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but is not incentivising it or assisting by rolling out a recharging network; those are left to the private sector".

To put it in context.
Someone is not incentivising or assisting by rolling out a recharging network, but instead are leaving it to the private sector.

Who could that possibly be that isn't rolling out the network? I wonder.
 
sptrawler said:
but is not incentivising it or assisting by rolling out a recharging network; those are left to the private sector".

To put it in context.
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I honestly have no idea what you are on about.
What you suggested and what I actually stated in plain English are opposite senses.
What you say I suggested is patently absurd. I said the private sector is rolling out a recharging network, so clearly the government is not, and clearly our taxes are not involved.
 
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Which is great and IMO the way it should be, glad you agree.:xyxthumbs
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It's not what I "agreed," it's exactly what I wrote, and had to repeat several times, despite you incorrectly claiming I proposed using taxes, and unnecessarily introduced politics.
 
We are saying the same thing, so lets move on, or you will just bore everyone to death as usual.
You said it is being done by the private sector, I said so it should, otherwise the taxpayer pays for it.
Therefore we agree.
Just so late comers understand the ramblings, this is the quote being discussed.

"Australia has no problems accommodating EV ownership, but is not incentivising it or assisting by rolling out a recharging network; those are left to the private sector".
I said that to incentivise it or rolling out a recharge network would require taxpayers money, if it isn't left to the private sector.

I know it's boring, but that the way it rolls around here.:D
 
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sptrawler said:
We are saying the same thing, so lets move on, or you will just bore everyone to death as usual.
You said it is being done by the private sector, I said so it should, otherwise the taxpayer pays for it.
Therefore we agree.
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We are not. I merely stated a fact which you did not understand.

My view is that we need policies supportive of EVs. That can be facilitated by the federal government. However, as I said, the present federal government is a policy vacuum on this matter: here's their transport infrastructure policies. And if you can find a cogent energy policy in their "plan" for Australia - here - good luck.

Governments have a long history of rolling out infrastructure in anticipation of demand, especially where a need is obvious. It also has the capacity to recoup that expenditure over time (eg. the botched NBN deal), or through clear productivity gains.
A curious logic to government policy is that it will happily pay out around $8B (see page 10) in fossil fuel rebates annually but won't support one of the strongest growth sectors in the world - renewable energy and related initiatives.
 
Can't believe this has still been going on all afternoon.

I am happy to work; I can take the position of multiple idiots, that are employed by the Federal government in Canberra!
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
As we are all social beings and live in a society with it's norms, e.g filling up one's car at a servo anywhere and driving on or away, there will need to be a change in people's behaviour to accomplish the wider uptake of EV.

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Would you actually ever choose to go to a petrol station if you could top up your car in your own garage Each night for 75% less cost? Because this is what it’s like having an EV, it’s like starting each day with a full tank of petrol, so get to skip the servos.

The life style issues people think are road blocks to Evs are actually mostly in people’s head, once you get an EV you will realise that almost everything people point to as being weaknesses are actually strengths.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I believe any ole muppet can post on this thread, as long as one is aware that Muay Thai is not a dish served with coconut rice and green curry.
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yeah, and how come there isn't any ASX stock with a ticker code of OCD? Be plenty of posters wanting to chat about that.
 
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Value Collector said:
Would you actually ever choose to go to a petrol station if you could top up your car in your own garage Each night for 75% less cost? Because this is what it’s like having an EV, it’s like starting each day with a full tank of petrol, so get to skip the servos.

The life style issues people think are road blocks to Evs are actually mostly in people’s head, once you get an EV you will realise that almost everything people point to as being weaknesses are actually strengths.
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I guess everyone got used to not going to the local provender for oats for the horses, in the day. Or the smithy. Point taken.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I guess everyone got used to not going to the local provender for oats for the horses, in the day. Or the smithy. Point taken.

gg
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yep, and think about how quickly we dumped video shops once we realised we could stream movies over phone lines we all were connected to at home anyway.

I remember back in the 90’s going and picking up over night movies for $7, 20 years of inflation later I can stream a new release movie from my home less than that, and have access to unlimited amounts of movies on Netflix for $3 a week.

sure some people feel nostalgic towards Friday night video shop trips, but no one can honestly say they were better or cheaper.

petrol stations will be seen the same way.
 
Value Collector said:
petrol stations will be seen the same way.
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Of all physical retail premises, petrol stations are about the least attractive to consumers.

Pretty much nobody spends any more time at a petrol station than they need to. Drive in, get straight out of the car, fill the tank, pay for it, leave.

They're a necessary thing in the ICE era but not a place that anyone actually likes as such. :2twocents
 
Value Collector said:
Would you actually ever choose to go to a petrol station if you could top up your car in your own garage Each night for 75% less cost? Because this is what it’s like having an EV, it’s like starting each day with a full tank of petrol, so get to skip the servos.

The life style issues people think are road blocks to Evs are actually mostly in people’s head, once you get an EV you will realise that almost everything people point to as being weaknesses are actually strengths.
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Value Collector said:
yep, and think about how quickly we dumped video shops once we realised we could stream movies over phone lines we all were connected to at home anyway.

I remember back in the 90’s going and picking up over night movies for $7, 20 years of inflation later I can stream a new release movie from my home less than that, and have access to unlimited amounts of movies on Netflix for $3 a week.

sure some people feel nostalgic towards Friday night video shop trips, but no one can honestly say they were better or cheaper.

petrol stations will be seen the same way.
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Smurf1976 said:
Of all physical retail premises, petrol stations are about the least attractive to consumers.

Pretty much nobody spends any more time at a petrol station than they need to. Drive in, get straight out of the car, fill the tank, pay for it, leave.

They're a necessary thing in the ICE era but not a place that anyone actually likes as such. :2twocents
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The point I was trying to make re petrol stations had little to do with aesthetics but more to do with convenience and utility.

One drives a car.
One gets low on charge/fuel whether it be E or IC.
In the case of an ICE vehicle one calls in to a service station and quickly fills up. And continues on one's way, e.g to Port Douglas for an all in high stakes texas holdem game with some gulls up there.
In the case of an EV one goes home, plugs it in overnight, puts on one's slippers and says "****, I'm home again when I should be in Port Douglas at an all in high stakes texas holdem game".

gg
 
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