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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
Telsa model Y is now available for order in Australia.

This is the one that Mrs VC wants to replace the Model 3 with eventually, it’s built on the same base as the model 3 but has a much bigger boot among other improvements that give it more space and storage.
 
This is how North Carolina Republicans intend to (not) progress electric cars.
You have to read the article. Something else..
I wonder what they would do if electric charging cost was amended to a dime per charge ?

This US state’s radical anti-electric car proposal to ban free EV charging

North Carolina is facing a House Bill that will effectively spell the end of free public electric car charging.

 
That’s the dumbest thing I have heard, but what should we expect from a state that has already brought in an annual EV tax that means every EV owner has to pay a set amount each year regardless of how much they drive which is equivalent to the fuel tax that a hybrid petrol car owner would spend if they drove 67,000 km per year.
 
FMD!! That is beyond reason.. Do you have a link for that story please ?
 
Our governments should take a page out of the proposed US National EV Charging Network, instead of just throwing tax cuts for well funded people to buy EVs -

 
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FMD!! That is beyond reason.. Do you have a link for that story please ?
Here is a link with the breakdown of all the states in the USA that charge additional fees for EV’s

In the USA petrol users pay 4.8 cents per Litre (18cents per gallon), in North Carolina the charge Ev’s an additional EV tax of $140 / year which doesn’t sound that much until you realise that to generate that revenue from the petrol tax at 4.8 cents a Litre a Hybrid using a little under 4L / 100 km needs to drive over 60,000 km.

https://www.myev.com/research/inter...rge-extra-fees-to-own-an-electric-vehicle/amp
 
Basically, ute can not be replaced but for the daily run to the post office, cafe and occasional shopping, a 50km or 60km pure ev range is plenty and that would be the purpose.but true considering the price difference, why not going fulll bbq starter?.
I just hate producing power and giving away for basically free..and as i still plan to move soon, not ready to go full off grid with battery..so a PI hybrid or pure EV is a half way which can move with us....
But not at Tesla price.i never bought a beemer to be a gold wearing white shirt wxxxer, so no interest to be a green woke one either?
 
My wife and I were in WA for a few weeks recently, and hired an MG to travel around the south west.
Had originally booked a Subaru Forester but got a brand new MG instead.
Neither of us were very impressed.
The headlights were terrible - the fancy overhang they have at the front created a black spot either side of the beam.
The cruise control surged something chronic, and the auto gearbox was never quite sure when to change from 1st to second after takeoff resulting in a sort of hesitation around 20k an hour.
The cruise control stalk is placed underneath the steering wheel binacle such that you cannot see it when driving, it has to be operated by feel. Not great on the ergonomics.
The USB charging ports worked intermittently even after we went and bought a new cable thinking ours was faulty.
The good part, the seats were comfortable, and the climate control worked well.
I would not be looking at an MG based on that trial.
Mick
 
Thanks,will make sure i test drive before buying
 

"Can Eurocrats be blamed for craving a bit of the spotlight their national counterparts enjoy? The phone-charger rule provoked more headlines than decades of sensible proposals on regulating chemicals or life insurance ever have, and for which Brussels deserves more credit than it gets. Mandating how phones are juiced is a case of the eu getting closer to the daily concerns of citizens—but also further from where it can be most useful."

 
Sounds like Victoria is picking up the pace with E.V infrastructure roll out, hopefully W.A follows the elad.
From the article:
Demand on public charging stations is increasing, with the number of EVs on Victorian roads tripling over just three years. Data from the state government released in March shows there were 10,311 registered electric vehicles in Victoria in June 2021, up from 3398 vehicles in June 2018.
There are now more than 960 charging stations in Victoria, according to EV charger map Plugshare.com.

Minister for Training and Skills Gayle Tierney said there was “momentum” building up around EV purchases in Victoria, and the infrastructure needed to grow as demand increases.


The Victorian government has promised a further 141 EV chargers at 116 sites installed by July 2023, with just under 2500 rebates of $3000 still available for EVs bought for less than $68,740 in the state.
 
