What does that mean?Well we wouldn't b e subsidising Elon's space jaunts for a start.
I don’t know, maybe talk to Panasonic and the other battery manufacturers, They own battery facilities all over the world, I am they don’t have anything against Australia, and if the economics did line up they would build a factory here.A couple of interesting stories
Musk says Tesla, SpaceX face 'significant' inflationary pressure
Tesla Inc Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk said the U.S. electric carmaker and his rocket company SpaceX are facing significant inflationary pressure in raw materials and logistics.www.reuters.com
Global nickel reserves by country 2023 | Statista
Indonesia and Australia had the largest nickel reserves in the world as of 2023, which amounted to a combined 79 million metric tons of the base metal.www.statista.com
Australia - nickel - batteries ?
Why don't we value add this stuff instead of just taking the export raw material and buy back the finished product option ?
Don't tell me it's due to economics, once the raw product is exported we have no say in where it goes.
This is a strategic supply, we should be exploiting it to the max.
I don’t know, maybe talk to Panasonic and the other battery manufacturers, They own battery facilities all over the world, I am they don’t have anything against Australia, and if the economics did line up they would build a factory here.
But there is more to it than just raw materials.
North Korea tries to do everything themselves, how is that working for them? That’s what happens when a country of 25 Million tries to go it alone.Yes that's right, rely on foreigners to do stuff for us.
That's what made this country 'un-great' .
North Korea tries to do everything themselves, how is that working for them? That’s what happens when a country of 25 Million tries to go it alone.
My argument is just that I don’t believe a population of 25,000,000 can actually physically supply the labour force to supply itself with all the doodads we need to live a modern life style, we need to be offshoring parts of the economy.North Korea is a failed state lead by a dill.
It is totally isolationist , that is stupid.
There are capabilities we don't have that we should have, using an extreme position of a dictatorship doesn't advance your argument.
The push to EV's is increasing.
Electric cars are surging across NSW, with more now registered in Canterbury-Bankstown and around Parramatta than anywhere else in the state as their prices fall and access to charging stations increases.‘It’s no longer a rich man’s car’: Where electric car ownership is surging in Sydney
Electric cars are surging across NSW with more now registered around Parramatta than anywhere else in the state as prices fall and access to charging stations increases.www.smh.com.au
NSW registered electric vehicles, hybrid petrol-electric cars and those using “other fuel” including hydrogen more than doubled from 37,238 to 78,644 in the two years to September 2021.
My argument is just that I don’t believe a population of 25,000,000 can actually physically supply the labour force to supply itself with all the doodads we need to live a modern life style, we need to be offshoring parts of the economy.
We already have low unemployment and labour shortages, that’s a clear sign that we are already at or close to our limit for what we can do for ourselves.
I don’t believe there is any benefit to moving labour and capital away from the areas we have natural advantages to the areas that require subsidies and that might struggle.
If we had mass unemployment, it would make sense though.
You do understand the at tariffs are taxes on the Australian consumers right?Low unemployment and labour shortages are the result of the borders being closed for two years.;
We had 3 companies manufacturing vehicles in this country before the tariffs came down, we have the capability to do it.
But I guess for some, we are still better off being a mine, a farm and a beach.
Prices fall ? The Tesla Model 3 just went up by $5,000.
You do understand the at tariffs are taxes on the Australian consumers right?
Eg, foreign company can produce a car for $50k that would cost $55k to produce in Australia, so the government adds a $10k tax to the foreign one to make the Australian one artificially cheaper, but it’s only cheaper because of extra taxes.
So the end result is that Australian consumers are forced to pay more for cars, because of tax.
A bit old, but it shows that when we did have manufacturers here, the cost of assistance to the car industry were modest compared to other countries.
FactCheck: do other countries subsidise their car industry more than we do?
“By international standards our support [of the automotive industry] is modest, so we have to work hard to attract the new investment.” – Industry minister Senator Kim Carr, Lateline, 22 July. The idea…theconversation.com
I hope that you realise that you don't have to buy an EV or even a Tesla.
There are plenty of alternative vehicles available to purchase, new and second hand, petrol, diesel hybrid, electric and a dwindling number of LPG.
When choosing your car make sure to assess the overall running cost of the life of the vehicle, and if you change your cars often compare the resale value.
Diesel has the advantage of great mileage and towing capacity, but maintenance cost can be slightly higher on some models and extremely higher on others, compared to other energy types. One big disadvantage to diesel is that it is being phased out as a personal transport option in most European countries and has never been a big seller in Japan and the US.
LPG is a fuel that no vehicle manufacturer uses anymore, so if buying second hand take into account that the fuel sales will be dropping and prices going up, also that resale will be gutted.
Petrol is the main fuel now, it will be available for decades to come. Though we are at the mercy of world oil prices and disasters like disease, floods and war. Maintenance cost will be dropping on new models as they compete against EVs minimal service requirements, oil changes and tune ups will be extended with premium parts. Re-sale is a difficult one to guess, as new car production come back on line there may be a glut of cars which could bring the prices down. And then there is the time when manufactures phase out petrol for electric, this could create a price hike for a short time.
Enjoy your choices.
Remember the Holden Starfire engine? Now that was a fantastic example of engineering forced upon us because there was no competition. And the 3 speed automatic that our home grown cars had as standard equipment while all the imports had an overdrive. Those were the days
This is a huge problem, as usual everyone that lives in highly populated areas get terrific infrastructure, because there is enough usage to pay its way, therefore they just want a subsidy to buy the car.Thank you for that precis. As a diesel driver I will stick to that until there is more support for EV's in regional areas.
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