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Absolutely. When you think about it setting up an EV recharging outlet is so much simpler and cheaper than a petrol station. Yes you have to have a power supply but after you install the charging units there are minimal costs.
People will charge at home but I'm not at all convinced about the 99% figure.99% of people with EV’s will be charging at home
If I was going to invest in a service station with a view to installing EV chargers there at a future time in place of at least some of the petrol pumps then first thing I'd be doing is investigating the local electricity network in detail.The big deal ,IMO, will be ensuring adequate power supply from external sources or perhaps the addition of an onsite big battery to even out demand and supply .
If you look at google maps smurf, Pinjarra and Mandurah, there has been three brand new large apron servo's built in the last two years, there has also been a few servo's closed in the town of Pinjarra.If I was going to invest in a service station with a view to installing EV chargers there at a future time in place of at least some of the petrol pumps then first thing I'd be doing is investigating the local electricity network in detail.
What you want is a HV (High Voltage) distribution feeder running past so 11 or 22kV in most states. That'll facilitate future installation of a transformer to supply however many EV chargers you want without too much difficulty so long as the upstream supply is adequate.
Versus having access only to the LV network at 400V / 230V which will be seriously limiting.
There is nothing engineering wise stopping body corps installing chargers, or at least power points.People will charge at home but I'm not at all convinced about the 99% figure.
Apartments are generally unsuited unless the body corporate puts in chargers.
Rental properties in general there's no incentive for the owner to do anything and many won't have power outside.
For them they can use public charging stations, or chargers at their work place.Homes without off street parking are another and that's extremely common in the inner suburbs.
If I was going to invest in a service station with a view to installing EV chargers there at a future time in place of at least some of the petrol pumps then first thing I'd be doing is investigating the local electricity network in detail.
What you want is a HV (High Voltage) distribution feeder running past so 11 or 22kV in most states. That'll facilitate future installation of a transformer to supply however many EV chargers you want without too much difficulty so long as the upstream supply is adequate.
Versus having access only to the LV network at 400V / 230V which will be seriously limiting.
anyone's wondering.
There isn't from an engineering perspective but a look at any real estate, tenancy etc forum will find no shortage of problems where air-conditioning or even things like clothes lines can't be installed not for any engineering reason but because the body corporate says so.There is nothing engineering wise stopping body corps installing chargers, or at least power points.
Horror stories are all well no good, but they are generally the exception, and as EV’s gain in popularity, if your rental house or apartment doesn’t have options for charging you will probably be shooting yourself in the foot as a land lord.There isn't from an engineering perspective but a look at any real estate, tenancy etc forum will find no shortage of problems where air-conditioning or even things like clothes lines can't be installed not for any engineering reason but because the body corporate says so.
The idea of installing something on common property will cause some of these people to flip their lids, of that I'm pretty confident.
That's a human problem, not a technical one, but I've been made aware of enough horror stories in regard to other issues to be thinking that there's a very real chance it's going to be significant.
Much the same with rentals. It's hard enough getting some landlords to fix broken taps or ovens as it is without trying to get them to put a power point in the garage.
There are situations where it'll work obviously and there are good landlords and so on but there's quite a few shockers out there who aren't going to make this even slightly easy.
And why would a body corporate install power plug in common area for a few ev use ,and who is to pay the actual power bill.difficult technically to have a cheap solution.i would oppose and should anyone sane sharing the cost of recharge between a building's owners..so you need to install a paying recharge station..with added complexity.very rarely do you have a building wide internet or wifi nowadaysThere isn't from an engineering perspective but a look at any real estate, tenancy etc forum will find no shortage of problems where air-conditioning or even things like clothes lines can't be installed not for any engineering reason but because the body corporate says so.
The idea of installing something on common property will cause some of these people to flip their lids, of that I'm pretty confident.
That's a human problem, not a technical one, but I've been made aware of enough horror stories in regard to other issues to be thinking that there's a very real chance it's going to be significant.
Much the same with rentals. It's hard enough getting some landlords to fix broken taps or ovens as it is without trying to get them to put a power point in the garage.
There are situations where it'll work obviously and there are good landlords and so on but there's quite a few shockers out there who aren't going to make this even slightly easy.
Both laughing, crying and saying i told you so...UK will program electric car chargers to TURN OFF for 9 hours a day amid fears demand will cause blackouts
UK will program electric car chargers to TURN OFF for 9 hours a day amid fears demand will cause blackouts
Charging points for electric cars will be preset to turn off for nine hours a day amid fears they could cause blackouts with the government pushing the switch from diesel and petrol. From May, every new charger will automatically not function at...www.sott.net
and EVs aren't even widespread in the UK , yet
It’s not that they have a problem now, they are just future proofing the network, it’s a smart thing obviously, we do the same thing will our hot water systems.UK will program electric car chargers to TURN OFF for 9 hours a day amid fears demand will cause blackouts
UK will program electric car chargers to TURN OFF for 9 hours a day amid fears demand will cause blackouts
Charging points for electric cars will be preset to turn off for nine hours a day amid fears they could cause blackouts with the government pushing the switch from diesel and petrol. From May, every new charger will automatically not function at...www.sott.net
and EVs aren't even widespread in the UK , yet
They can manage the load with EV’s a lot more than they can with people’s heaters, kitchens and TVs etc and spread demand so it’s always below the penalty rate peak levels, Higher utilisation rates can also actually make things cheaper provided it doesn’t hit super high levels.I like the statement that people will be pushed to charge during off peak times e.g 10pm to 6am,because it is cheaper, when everyone is charging during off peak I don't think it will be cheap anymore.
The reason off peak is cheap is because no one is using it, when everyone is using it, why would it remain cheap?
It wont have any bearing on EV take up, but it is a misnomer IMO.
Most people will be turning heaters, lights and tvs off when they head to bed, that’s when the cars can begin charging, managed correctly you can have a nice steady demand load through the night that the electricity companies will love, especially because they could adjust the demand you match windy periods etc.well to the UK , where civilization is slipping back to the Stone Age (because bronze will create too many greenhouse gases )
i am guessing you will not be allowed to charge up in Winter because everyone will need the heating to resist freezing to death
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