I wonder if this situation is across the board, it sounds as though it is becoming common place, hopefully the buyer can cancel the contract if the increase puts them in financial difficulty.


Prices across most LDV G10, T60, D90 and V80 models will increase on July 1, for all buyers that haven't taken delivery before the end of June – no matter how long you've been in the queue.
Chinese brand LDV will increase prices across four of its five model lines from 1 July – and only buyers who take delivery before the end of this month will be free from the price increases.
From 1 July, prices of the LDV's seven-seat D90 SUV, T60 Max ute, V80 van, and most G10 van variants will increase for private buyers and ABN holders by between $500 and $1053, depending on variant – attributed to increased manufacturing and shipping costs.
LDV's Australian distributor Ateco will offer "price protection" for buyers – but only if their vehicle is "delivered" before the end of this month, irrespective of when they placed an order, or when the vehicle was built.
 
If there is one thing that I especially enjoy, it has to be reading crap from people who are regarded as experts.
The linked Bloomberg intelligence global battery electric vehicle report: Automakers race to the top, has VW ahead of Tesla by 2025:

VW are so far behind they have no hope:

To get ahead you have to plan ahead, and that's what Tesla and BYD have done, much better than VW. Both these companies have been sorting out their supply chains and building new battery and EV manufacturing factories, while VW still has a massive ICEV legacy to shake off.

So as we stand, VW has to get ahead of 3 competitors, 2 of whom are just starting their global EV product launches: BYD and SAIC are already knocking out inexpensive (but not "cheap") EV's and Tesla doesn't need to because their cars sell themselves.

What Bloomberg forgets is that Tesla has something like 2M pre-orders to satisfy, while BYD's numbers continues to climb, standing around 500K at the moment. Those numbers are testimony to demand, and VW has nothing comparable.

Topping off their shambolic analysis is their view that China will have a 25% market share of BEVs in 2025, but in April China already had a 29% EV share, and only BYD's
 
... and only BYD's PHEV numbers need to decline for the BEV percentage to hit 25% in 2023 at the latest.
(BYD has retained a PHEV platform so as to maintain sourcing parts for its legacy ICEVS. It's a pretty smart move, especially during a period where charging station rollouts do not yet cover western China's distances that well.)
 
Going to see a MG dealer today.
Have a look at what they have,more interested in the byd atto3..after researches on line
but each time, my financially aware mind tells me: it makes no sense.

I looked at my daily run .not the road trips which can not be done with an ev anyways as we do dirt road out there trips when we do
I average around 200km a week for these or $32 a week fuel which could be free on EV/pi hybrid via rooftop
Let's say $50 a week if petrol goes up and up..but at that price, i can run on vegetable oil from aldi.
50x$52=$2.5k a year saving on fiel for runabout.
The first year saving..with current fuel price will go in smoke when i buy a charger and have it installed.
In 10y my battery is gone, probably more 7y but let's be optimistic
so i need to pay back the difference in 9 years at $2.5k max a year.
And that is wo km extra tax and fully free energy from PV
22.5k is the maximum extra i can spend on an ev or pi hybrid vs normal runabout.
Min price driveway for ev/PI is around 47 k so any car available below 25k driveway save me money.
And these will consume less than 8l per 100
Plenty to choose....remember, we are talking shopping/coffee run..not interstate travel and the above numbers are attrociously chosen to be pro EV as i like the tech and toy factor.
If you add the fact i already have 2 cars and do not need to buy a brand new one for a runabout, this is even crazier.
In 2022, EV or PI hybrid makes no $ sense..and not even sure environment wise...there are better ways to spend/waste your money to save the planet
Anyway,will go and see if i can be pushed to buy an EV ..after all, not all decisions are rational choices.
 
Bloomberg has numerous articles that are very poorly researched. Can't trust anything these days.
 

Yes, it is pretty stupid, but it' a forerunner to what's in store for EV owners there and here.

Governments have to replace the fuel tax revenue somehow, otherwise there have to be cutbacks in other areas.

Maybe you have some suggestions as to a fairer method of replacing fuel tax revenue ?
 
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