Electric cars?

[Investoradam]

Of course Volvo would say that, they only sell about 4% of the worlds EV vehicles. Volvo are still learning how to manufacture an efficient EV.

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Global EV market share by manufacturer | Statista

In 2023, the two leading EV manufacturers held over 35 percent of the electric vehicle market shares. Geely-Volvo Car Group ranked fourth.

www.statista.com

Volvo are a smart business and generally leading the heard in many ways.
they would have had an R&D department for electric cars for a while

how would Volvos cars components greatly differ from other electric car manufactures? not greatly

 

[Investoradam]

As a consumer and investor, choose your products and investment so as not to own anything that offends you.

Australia has plenty of Cobalt, Tesla is weening itself off of Cobalt.

The six largest cobalt reserves in the world by country

1. Democratic Republic of Congo – 3.6 million tonnes
The DRC is home to more than 50% of the world’s cobalt reserves...

2. Australia – 1.4 million tonnes
Australia holds 1.4 million tonnes of cobalt, around 20% of the global share....

3. Cuba – 500,000 tonnes
Around 7% of the world’s cobalt reserves are based in Cuba.....

4. Philippines – 260,000 tonnes
The Philippines has cobalt reserves totalling 260,000 tonnes, around 4% of the global total....

5. Russia – 250,000 tonnes
While Russia has relatively small cobalt reserves of just 250,000 tonnes.....

6. Canada – 220,000 tonnes
Canada ranks sixth among the world’s largest cobalt reserves, which total 220,000 tonnes – or a 3% share of the global total.

Profiling the six largest cobalt reserves in the world by country

A single country accounts for more than half of the world's cobalt reserves, but new supply chains are being targeted as demand rises.

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just pointing out where most of it comes from!

nice attempt at selecting the atrocities of what is happening there. that has been chosen to ignored by the idiot left and other green energy scammers

 

[rederob]

Volvo are a smart business and generally leading the heard in many ways.
they would have had an R&D department for electric cars for a while

how would Volvos cars components greatly differ from other electric car manufactures? not greatly

Volvo does not use ev-platforms for their NEVs so they are inefficient manufacturers.
Also Tesla's batteries, by way of example, are 92% recyclable.
However, LFP batteries don't have the energy or mineral impact of Tesla's batteries.
Simple bottom line is that regardless of metrics, on life cycle bases BEVs are significantly less CO2 polluting than ICE vehicles.

 

[Investoradam]

Volvo does not use ev-platforms for their NEVs so they are inefficient manufacturers.
Also Tesla's batteries, by way of example, are 92% recyclable.
However, LFP batteries don't have the energy or mineral impact of Tesla's batteries.
Simple bottom line is that regardless of metrics, on life cycle bases BEVs are significantly less CO2 polluting than ICE vehicles.

the 92% is claimed! like everything else claimed about green tech is a scam and load of tripe

New Tesla Battery Recycling Process Reportedly Produces No Waste

Tesla has been working with with third party companies to recycle batteries, but now it says its own process is superior.

insideevs.com

why to you ev loons keep dribbling on about c02 solution

lets just ignore all the extra toxic materials dug from the ground, lithium, nickel, cobalt, coal (yes haha), copper etc, the distraction of land, blast, mining, refining, production of making materials, life span, land fill etc

its like buying a diet coke thinking its healthy as the label says no sugar

 

[Value Collector]

more toxic material dug from the ground. natural vegetation destroyed, poison waste materials pumped back in to the ground, atmosphere or run off in to the river ways!
just like a fat person drinking diet soda and thinking it better for them as it says sugar free

You did up the battery materials once, and then the last the life of the car and can be recycled unlimited times, where as you have to be constantly drilling for oil all the time.

