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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.8%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.6%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.8%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.7%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    197
BEV's are about to become afforable.
From the article:
New details of the upcoming BYD electric hatchback – which importer Nexport claims will be sold in Australia for “well under $35,000” when order books open later this year – have been revealed exclusively to CarAdvice.
The Chinese-built five-door – which was unveiled as the EA1 in China last week, but will be sold locally under a different nameplate – has a range of approximately 500km, according to Nexport founder Luke Todd.

Meanwhile, the 0-100km/h sprint will reportedly take “less than 5.0 seconds” in entry-level guise – comparable acceleration to the launch control-equipped Volkswagen Golf R hot hatch.

“Our range of six cars will completely change the automotive landscape in Australia, and we expect to be a top-five manufacturer within 24 months,” Mr Todd told CarAdvice.

“There has been a lot of discussion about the government’s role in electric vehicle take-up, but our view is that electric cars need to be able to compete with internal combustion cars on price – we believe we are the manufacturer to make that happen,” Mr Todd added.

Assuming the aforementioned performance figures are accurate – and the car is sold for under $35,000 with a reasonable warranty – the BYD hatchback could well be a complete game changer for the local market.
 
This is how it should've been done in the first place.

Good ole swap and go > https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ney-and-brisbane-using-exchangeable-batteries
The Chinese are leaning toward the swap and go model.

 
BEV's are about to become afforable.
From the article:
New details of the upcoming BYD electric hatchback – which importer Nexport claims will be sold in Australia for “well under $35,000” when order books open later this year – have been revealed exclusively to CarAdvice.
The Chinese-built five-door – which was unveiled as the EA1 in China last week, but will be sold locally under a different nameplate – has a range of approximately 500km, according to Nexport founder Luke Todd.

Meanwhile, the 0-100km/h sprint will reportedly take “less than 5.0 seconds” in entry-level guise – comparable acceleration to the launch control-equipped Volkswagen Golf R hot hatch.

“Our range of six cars will completely change the automotive landscape in Australia, and we expect to be a top-five manufacturer within 24 months,” Mr Todd told CarAdvice.

“There has been a lot of discussion about the government’s role in electric vehicle take-up, but our view is that electric cars need to be able to compete with internal combustion cars on price – we believe we are the manufacturer to make that happen,” Mr Todd added.

Assuming the aforementioned performance figures are accurate – and the car is sold for under $35,000 with a reasonable warranty – the BYD hatchback could well be a complete game changer for the local market.
That's a brand I would trust as I have experienced zillions..well maybe less of these zapping past day and night, cold or hot , dry or wet when in China .And if they get it at $35k, a winner.let's see the details, by then we might be blocking import from China as their army will then prevent chip shipping from Taipei ;-)
 
This is how it should've been done in the first place.

Good ole swap and go > https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ney-and-brisbane-using-exchangeable-batteries

If the figures and engineering are right this is an exceptionally clever proposal by Janus Electric. Essentially they have developed a universal battery pack that can be grafted onto 90% of trucks. The proposal is that after 5 years and probably 600-800k the trucks need to have the motor overhauled .

Fine. So instead of a traditional overhaul replace the motor with an electric drive and then rent the battery pack. On their figures the payback for the conversion is 12 months. And the trucks are far more comfortable to drive and maintenance falls away dramatically.

Essentially one gets an electric truck for 85K using the body of the vehicles the truckers already have.

In theory one could electrify a car but the economics aren't compelling. But a truck that spends its life relentlessly travelling between Sydney and Brisbane ? Its a piece of cake and an economic dream. Won't necessarily work for every application but far better value for the next 15 years.


 
We sell the bauxite to other countries for next to nothing. We then buy back the aluminium at an exorbitant price that we could of made cheaper then any other country and reduce pollution.
When will be build enough power plants that will alllow us to plug all the EV's into?

Now hydrogen looks a better bet for us.
 
We sell the bauxite to other countries for next to nothing. We then buy back the aluminium at an exorbitant price that we could of made cheaper then any other country and reduce pollution.
When will be build enough power plants that will alllow us to plug all the EV's into?

Now hydrogen looks a better bet for us.
The only issue with hydrogen, we will need twice as much power, as BEV's.
But I think we will end up on H2.
 
BP and Shell moving into the electric car charging space.
From the article:
Digital Charging Solutions GmbH – a public charging infrastructure company owned by BMW Group and Daimler Mobility – has agreed to partner with oil industry giant BP to grow its network of charging stations.
The agreement will see BP hold a 33.3 per cent stake in Digital Charging Solutions alongside the two German prestige marques.
Digital Charging Solutions currently operates public charging services for Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Mini via a network of 228,000 charging stations in 32 countries.
The agreement will see BP's 8700 charging stations added, alongside the planned introduction of 70,000 more charging stations worldwide by 2030.
In a similar move, oil and gas giant Shell recently purchased British public electric vehicle charging network Ubitricity, which currently manages approximately 2700 charging points throughout the UK.
 
NIO can now be traded with a 3x bull etf on the LSE, ticker "3LNI". It's even listed in USD.

NIO chart lately looks lovely too:

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Excellent ongoing summary of EV sales

Electric Vehicle Sales Charts, Graphs, & Stats​


 
Interesting economy run by a Hyundai hydrogen electric car from Melbourne to Broken Hill.
From the article:
During the record attempt, the Nexo was driven by professional rally driver Brendan Reeves, starting from Essendon Fields on the outskirts of Melbourne.

After 807km of “efficiency-focused driving”, the Nexo arrived in Broken Hill with plenty of range still showing on the vehicle’s trip computer.
Organisers then decided to continue the journey to Silverton – best known as the setting for 1980s action film Mad Max 2.
The Hyundai Nexo continued past Silverton for another 60km until its hydrogen tank was depleted on the Wilangee road near Eldee Station.
Hyundai says the total distance driven was 887.5km, according to the Nexo’s trip computer. This surpassed the previous 778km record in France – also in a Hyundai Nexo – set in 2019 in a run from Sarreguemines to Le Bourget.
Interestingly, the distance measured by a separate GPS unit on the Hyundai Nexo showed a distance travelled of 903.4km, and Google Maps showed a distance of 905km.
Hyundai claims the Nexo purified 449,100 litres of air on the journey – enough for 33 adults to breathe in a day – and its plastic exhaust pipe emitted only water vapour.
Whereas a standard petrol car would have emitted an estimated 126kg of CO2 over the same distance
 
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