Julia
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And how does this square with the oft quoted mantra of how aborigines are so in touch with the land, would never do anything to despoil it etc etc??
And how does this square with the oft quoted mantra of how aborigines are so in touch with the land, would never do anything to despoil it etc etc??And btw, I personally have no probs with abs taking nuclear waste and getting paid for it - I hope they get paid handsomely that's all - because the rest of us NIMBY's would never let nuclear power get off the ground otherwise - plenty of hot air - too much radio, and not enough activity etc
We now have more single mothers than ever before.
People are having to be paid to be parents, rather than traditionally, because of long term financial security. This will have dire consequences in another 20 years time, when kids have grown up in a loveless family, and realise they were only brought into this world for money..
More banks own people's property than ever before..
The gap between rich and poor has grown excessively..
The removal of incentive for education..
The victimisation, alienation and removal of hope for the youth of Australia..
Nope. There are now more single teenage mothers than ever before in Australia. At least in the first few years after the baby bonus was intoduced, this was the case.How I dislike the 'than ever before' cry.. It's gained my attention when I was in the US just after 911.. every second television ad spruiked 'now, more than ever before..' as if to ensure that you 'lived for the moment' because you just never know if you'll be here tomorrow to enjoy that Krispy Kreme doughnut or be able to drive down the 101 in the new convertible 'vette.. Play the fear card at every opportunity, certainly works in the marketing and politics arena.. However, perhaps I am the ultimate cynic..
Also, more single mothers now 'than ever before'??? That may just have something to do with the fact that women can walk away for no reason and claim a [in many cases] substantial income for doing nothing other than dragging the kids with them.. I could elaborate, however time and space do not permit..
I'm not in the age bracket which benefits from this payment. Neither are the people I am in general speaking for. I wouldn't count people over 30 as youth.Sad but true.. Although, I seem to remember a comment from someone earlier (may have been you) about how tough it is for the younger generation these days. I'm sure I'd be better off if a 4-5K bonus per head was payable when I was breeding .... let's not even get into the 1st home buyers etc..
It was a one line cynical response to a one line argument. Don't quote me out of context.Hmmm... put in context, ie per capita of generations I'd tip that not a lot has changed in the last 1000 years..
Who would you like me to reference, Stiglitz on a broader scale or ACOSS for more relevance?Again..
You mean you can study for 6 years and still be paid less than a truckie?Wow.. more information required. You mean that these days taxpayers will largely fund or loan you money to pay for University (at very good rates) so that when you graduate as a doctor you can slug me exorbitant rates for the privilege of training you?? Lucky me..
Couldn't?Awesome dude.. never let the truth stand in the way of a good post.. Just a guess, but I'd tip you are one of the 'Me' generation.. LOL
Deep down inside, you know you needed to clarify that statement, but you couldn't so you didn't.. Genuinely, I enjoy reading your posts and those of all here at ASF with the diverse opinions and experiences, but you gotta be able to back up statements like your last, 'cause you just know you're going to get called in.. the question is can you?
Obviously there are a heap of things to check out - radioactivity mustn't get out in any way, including leaching into underground water table - but apparently the geology at the station involved is pretty ideal - they've been assured by us that there's "nothing to worry about".And how does this square with the oft quoted mantra of how aborigines are so in touch with the land, would never do anything to despoil it etc etc??
It's a while since we've heard anything about the proposed nuclear waste facility. Naturally the question arises: what's happening behind the scenes?
How many possible sites is the Federal Government actually looking at? At first there were three. Two of them not far from Alice Springs and suddenly there was a fourth possibility, on Muckaty Station, north of Tennant Creek.
The Northern Land Council (NLC) has been negotiating with the Federal Government and with the traditional owners, the Warlmanpa people, but have they been consulting with all the key stakeholders?
Marlene Bennett is one Warlmanpa woman who thinks there hasn't been enough consultation. She says she and many others have been left out of the loop when it comes to discussions about the proposed facility. "The people themselves out on the community, they reckon it's been too rushed. The way the meetings are discussed, they can't hear what's happening, they have no opportunity to ask questions, it's only sort of a select group of people that are sitting up close," she said.
zt3000, you think my response was irrational eh. why?
putting aside a resources driven economy for a moment,
how has this government advanced our country? comment please on defence, foreign policy, education, human rights, indiginous affairs, environment, freedom of speech, honesty, etc.
zt3000, you think my response was irrational eh. why?
putting aside a resources driven economy for a moment, how has this government advanced our country?
comment please on defence, foreign policy, education, human rights, indiginous affairs, environment, freedom of speech, honesty, etc.
i think it with my head, believe it in my heart, and feel it in my cods.
enjoy.
waiting...waiting...waiting...
oh and we may as well throw in the environment.
no, you tell me...anyone.
aside from the economy, which is a thread on its own, how has howards government advanced australia, fair or otherwise. ill give you some topics to help get started.
foreign relations
defence
education
indiginous affairs
freedom of speech
honesty of government
human rights
take your time...think it through. will not accept mere propaganda. try and base answers on fact please.
ps, fyi b. yes i do hate howard, but i detest brendan nelson and tony abbott, while alexander downer is pathetic, not forgetting julie bishop who is incompetent. costello is a good treasurer, and hockey ok. coonan is out of her depth and turnbull is just shallow.