 

[Value Collector]

im not arguing that point. im just arguing the excuse to dig more out of the ground and the useful idiots blame coal and cows farting
I mean they have black African children digging the callout in the Congo out of the ground, yet preach to us about BLM
congo has around 70% of worlds total calbolt

Profiling the six largest cobalt reserves in the world by country

A single country accounts for more than half of the world's cobalt reserves, but new supply chains are being targeted as demand rises.

www.nsenergybusiness.com

google all you want about the African child slaves

Apple and Google named in US lawsuit over Congolese child cobalt mining deaths

Dell, Microsoft and Tesla also among tech firms named in case brought by families of children killed or injured while mining in DRC

www.theguardian.com

yep cows farting are the issue

Tesla batteries don’t use cobolt (anymore)

 

[JohnDe]

Volvo are a smart business and generally leading the heard in many ways.
they would have had an R&D department for electric cars for a while

how would Volvos cars components greatly differ from other electric car manufactures? not greatly

Maybe you missed this -

1. 1999 Ford acquires Volvo car operations. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/02/volv-f04.html
2. Ford sells Volvo to Chinese group. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/mar/28/chinese-group-buys-volvo

 

[Investoradam]

Maybe you missed this -

1. 1999 Ford acquires Volvo car operations. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/02/volv-f04.html
2. Ford sells Volvo to Chinese group. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/mar/28/chinese-group-buys-volvo

most parts would come from china regardless of manufacture brand

 

[Value Collector]

most parts would come from china regardless of manufacture brand

You might be interested in this video, all the supporting studies are listed in the description of the video.

 

[JohnDe]

most parts would come from china regardless of manufacture brand

Volvo starts up its first dedicated battery assembly line

The Swedish carmaker set itself ambitious electric vehicle goals and has started taking the steps to meet them.

www.drive.com.au

Volvo Cars has opened its first dedicated battery assembly line at its manufacturing plant in Ghent, Belgium.
The Swedish carmaker plans to have all-electric models account for 50 per cent of its sales by 2025, with its entire fleet featuring full-electric or hybrid powertrains.”

Tesla achieves annual run rate of 1 million electric cars​

Tesla achieves annual run rate of 1 million electric cars - incredible milestone

Tesla has confirmed that it has achieved an annual run rate of 1 million electric cars per year at the...

electrek.co

 

[Investoradam]

Volvo starts up its first dedicated battery assembly line

The Swedish carmaker set itself ambitious electric vehicle goals and has started taking the steps to meet them.

www.drive.com.au

Volvo Cars has opened its first dedicated battery assembly line at its manufacturing plant in Ghent, Belgium.
The Swedish carmaker plans to have all-electric models account for 50 per cent of its sales by 2025, with its entire fleet featuring full-electric or hybrid powertrains.”

Tesla achieves annual run rate of 1 million electric cars​

Tesla achieves annual run rate of 1 million electric cars - incredible milestone

Tesla has confirmed that it has achieved an annual run rate of 1 million electric cars per year at the...

electrek.co

assembly line. but good to see the cars being put together in Europe not an asian country with much lower wages

most individual parts would be made in china unfortunately

 

[Investoradam]

You might be interested in this video, all the supporting studies are listed in the description of the video.

why do people never mention the destruction to the land & omissions of digging for the product, then the refining and production of the materials, the poison gases & waste pumped in to the atmosphere or river ways

 

[JohnDe]

assembly line. but good to see the cars being put together in Europe not an asian country with much lower wages

most individual parts would be made in china unfortunately

Yes, Volvo will have 50% of their vehicles all EV’s by 2025. As you said, Volvo are pretty smart, they see the writing on the wall. ?

 

[JohnDe]

why do people never mention the destruction to the land & omissions of digging for the product, then the refining and production of the materials, the poison gases & waste pumped in to the atmosphere or river ways

What are you talking about? Everyone is talking about the environment & how we can improve. Hence the increase in sales of EV’s

 

[orr]

I can't speak for all 'EV loons' , But I do like the date of your sign up to the forums Investor?adam. Is it that you've missed the multipuls on EV stock and afiliates since that date, that leads to the sour grapes.
Can you with a straight bat reflect on century and a half of Petro envornmental and geo political history and come out swinging at the move to Electric transport as being some how reprehensible due to anomilies in extremly problematic jurisdictions.

My guess; no doubt you can....

 

[Investoradam]

What are you talking about? Everyone is talking about the environment & how we can improve. Hence the increase in sales of EV’s

the sales of EV is something new and flash on the market! woke and a new trend
its like thinking something that is titled sugar free is good for you!

