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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.8%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.6%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.8%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.7%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    197
Getting back on Topic, was just reading an article about how the EV versions of marque cars proving to be outperforming supercars.
The car in question wad the Audi E-Tron sportback which at 1-100kmh in 3.3 seconds is the fastest 4 door Audi ever built.
Noice.
Unfortunately, at a price tag of $186,000 its a bit out of my price range.
Mick
Here is a video of a Tesla beating a V8 super car.

it drags a road legal v8 first, then the Super cheap Auto V8 super car.

This isn’t even the fastest Tesla, the New “Model S Plaid” is even quicker than the one shown here.

 
Just been reading about the Rimac Nevera.
This EV from Croatia of all places, boasts a price tag of 2.4 million USD.
But for this princely sum you get a four motor AWD that has 1,914 Hp at its disposal, plus 1731 ft lb of Torque.
Just for comparison, my 67 volkswagen has 34 HP and 75 ftlb of torque and a top speed of 122kmh.
But it did only cost me 1800 bucks.
The Nevera hits 0-100 mph in 4.3 seconds, 0-186Mph(300KMH) in 9.3 seconds and has a top speed of 258MPH (over 400 KMH).
Goes a bit alright.
Mick
 
Maybe get a back yard distillery, you should be able to brew enough moonshine for your Sunday drive.

Super cheap auto might even sell 10 litre tins of fuel to keep the collectors going.

(there will still be petrol stations long after 2030, but by 2040 they may be disappearing, just like LPG is disappearing now, after 2040 is when you might have to start buying it by the tin)

I might plant some corn to make me some ethanol.

Yes, petrol stations will need to continue for some time until the commercial vehicle fleet transitions, but how much will a litre of fuel cost? Might be an expensive Sunday drive.
 
I might plant some corn to make me some ethanol.

Yes, petrol stations will need to continue for some time until the commercial vehicle fleet transitions, but how much will a litre of fuel cost? Might be an expensive Sunday drive.
It will be interesting, it might become like fire wood is now, eg most petrol stations seem to have a little stack of over priced fire wood for the people that have a fire pit as a weed end novelty.

Maybe in the future the bowsers will be replaced with charging stations, and petrol is in Tins beside the fire wood, next to the ICE freezer and bait fridge.
 
It's also a safety measure to warn pedestrians to get out of the way.
Lack of noise and pedestrian safety has been my one real concern about EV’s.

I have no statistics to back it up but it seems a fair assumption that the noise of combustion engines probably has saved the lives of many pedestrians over the years when neither the driver nor the pedestrian had spotted each other.
 
Back in the 70's lotsa people went over to the UK and ordered a RHD BMW and kept it for a year in the UK.
They could then ship it back to OZ and not pay import duty and customs.
Made the cost of owning a beemer significantly less than buying one here.
The Beemer service people would not touch them cos they did not have ADR compliance plates, but that did not stop plenty from importing them.
Mick
 
Back in the 70's lotsa people went over to the UK and ordered a RHD BMW and kept it for a year in the UK.
They could then ship it back to OZ and not pay import duty and customs.
Made the cost of owning a beemer significantly less than buying one here.
The Beemer service people would not touch them cos they did not have ADR compliance plates, but that did not stop plenty from importing them.
Mick
I used to chat to an old fella who in his younger days imported luxury cars into PNG and then sold them into Australian market, avoiding the taxes through some loop hole.
 
I want an electric Ute. When is this bloody rivian turning up in Australia?
I swear I was banging on about this 3 years ago.
I was also keen on Rivian.
Was even prepared to stump up the 1000 pre order slot position.
But Rivian have said they have no plans to make RHD versions, so we are out of luck there.
Thought about buying one in the states, shipping it out here and then converting to RHD.
But would have to be a one off.
Mick
 
The article refers to Nickel as a "precious Metal".
Can't say I have ever heard that one before!
Maybe explains why IGO is having another attempt at breaking through the 10 buck barrier.
Third rime lucky maybe??
mick
 
Good Work!
CTM has had a big jump from November last year.
I would have taken my profits by now had I held it.
Probably too late for me now.
Mick
 
For anyone interested, there is a talk on ev conversion of classic cars on the sunny coast early november .pm me and i will forward you details
 
The simplicity of electric cars.

The Future

Get ready for car collaborations to go up a couple of gears as the electric revolution takes over. Car companies are already looking at amalgamating their many different models onto as few platforms as possible. Stellantis Group - owner of Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroen, Fiat, Jeep, Peugeot and nine other brands - is developing four basic platforms to provide for its 15 brands’ futures (small, medium, large and body-on-frame).
Ever ambitious Volkswagen is going even further, developing one single platform for its nine car brands to share across their many models.

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Volkswagen's one size fits all MEB platform
Exactly how successful this is, only time will tell. But when the might of the automotive world is investing thousands of billions of dollars collectively in making it happen, you’d be brave to bet against it.
The key here is the innate simplicity and flexibility of the electric powertrain, the most revolutionary concept to hit the automotive business since Henry Ford’s production line. Imagine a skateboard where batteries sit on the deck and there are motors at one or both ends. You can make the deck as long and wide or short and narrow as you need, drape whatever body you want over the top and use any kind of suspension to connect the wheels to the frame.
What this means for consumers is that car bodies and interiors are the future’s battleground. The majority of car buyers don’t care what engine their car has as long as it works. For them, it’s all about the interior. How spacious is it? How flexible? How luxurious? How well is it digitally integrated with the rest of my life?

 
Good Work!
CTM has had a big jump from November last year.
I would have taken my profits by now had I held it.
Probably too late for me now.
Mick

I came in late. Recent analysts targets between 1.40 and 1.50 - in the CTM thread. So, there's potentially still some coin to be made at current levels of Ni price. If it keeps going, so will CTM, imo. I'm buying dips.
 
Article in the Weekend OZ about the Hyundai Kona EV.
Recently, however, I decided to shun excitement, variety and vivacity in my life and moved to the suburbs, where those absurd figures make sense. Counting the cars parked not only in the treble garages and generous driveways but along the street outside my neighbours’ houses provides a good insight into how many people live inside, because it’s usually slightly fewer than the number of vehicles.

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I understand that this is because everything is now too far away to walk to, but what I didn’t realise was that it would lead to my wife deciding we needed to buy a car.

Sadly, unlike me, she doesn’t like forming new relationships on a regular basis. But her need for motoring monogamy led to one of those rare, blissful moments in a marriage where I actually got something right by borrowing a Hyundai Kona Electric for six months (I believe the technical term is “kicking the can down the road”, because she’ll still want to buy a car when this one is returned).

Sounds very happy with the vehicle, and is hoping his wife who wants a new car, will agree to something like the new Kona EV
The write says he has a six months loan of one of these, but it is mainly as a second car.
he says that its great for families doing short trips .
He obviously has no young kids, or has not discussed it with his wife, because with the requirement that kids up to the age of seven must be in approved child restraint seats.
Any mother will soon tell him that trying to fit two car seats in the back of a Kona as well as the pram and all the other 8 billion things that go with young kids these days, then fit the shopping in is going to be a tad more difficult than the male thinks.
And don't even contemplate if you have more than two children.
My eldest jumped out of a three year old Volkswagen Tiguan into a 15 year old range rover purely because of the space requirements for his young family.
I thought he was nuts, but his wife assures me that it is just as easy to drive and she has no trouble with the car seats and pram , toys, the dog, etc.
They are thinking about fronting up for a third child, so will probably have to look at a double decker bus then.
Mick
 
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