i wish to step back a bit and say to some people that i sort of understand why you might like this government. they've been in power for a decade and the economy has been growing for years. you might have a few cars in the garage, watch telly on a plasma, have a nice home etc and be pretty content with where your at. thats good. youve worked hard, and live in a country that gave you opportunity, an education, no wars, and a safe society. a good mate of mine voted libs last time. hes a builder, getting rich, but thinks its thanks to john. he has never worked while someone other than john is the pm.
leftist rubbish.my response to b.
oz never had a problem recruiting and retaining soldiers. ive been one myself. its only when the adf is asked to go and invade other countries for no moral or legal basis that motivation becomes an issue. our best and most experienced soldiers also leave because of poor renumeration. they slog their guts out for very little, risking their lives, and get paid less than a garbage truck driver- (no disrespect).
we didnt sign kyoto because Howar refused to bow to greenie pressure and sign an agreement that would severely affect our ecomony while the likes of India and China were granted omission because they are "developing nations"nelson in his infinate wisdom has overturned 93 years of tradition and said its ok to join if you are a druggie, asthma sufferer, overweight, or convicted crim. excellent work brendan. we are so far up the backside of bush's america its scary. at least 6 billion for some 'super hornets' that we suddenly need. six billion dollars for planes the air force has said it doesnt want, let alone need. as for 60-100 million in tanks...
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/natint/stories/s994731.htm
we have, or will waste billions that im sure could pay for... quite a few things actually.
national security issues. please. if we werent complicit in the killing of hundreds of thousands of iraqis, we wouldnt need extra safeguards. why would terrorists come down here to attack us if we were saying to bush. 'george, what youre doing is wrong'. has germany been attacked? france? switzerland? australia used to hold a moral high ground in world affairs. we punched way above our weight in both world wars. we taught the yanks how to fight in vietnam (via our experience in ng and borneo). our presence in iraq is token. a political weapon for bush. if we didnt sign kyoto because our emissions dont count for much on a global scale....
like most leftists, your hatred of the US and Bush is clearly evident however i fail to see what any of this has to do with Howards govt. Yeah, the US are our Allies, would your prefer they weren't?75% of americans want rid of bush. the US military want rid of bush. yet we are stuck to him like a leech. we are talking about an american mentality that will stop at nothing to further its position. its the only nation ever to use the bomb on humanity, and that was nothing more than two warning shots across the bows of russia. they allowed the japs to bomb pearl. they were reading their comms and, surprise, sent their carriers far out to sea.
see what the chief of the brit army, other brit generals, US generals, including batiste, clark, oden, zinni, eaton, say about iraq. a criminal act that will haunt us all forever. its not americans that are insane, its the bush/cheney administration. wheres johnny- sticking his head out from georges crack.
you have simply been ranting and raving and criticising whatever the govt. has done. eg: "why didnt they do that earlier", "whats that going to do"...education. do you really think so much cash would have been thrown at universities if labor hadnt laid their cards on the table and received such a welcome response. a decade in power, and 3 months before a potential landslide defeat they spend up. the fund is good. no probs but...
768 million dollars in funding to simplify and boost funding??? how about giving our uni's a few billion to allow them to stop prostituting themselves to o/s students. as a consequence of this, our standards have lowered, essays are marked easy so they pass, so the institution keeps getting paid. lovely.
um, training?843 million dollars to improve the quality of teachers. how exactly do you do that? heres a hundred bucks. you are now a better teacher.
And still the state labor governments squabble and refuse to support the initiative.the environment?- you are kidding, right.
just a quick point, pressure from the opposition and john pulls not one, not two, but ten billion dollars out of his **** overnight, with the system almost beyond repair, without asking treasury, or going through proper channels, (pun not intended). if that is not reactionary i dont know what is. they wouldnt know foresight and planning if it headbutted them. yeah the drought is bad, but as far as im aware, its been around for a loooong time, and it will only get worse.
water tanks and solar panels?? how about a few dams and a nuclear plant? look out for the lefty greenies though..in short, money is thrown around in either catch up politics, or waste, or plugging a leak busted open by own policies. whats the bill for iraq now? 3 billion? 4? how many water tanks or solar panels would that buy? how much dual carriageway would that pay for? brizzy to cairns? melbourne to adalaide?
wtf are you on about?how many millions in subsidies for petrol cars to gas?. why not put the billions we obviously have to fritter on first class high speed rail networks. i wont go on. there are too many examples. too many issues.
please carry on...i dont know what labor will do, but i do know what the liberals have done to my country. i have only touched the tip of the iceberg, for this whole issue is all-encompassing.
if you're still reading this, go and eat something, or you will die.
cheers.
no, you tell me...anyone.
aside from the economy, which is a thread on its own, how has howards government advanced australia, fair or otherwise. ill give you some topics to help get started.
foreign relations
defence
education
indiginous affairs
freedom of speech
honesty of government
human rights
take your time...think it through. will not accept mere propaganda. try and base answers on fact please.
ps, fyi b. yes i do hate howard, but i detest brendan nelson and tony abbott, while alexander downer is pathetic, not forgetting julie bishop who is incompetent. costello is a good treasurer, and hockey ok. coonan is out of her depth and turnbull is just shallow.
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