Electric cars?

[Value Collector]

The $88867 would have been paid whether you bought a luxury car or just kept the money, so its a bit spurious.

Thats my point, the government is already taking such a large chunk of the income from people, So trying to think of inventive ways to add extra taxes when they spend the remaining after tax dollars is silly, especially when we already pay GST on money we spend.

You cannot get a credit of the Luxury car tax and depreciate the total amount as well on a lease.

As your quote says, they get a credit for it on the activity statement, so either way it's not going to be generating extra taxes for the government in that situation, So it does not serve the purpose you claim which was to tax uber wealthy people with business vehicle leases.

As I said it was introduced to protect a local industry which no longer exists, so yes its silly to still have the tax.

Sure, people with Tall Poppy syndrome love taxes that target people that have higher incomes than them, but the fact is that tax brackets are already set up to make sure higher income earners pay more tax, in fact the year I bought my model 3, I sent a cheque to the tax department large enough to buy 6 Tesla model 3's.

So if I am spreading sending the government 6 Tesla model 3's, I see a luxury vehicle tax designed to stiff me of another few 1000's as a bit rich, and rather unnecessary.

 

[Value Collector]

Geez, has it really come to this ?

I drove through some rain yesterday and my windscreen wipers activated with the flick of a switch.

Are some people so lazy or incompetent these days that they have to rely on software to do everything for them ?

It's the start of the decline of the human race, mark my words.

You can manually flick the switch too, but its pretty cool that it does it for you.

Especially when the rain is changing, it will speed up and slow down the wipers as needed, as well and turn them off when the rain stops, if you do activate the wipers manually it takes a picture of what the droplets look like on the windscreen and sends that back Tesla to help the AI learn when to activate the wipers.

Also, when you think about it if you are driving in autopilot or with other safety features active, you want the car to be able to clear the windscreen when ever it feels it needs to, you don't want it to have to wait for you to flick the switch.

 

[SirRumpole]

You can manually flick the switch too, but its pretty cool that it does it for you.

Especially when the rain is changing, it will speed up and slow down the wipers as needed, as well and turn them off when the rain stops.

Also, when you think about it if you are driving in autopilot or with other safety features active, you want the car to be able to clear the windscreen when ever it feels it needs to, you don't want it to have to wait for you to flick the switch.

Why would auto drive care about rain on the windshield ?

 

[Value Collector]

Why would auto drive care about rain on the windshield ?

because the forward facing camera looks through the windshield

 

[SirRumpole]

because the forward facing camera looks through the windshield

I though it was all done by radar.

 

[Value Collector]

I though it was all done by radar.

No Tesla use cameras, thats how they can see road markings, see red lights and read speed limit signs.

They are modelling human driving, eg humans don't use radar we are visual, they do have radar sensors to to detect distance from objects though, but its mostly visual camera data that is used to drive

 

[Value Collector]

@SirRumpole

check out this video at 50 minute mark, you will see Teslas top engineer explaining how they are teaching the cars to drive using the camera data.

 

[JohnDe]

Why is software and updates important for EVs in the 21st century?

Watch the first 4 minutes of this video -

 

[qldfrog]

On the subject of the network, I have received a VIN number so I thought join chargefox and get ready.
I looked at where I would charge if I decided to go to Albany again as I did a couple of weeks ago, the only 50Kw charger on the Albany highway for type 2 cars is at Kojonup, it has a CHAdeMO and a CCS2 port only the CHADeMO is operational.
Really I'm beginning to think I should have waited and bought the Tesla model Y, as Tesla is the only vehicle in W.A that a person can travel any distance and know there is a charging network that has reasonable coverage.
If there is any rapid up take of E.V's in W.A there will be chaos, as the wife has said, if we want to go up North or down to Albany, Esperance etc we will just have to hire an ICE car.
Which really isn't a good advertisement for E.V's, my guess is sometime next year there will be a lot of coverage on the news of violence associated with E.V charging in W.A.

But ev people are cool dudes, cashed up hippies so there will be no fight, just flowers throwing competition

 

[qldfrog]

I though it was all done by radar.

No, there is A LOT of computer vision involved, radar are not orecise rnought, good for distances etc not for AI filtereing of cyclist, pedestrian, children vs animals etc.
From IT point of view, the more sensors types the better

 

[qldfrog]

No, there is A LOT of computer vision involved, radar are not orecise rnought, good for distances etc not for AI filtereing of cyclist, pedestrian, children vs animals etc.
From IT point of view, the more sensors types the better

Sadly i read this again far too late and can not fix typos:
"No, there is A LOT of computer vision involved, radar are not precise enough, good for distances etc not for AI filtering of cyclist, pedestrian, children vs animals etc."