 

[Investoradam]

Yes, Volvo will have 50% of their vehicles all EV’s by 2025. As you said, Volvo are pretty smart, they see the writing on the wall. ?

they cannot make a combustable engine burn any cleaner and wil not meet omission targets Over the next decade or so hence the endless promotion and predictions of electric cars

electric along with hydrogen cars electric cars have been around for decades.combustable engines were always the choice as they could continue to make the dated technology cleaner and meet the set omission targets
its basic comsumerism

The General Motors CEO who killed the original electric car is now in the electric car business

Under Rick Wagoner, GM destroyed its electric fleet.

qz.com

 

[Value Collector]

why do people never mention the destruction to the land & omissions of digging for the product, then the refining and production of the materials, the poison gases & waste pumped in to the atmosphere or river ways

Do mean when they are drilling for the oil, and refining it?

You could also say why don’t people mention the recycling of materials, because as I mentioned before the battery materials will be almost endlessly recycled, meaning the accounting of the environmental impact will be spread across multiple generations of vehicles, not just the first one.

if you take a look at BHP nickel mine for example, they aren’t despoiling rivers and the air as you claim, and a lot of lithium mines don’t dig at all, they pump it out of the ground water.

of mining materials has some environmental impact, but so does drilling and refining oil, and as pointed out you have to be continuously mining oil rather than just producing the battery once, and perhaps recycling it for a long time.

 

[JohnDe]

the sales of EV is something new and flash on the market! woke and a new trend
its like thinking something that is titled sugar free is good for you!

EV's are anything but new. As an investor I thought that you'd be on top of this. The world is bigger than just Australia ;-)

• Electric vehicles first appeared in the mid-19th century. An electric vehicle held the vehicular land speed record until around 1900

• The Nissan Leaf, introduced in Japan and the United States in December 2010, became the first modern all-electric, zero tailpipe emission five door family hatchback to be produced for the mass market from a major manufacturer.[108][109] As of January 2013, the Leaf is also available in Australia, Canada and 17 European countries.

• The Smart electric drive, Wheego Whip LiFe, Mia electric, Volvo C30 Electric, and the Ford Focus Electric were launched for retail customers during 2011.

• The next Tesla vehicle, the Model S, was released in the U.S. on 22 June 2012[124] and the first delivery of a Model S to a retail customer in Europe took place on 7 August 2013.[125] Deliveries in China began on 22 April 2014.

• Other models released to the market in 2012 and 2013 include the BMW ActiveE, Coda, Renault Fluence Z.E., Honda Fit EV, Toyota RAV4 EV, Renault Zoe, Roewe E50, Mahindra e2o, Chevrolet Spark EV, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Electric Drive, Fiat 500e, Volkswagen e-Up!, BMW i3, and Kandi EV.

• The Renault–Nissan Alliance reached global sales of 100,000 all-electric vehicles in July 2013.

• In May 2015, global sales of highway legal all-electric passenger cars and light utility vehicles passed the 500,000 unit milestone

• As of August 2015, China ranked as the world's second top-selling country plug-in market

• The Tesla Model 3 was unveiled on 31 March 2016. With pricing starting at US$35,000 and an all-electric range of 345 km (215 miles), the Model 3 is Tesla Motors first vehicle aimed for the mass market.

• The Hyundai Ioniq Electric was released in South Korea in July 2016

• In February 2017 Consumer Reports named Tesla as the top car brand in the United States and ranked it 8th among global carmakers

• In September 2018, the Norwegian market share of all-electric cars reached 45.3% and plug-in hybrids 14.9%,

• Tesla delivered its 100,000th Model 3 in October 2018.[201] U.S. sales of the Model 3 reached the 100,000 unit milestone in November 2018, quicker than any previous model sold in the country.[202] The Model 3 was the top-selling plug-in electric car in the U.S. for 12 consecutive months since January 2018

• The Nissan Leaf was Norway's best selling new passenger car model in 2018

• The global stock of plug-in electric passenger cars reached 5.1 million units in December 2018

History of the electric vehicle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JohnDe]

its basic comsumerism

The General Motors CEO who killed the original electric car is now in the electric car business

Under Rick Wagoner, GM destroyed its electric fleet.

qz.com

True, and the consumer is fast turning to EV's, hence the mad rush by all the conventional auto makers to develop and introduce EV's into their range.

As for GM; you do know that they went bankrupt in 2009 and had to have a massive government bailout to keep the doors open?

"On June 1, 2009 General Motors filed for bankruptcy in New York, with $82 billion in assets and $173 billion in liabilities. It was the largest industrial bankruptcy in history."