefully sorted soon..not that EV are that new
How many batteries does your ICE car have? What happens if you leave your lights on?
ICE cars with flat batteries is a common thing.

The car in question was a hybrid, so has limited battery storage and uses the petrol motor to charge the 12v, so will operate like an ice car and end up with a dead battery if you leave the lights on.

However full electric cars have a huge battery that they use to charge the 12v, so this wouldn’t have been an issue with an EV, but as I said common in ice cars.
 
Yeah that was proved to be the case
From what I've been hearing it can be a bit of an issue, the E.V 12v battery gets forgotten about and it probably doesn't get charged every time the car starts. I know on a forum I'm on quite a few people have talked about a failing 12v battery it is probably one of those items that the E.V companies haven't dedicated a huge amount of time in the long term health issue.
But I bought a cheap lithium jump pack just in case, apparently a lot of people on the forum recommend it and I think it is cheap insurance.
If the jump pack can kick start the E.V's electrics, you can force the main battery to charge the 12v.
There are probably other ways around it, but I'm new to the E.V game, so just feeling my way ATM.
 

Tesla recently change to installing 12V lithium batteries. My model just missed out, but I will get a message when the battery management system picks up an issue with the battery - Tesla will now send push notifications when 12V battery needs to be replaced

 
I used to have to charge my old commodore battery like that, I was constantly having battery issues with the commodore because I tended to not drive it much through the week days except for little short trips of about 2 kms, so the battery tended to drain.

But 3 years into the Tesla ownership I haven’t had to worry about the 12V, I couldn’t even tell you where it is exactly in the car, Maybe it’s under the storage area in the front, but I really don’t know ?.

I will keep neglecting it and let you guys know if I run into issues ??
 
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