 

[SirRumpole]

Sadly i read this again far too late and can not fix typos:
"No, there is A LOT of computer vision involved, radar are not precise enough, good for distances etc not for AI filtering of cyclist, pedestrian, children vs animals etc."

Funny, I read your first try and didn't recognise any mistakes !

It shows our brains fill in the gaps when required.

 

[qldfrog]

Funny, I read your first try and didn't recognise any mistakes !

It shows our brains fill in the gaps when required.

yes but it makes me very cranky to see all these , against myself.
I am a non english language person, and have a latin streak..so passionate/fast typing but try to be pedantic with spelling..enough missing forms or grammar misused without these stupid typos or mistakes.
Better on the laptop usually but that is not when i usually type
Posted a few interesting link on EV garbage trucks on the PH2 thread if anyone interested

 

[mullokintyre]

yes but it makes me very cranky to see all these , against myself.
I am a non english language person, and have a latin streak..so passionate/fast typing but try to be pedantic with spelling..enough missing forms or grammar misused without these stupid typos or mistakes.
Better on the laptop usually but that is not when i usually type
Posted a few interesting link on EV garbage trucks on the PH2 thread if anyone interested

We have been making allowances for you for ages Mr French Amphibian.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Now we are talking, put me down for one of these, when they get to a sensible price. 111Kwh battery.

2022 Volkswagen ID. Buzz: Electric Kombi on wish list for Australia

Volkswagen is moving closer to a production confirmation for a dual-cab pick-up version of its ID. Buzz as the company's Australian arm finalises details for local sales of its new-age electric delivery van and people mover.

www.drive.com.au

 

[qldfrog]

Now we are talking, put me down for one of these, when they get to a sensible price. 111Kwh battery.

2022 Volkswagen ID. Buzz: Electric Kombi on wish list for Australia

Volkswagen is moving closer to a production confirmation for a dual-cab pick-up version of its ID. Buzz as the company's Australian arm finalises details for local sales of its new-age electric delivery van and people mover.

www.drive.com.au

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Is that a cardboard model or a cartoon character?.waohh will need acquired taste?

 

[sptrawler]

Is that a cardboard model or a cartoon character?.waohh will need acquired taste?

I don't mind what it looks like as long as it has a great range, is comfortable and I can fit my toys in the back and take the grandkids camping.
At my age no matter how ugly the car is, I'm uglier.

 

[qldfrog]

I don't mind what it looks like as long as it has a great range, is comfortable and I can fit my toys in the back and take the grandkids camping.
At my age no matter how ugly the car is, I'm uglier.

I know your paon, and did not even need to reach old age to face that myself?

 

[sptrawler]

I can't wait to see how this will drive down the price of electric cars, my back of the napkin guess is it will give legacy manufacturers carte blanche to lift the price of ICE cars to the same as electric cars and stop the importation of reasonably priced existing ICE cars.

But hey just keep telling us that things will get cheaper, electric cars will get cheaper, because we will stop allowing reasonably priced ICE cars to be imported. The muppets will suck that up.
At least now we know how they are going to get the ICE cars off the road and force people into E.V's, 'smog tests anyone'?

How's this for double speak.? The honest bit is?
"Danca Maria".

Bowen sets his sights on tough vehicle emissions standards

The climate change and energy minister says only by quickly introducing fuel efficiency standards in line with world’s best practice can Australia expect to drive down the cost of EVs domestically.

www.theage.com.au

Average emissions from Australians’ cars would have to fall dramatically and rapidly to meet the ambitions of fuel efficiency standards flagged by Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen.

Bowen told an electric vehicle conference in Canberra on Friday that only by quickly introducing fuel efficiency standards in line with world’s best practice could Australia expect to drive down the cost of EVs domestically and expand the range of models available.

Bowen said because Australia did not mandate the sale of cleaner vehicles, car companies sent their limited supplies of electric models to jurisdictions that did, leaving models with older, dirtier technology for Australia.

“What the commentators and naysayers who bag electric vehicles as unaffordable and unavailable in Australia deliberately ignore is that this unaffordability and unavailability is a direct result of policy decisions. In fact, Australian policy failures,” he said.

 

[JohnDe]

Are BYD ensuring that one of the big dealerships ends up taking over their brand, by making it compulsory for owners to service like they do an ICEV?

"hidden $3100 cost revealed"