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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.8%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.6%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.8%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.7%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    197
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over9k said:
They'll never replace ICE cars for motorsport. Never. Electric cars are about as exciting as watching paint dry.
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Someone probably said the same about ICE cars.

Racing them will never catch on, horses are far more exciting.

A point often lost on the older generations is that to today's young people all cars and indeed the entire concept of them is dead boring to most. They're an appliance that needs to be reliable, economical and safe much like a fridge.

So far as the mainstream is concerned, car culture is as dead as rock music. Something everyone knows exists but which is very much associated with those now in the older half of the population. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
Someone probably said the same about ICE cars.

Racing them will never catch on, horses are far more exciting.

A point often lost on the older generations is that to today's young people all cars and indeed the entire concept of them is dead boring to most. They're an appliance that needs to be reliable, economical and safe much like a fridge.

So far as the mainstream is concerned, car culture is as dead as rock music. Something everyone knows exists but which is very much associated with those now in the older half of the population. :2twocents
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Formula E exists. Nobody watches it. Formula 1 has sucked ever since the V6's were introduced (and the V8 era wasn't great). Young men still like cars and always will.

Even now, people complain about V6 Formula 1 cars sounding like vacuum cleaners and I don't know a single F1 fan that doesn't want to go back to the V10 era and stay there. Older cars that were still driving cars like the R34 GT-R are going for more than the newer models now. Same with the wrx etc. Modern cars just suck.

There's a saying with cars - it's not how fast it goes, it's how it goes fast.

Here's a quick 1.6 million view 30 second clip of Lewis Hamilton to give you an idea of just how much even the drivers hate the modern F1 cars, and they're only becoming more of a snooze fest by the day:



And there's myriad other videos just like this one:



There was more talk about the V10 on a glory lap that weekend than there was the race.


Electric car racing will never be popular. Ever. Electric cars aren't exciting and they never will be.
 
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Smurf1976 said:
A point often lost on the older generations is that to today's young people all cars and indeed the entire concept of them is dead boring to most. They're an appliance that needs to be reliable, economical and safe much like a fridge.

So far as the mainstream is concerned, car culture is as dead as rock music. Something everyone knows exists but which is very much associated with those now in the older half of the population. :2twocents
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Never a truer word said smurf.:xyxthumbs
As I've said before, 30 years ago i would go to the auctions, pick up a cheap Gemini, Lancer, Corolla etc, take it home pull out the motor hone the bore, new set of rings and big ends, new clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing.
Give it a rub down with a red scourer and respray it, then re sell it and make $1,000, nowadays there are better cars abandoned on the side of the freeway with the number plates removed.
Or stacked three deep on the back of a truck with a hiab squeezing them, to keep them on the back.
Young people today worry more about their phone running out of charge, than they worry about their cars.:roflmao:
The car culture is as smurf said, dying with the older half of the population.
There is a reason that a lot of really collectible cars are coming on the market, I think. ;)
 
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Smurf1976 said:
Someone probably said the same about ICE cars.

Racing them will never catch on, horses are far more exciting.

A point often lost on the older generations is that to today's young people all cars and indeed the entire concept of them is dead boring to most. They're an appliance that needs to be reliable, economical and safe much like a fridge.

So far as the mainstream is concerned, car culture is as dead as rock music. Something everyone knows exists but which is very much associated with those now in the older half of the population. :2twocents
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Look at how swiftly the decline of NAS Car racing is happening.
 
Smurf1976 said:
Someone probably said the same about ICE cars.

Racing them will never catch on, horses are far more exciting.

A point often lost on the older generations is that to today's young people all cars and indeed the entire concept of them is dead boring to most. They're an appliance that needs to be reliable, economical and safe much like a fridge.

So far as the mainstream is concerned, car culture is as dead as rock music. Something everyone knows exists but which is very much associated with those now in the older half of the population. :2twocents
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Very true.

I used to suck up motor racing as a youth but I hardly watch it any more except for Bathurst.

When you could drive cars off the street and race them it had some relevance but now the technology is beyond the reach of the general public so it's irrelevant to most.

I would acknowledge the "racing improves the breed" argument and as long as racing technology filters down to the consumer eventually then it serves a purpose, but mainly its a sport to enable the super rich to show off and think that they have achieved something (like yacht racing).
 
SirRumpole said:
Very true.

I used to suck up motor racing as a youth but I hardly watch it any more except for Bathurst.

When you could drive cars off the street and race them it had some relevance but now the technology is beyond the reach of the general public so it's irrelevant to most.

I would acknowledge the "racing improves the breed" argument and as long as racing technology filters down to the consumer eventually then it serves a purpose, but mainly its a sport to enable the super rich to show off and think that they have achieved something (lik
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OMG those were the days, as a kid in W.A you would get up at 5am to watch the start in the dark at Bathurst, it was an Aussie icon.
I remember when Peter Williamson, had the first in car T.V camera in his Toyota Celica and was flat out down conrod straight, he said here we go Peter Brock about to flash by me, I'll move to the left.
Those were the days when the media was more about entertainment, than social engineering, it is sad they have become politically focused rather than entertainment focused.
 
sptrawler said:
OMG those were the days, as a kid in W.A you would get up at 5am to watch the start in the dark at Bathurst, it was an Aussie icon.
I remember when Peter Williamson, had the first in car T.V camera in his Toyota Celica and was flat out down conrod straight, he said here we go Peter Brock about to flash by me, I'll move to the left.
Those were the days when the media was more about entertainment, than social engineering, it is sad they have become politically focused rather than entertainment focused.
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Everything is politically focused these days, which is why F1 and other classes will go electric eventually, the sport can't survive being tarred with the "environmental vandals" brush.
 
SirRumpole said:
Everything is politically focused these days, which is why F1 and other classes will go electric eventually, the sport can't survive being tarred with the "environmental vandals" brush.
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Being a bike nut, I only follow motogp, but as you say everything is driven, the media is driven by advertising dollars.
The news media is driven by the audience who pay for their content.
The muppets are driven by the media that feeds their paranoia.
Sad really.
 
sptrawler said:
The car culture is as smurf said, dying with the older half of the population.
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www.whichcar.com.au

Why motorsport fans are abandoning the sport in droves

There’s no quick fix for the problem of fans deserting motorsport
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It seems too, that today’s motor sports spectators are often oldies and that many younger people are not in any hurry to secure their driving licences. It follows then that they are not drawn to motorsport
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Motorsport is just another one of those things that was a seriously big deal in the past but which the current younger generation just isn't all that keen on. :2twocents
 
qldfrog said:
Cars EV or ICE have no place in tomorrow's engineered world.
Cars used to be freedom, they are just a source of gov revenues
Think rabbit hutches or poultry battery farm: more and more people in smaller and smaller places with lower and lower inputs. And outputs.
.https://www.newstatesman.com/cultur...s-our-society-already-pixar-s-dystopia-wall-e
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Well let's face it, we aren't that great as drivers.

Only a matter of time till it's all automated with people not allowed to drive.
 
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